Seems to be a real charmer: https://twitter.com/Rileyy_69
Highlights include (censorship by me):
[i]@_OllyRiley come on then you c i'll stick a knife down your *in throat now comeback and stop hiding from me[/i]
[i]@RiverCrowson I'd eat you alive you bent c*** don't mention me again okay i don't like you[/i]
Many of you seem to only have half the story. I dont know if they have been removed but the Daley ones where trivial in comparison. It was not a case of "I am gonna kick your head in" several of them were extreme and I think if you read them you would not be making silly comparisons.
Exactly.
I've not read the other stuff he's written other than a brief glance when the story was breaking (and unsurprisingly his account is now locked, just shy of 50k followers - not hard to see his motivation) but I've seen a number of comments from people who've previously attempted to report him for similar behaviour. It's not an isolated occurrence.
EDIT - account now unlocked; that's changed in the last hour.
and unsurprisingly his account is now locked
Not locked at the moment, or at least it's visible.
Edit: cross post with Cougar!
Sending death threats over the internet should rightly be an offence.
We do need to be careful though how we censor online content and transmissions though.
There is a danger any censorship laws that are brought in could be missapproraited, a bit like anti-terror legislation seems to have been.
Jesus. His feed is a car crash of semi-literate abuse.
i hope you get raped by a big black man while walking home in the dark
how do you like that then you * start I'm gonna find out where you live and torture your * house with a lighter
I'm gonna drop kick your pregnant mum then she's gonna lose her baby how do you feel
I've had enough of this. I don't want to give the pubescent idiot any more attention, and for that reason I'm oot.
The police don’t take a one size fits all approach to these sort of reports. They make an assessment of what’s been written, and the context in which it’s written (along with other variables). I would say that what has been alleged is [i]grossly offensive[/i] and could almost amount to a threat to kill, which is a separate offence under The Offences Against the Persons Act. In reality the threat probably falls short of engaging that statute, but it’s definitely a malicious communication.
Turning our attention to ‘arrestable’ - The term ‘arrestable offence’ is no longer used due to amendments made under the Serious Organised Crime & Police Act, which has standardised powers of arrest. Essentially you can be nicked for anything, whether it’s a summary or indictable offence, as long as it passes a necessity test.
I've just read this idiot's twitter feed too.
I think arrest for threatening behaviour is entirely approriate. Perhaps then he can be also given the mental healthcare he cleary needs.
I heard this on the radio this morning and thought "bit odd that, what tweeting about TD's father" but there seems to be more of it than meets the ears..
Make a specticle of the nob I say, may just put a few people off doing the same thing to others.
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You're lucky you're dead asshole!
Open water swimmer Keri-Anne Payne also posted: "Ignore the idiots! Not worth it."Lock her up.
My basement is free 🙂
<looks out of window for approaching police cars>
Firstly having read his twitter account, he definitely sounds like a nasty scrote who thinks sitting behind a keyboard makes him unreachable. Clearly he isn't. Removing this boil on the arse of humanity from the conversation...
You post on a forum or twitter and you have published your views to the world. That carries a lot more 'weight' than a verbal statement (or even a written letter) that is heard but not recorded
This is the big issue. Not so long ago if someone said something defamatory about me on usenet I could sue ISPs for hosting the content, same with hosting copyright material but that's changed because of an acceptance that technology has changed the way things work in some areas. The law is sticking to partially outdated models that don't take into account the change in media.
People have always behaved in this way but when you did it face to face you either needed to learn to run quickly, be good with your fists or you got filled in. The internet gives the cowards and loudmouths an opportunity to spout off. Police should get involved by all means, but when you look at the case of the airport tweet and these (or even the actual threats over the internet that get carried out), how do you write a law which stops knee jerk reactions but protects people as they should expect to be protected.
I'm just not sure that the answer is that every time someone makes a threat over the internet, arrests are the right thing but likewise, I'm not sure how you identify which are credible threats and which are just a gobshite.
I was told that the [idiot*] troll had not limited his activity to Twitter but had been abusing in parallel on YouTube.
* allegedly
Interesting thoughts, I'd only read the headlines.
Seems to me ASBO type legislation is better to deal with this stuff than ful on criminal. All a bit Big Brother otherwise.
