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or at least have been conned into thinking they are better.
*opens door, throws grenade*
Unix IS better
Unix IS better
For what?
Meh these threads are always the same, my OS and my hardware is betterer than yours. Good luck to ye all! I like windows, I like Os X, I use both everyday, have done for 20 years! 🙂 It's all good.
I think the most interesting question regarding Macs is, how long will the keep making them and how long will they keep developing OS X? iOS and mobile devices profit dwarfs OS X and the desktops/laptop quite considerably and the mac sales are reducing at a fair rate(The general desktop/laptop market is shrinking too). I don't think it's inconceivable they'll just stop making them one day to fully concentrate on the mobile division.
Thoughts?
some stats.
Mac sales Q against Q down 13.8%, Overall PC sales (mac and windows)sales down 5.7%. So mac's are down quite considerably on comparison. And i think apple will probably be ruthless in letting it go at some point, there's only so long they'll let that kinda decline happen. PCs/Windows are a larger market and reducing less quickly, plus the diversity there means they'll be about a lot longer.
Guess there is also the question, will the newer models and future releases bolster these numbers? If not, I don't particularly see a long future for OS X.
https://www.gartner.com/newsroom/id/3474218
I think the most interesting question regarding Macs is, how long will the keep making them and how long will they keep developing OS X?
Interesting question. OSX feels hugely under-developed to me. It doesn't appear much more than a fancy well polished Linux distro.
Apple sell 20million OS X computers a year, I’m sure I’ll be able to pick a couple of the outgoing models second hand as spares should they stop making them. Can’t think why they would though?
-13.9%. you do understand capitalism and the need for growth?
I'm suggesting PCs and Laptops, from all vendors will disappear eventually, I'm suggesting apple will jump first long before the rest.
I think the most interesting question regarding Macs is, how long will the keep making them and how long will they keep developing OS X?
man that would bugger the deposit/residual scene hopefully the VW scene doesn't fall over at the same time
I don't even understand that comment mike! 😆
lol the talk of Macs and VW's having residuals is a good deposit scheme, it only pays off when people are willing to overpay for a name/nrand if the arse falls out of the market (see recession) then the disposable income to buy a mac and a VW goes overnight and the deposit with it.
ahhh, cheers! Was the VW bit that threw me! 😆
OSX feels hugely under-developed to me. It doesn’t appear much more than a fancy well polished Linux distro.
It essentially is, but that's never really been it's raison d'etre.
The whole point of the Apple infrastructure is interoperability. Because Apple controls every aspect of the hardware and software, they're in a pretty unique position to ensure that it all Just Works. Your Apple TV works with your Mac works with your iPhone works with your iPad because they've no concerns about third party shite breaking their ecosystem. This is both their biggest strength and their biggest weakness; if your house is an Apple shop then you'll never go wrong, but you're tied into the Apple way.
The Windows world, the Linux world, the Android world all by contrast are heterogeneous. They all have to cope with all manner of third party shite which might turn up. Again, biggest strength and biggest weakness, you'd got a lot more flexibility and freedom of choice but at the cost that making things work together might be a bit of effort. "IBM clones" are how PCs gained world dominance, but the price paid was high as anyone who remembers the early days of setting IRQ jumpers and ring zero printer drivers will tell you. You're an Android developer you've got to worry about several hundred different devices, you're an iDevice developer you're concerned with about 6.
And as we've said, one is not necessarily better than the other, it's just different. What's right for me might not be right for you (a concept alien to fanboys), but that's ok. Choice is good.
-13.9%. you do understand capitalism and the need for growth?
I’m suggesting PCs and Laptops, from all vendors will disappear eventually, I’m suggesting apple will jump first long before the rest.
I think ill I’ll be dead by then, or global warming, WWIII or something will kill us all off first.
that or mobiles will be so powerful that I can work wirelessly with a large monitor and Wacom tablet and carry on without a laptop.
Your Apple TV works with your Mac works with your iPhone works with your iPad because they’ve no concerns about third party shite breaking their ecosystem. This is both their biggest strength and their biggest weakness; if your house is an Apple shop then you’ll never go wrong, but you’re tied into the Apple way.
Yeah the rest of the world is there, you just missed it, I can bounce my video files from windows to my £200 JVC tv, I can