All a bit Big Brother otherwise.
I dunno about that. What he's saying would be pretty repulsive to the vast majority of the population, which the approach to dealing with people like him should reflect. It's a long way from the thought police in my book.
I'm just not sure that the answer is that every time someone makes a threat over the internet, arrests are the right thing but likewise, I'm not sure how you identify which are credible threats and which are just a gobshite.
You apply the "man on the clapham omnibus" test. Clearly, no-one (except the original judge) thought the airport tweet was anything other than a joke.
Interesting that there is more to this than reported on BBC radio this morning. They focused on the unpleasant and undefensible comments re TD's father rather than the rest of it but mentioned that there was a threatening aspect to it all. This now makes sense.
Based on the appalling comments about his Dad - condemnation for sure, but can't see how this is a criminal act. Repulsive behaviour (as this is) does not automatically constitute a criminal act IMO. Equally offensive stuff is posted on here albeit not at so-called national treasures. But threatening is, so if the reports are true I hope that the law will be correctly and forcibly applied.
The guy sounds like a weapons grade pillock and he deserves whatever he gets.
He probably never thought that it would blow up this much but that fact that it has and he's posted photo's of himself as his Twitter profile picture means that more than a few people will recognise him and hopefully a couple will give him a kicking to show him the error of his ways!
Ive seen lots of posts on this and other forums of people being slightly abusive to other members.Dont recall any police action over them 😕
Ive seen lots of posts on this and other forums of people being slightly abusive to other members.Dont recall any police action over them
I don't recall anyone on here repeatedly calling another user the c-bomb and threatening to drown/stab them over the course of several hours over several different avenues (Twitter/Youtube, etc). Also not sure that it would be classed as 'slightly abusive'.
If the cretin had stopped with the initial tweet, distasteful as it was, and his subsequent apology, then it would have been fine. Unfortunately he realised his number of followers had massively gone up and decided to play up further.
Hopefully Tom Daley has enough about him to realise that some palid little oik who spends all his time in front of his PC being horrible to people and looking at porn isn't really worth taking any notice of.
You know the type - has 'karate' on his CV even though the closest he manages is the Bruce Lee poster in his bedsit or, more likely, bedroom in his Mum's house (I know this one was a kid, but there are plenty more who are sad [u]and[/u] old).
If everyone who is a 'victim' remembers that the perpetrator is likely to be a complete non-entity then hopefully they can just ignore them and they'll go away - until they actually end up in a fight and have to run away.
Quite a put-down for the oik in question to be dismissed by the goddess that is Keri-Anne Payne. The only time in his sad little life that he'll have any (even indirect) contact with a real-life attractive woman (without paying for it) and all he gets is ignored. poor little lamb!
There is a gaming forum called 'origin' part of the BF3 game.
the posting on that is troll city and chock full of nasty types threatening everything from stalking you to murder.
Police interest-ZERO
To all those who think this is a "bit Big Brother", where would you draw the line? Child porn OK as long as its not public, snuff footage?? what?
To me it seems wholly appropriate that the law be used in any instance of this nature. The only difference in doing it online than doing it face to face is that online is to vastly broader audience. So what do you reckon the outcome would be had this abuse been published in the Sun? All OK? Accptable? ...... Of course it isn't, and no reason whatsoever why it should be on the internet either.
Edit: Dynati RE : Police interest-ZERO Try making a complaint. See what happens then. I'm guessing the Police don't spend their time looking through literally billions of online sites and posts to find every single crime, but that they will look into it if there is a reason to do so.
They need to have 2 Twitters. One where everyone is nice to each other and all is sunshine and flowers and another one, unmonitored. If you use that other one then you expect to get abusive crap. If you don't want abusive crap, don't use it.
Equally offensive stuff is posted on here albeit not at so-called national treasures.
Is it bobbins...folk are often rude to each other and often because of the views they have and the feeling they "know " each other. I dont think anyone would be offensive to anyone if their father had died and I think the Hive would step in if they did - see Hora on the "rubish" thread for example.
Attacking an internet gobshite for their views on a chat forum is some way away from attacking a sportsman for trying their best and not quite medalling.
Trolling is bullying done from the comfort of a room safe in the knowledge the target wont kick your head in...no one would behave like that in public for fairly obvious reasons and they are not doing it by accident. I think the majority need some sort of help tbh from mental health services.
Then what Mrs toast says - please post up that You tube song again Mrs Toast
If the guy is a complete antisocial *insert derogatory term* and harasses people then he is probably the kind of person who does other things like steal from pensioners and vandalise things so I'm all for making an example of him. Time to get tough on people who spoil life for everyone else.
JY - sorry, but there are cases where certain STW trolls/internet bullies make spiteful, personal comments that include reference to family members and the relationships between them. You really do not need to think that hard or that far back. The only difference is the degree of unpleasantness. But that is by-the-by, as I do not think that is the matter for the police either way. (It is for the mods to deal with it, unless they choose to sanction the behaviour?). But going back to the OP, it is the threatening behaviour rather than the abusive behaviour that marks the point when the law needs to be enforced surely?
Actually "attacking sportsmen for (despite?) trying their best and not quite succeeding/medalling" is extremely common here and elsewhere and again hardly a criminal act. Merely unpleasant behaviour.
Any way, sorry I am veering a little off piste here....
Equally offensive stuff is posted on here
No it's not.
I have seen sportsmen attacked here too, but to be fair, I can't recall anybody's family being brought into it, or it going beyond the pale.
Oh, hang on, there were a few Joey Barton threads where his family connections were brought into it, so maybe you have a point.
I think a key point here is escalation.
If he wasn't arrested and shown the consequences of his behaviour do you think he would have stopped or gained momentum and continued threatening, abusing and bullying people?
It may have been mentioned already, but since the 80s, if this chap did any of this by telephone or letter, he'd also have been arrested for it.
wisepranker - Memberweapons grade pillock
Quote of the day 😀
Junkyard, ask and you shall receive! 😀
Ta I shall bookmark it this time
I thought [url= http://www.vice.com/en_uk/ ]this article on Vice[/url] summed it up in a concise, if somewhat juvenile fashion.
I had a look at this vile little scumbag's Twitter feed last night when this first broke, and I was staggered at the level of personal abuse, profanity, and outright threats of violence and arson against people.
There's no reason I can see why this 'weapon's grade*' little cock-weasel shouldn't be banged up for encitement, perhaps he might find himself on the receiving end of some of the threats he was making to others.
*(thank you for that!)
HA Ha The daily Vile:
http://www.****/news/article-2181851/We-control-Twitter-insist-police-Storm-arrest-17-year-old-offensive-tweets-Tom-Daley.html
[url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-19072301 ]Shot across bows fired[/url]
Personally I think thats a pretty reasonable outcome thus far. I have no idea what else the Plod have found, so not in a position to comment about the ongoing investigation. However re the Daley business I think its totally reasonable to send a message to all that you are using a public medium and that it is subject to the same limits as any other public medium. Good work IMHO
DD there may be some difference in being offensive about someone and being offensive too someone.
For example I have some strong views on Jordan [ the plastic attention whore not the country...I doubt i would describe her as that if we were to meet face to face though or on her twitter feed if she has one.
Still think there is nothing like what has been reported on twitter on here but I suspect it would quote quickly if the mods went on holiday
I agree with most of what Mark said but I'd consider a written letter, specifically death threats, much more intimidating than tweets/forum invective. Might just be the old fashioned subconscious thought that physical letters are more important than electronic communication, but letters seem much more personal IMOYou post on a forum or twitter and you have published your views to the world. That carries a lot more 'weight' than a verbal statement ([b]or even a written letter[/b]) that is heard but not recorded...
and of course it shows the nutter knows where you live 😯
BermBandits bbc article still seems to be going with the "you let your dad down" quotes get you arrested (not that I'd expect them to quote all the vile stuff, but mentioning it was a bit more than the dad stuff might be an idea)
Some south wales footballer has ben suspended by the club he plays for for sending homophobic teweets to Tom Daly today, his excuse was he left his phone unguarded,and somebody else did it.
yeh right i believe that,and i also believe in a fat bloke with a beard wearing a red dressing gown who only works a few days around christmas.
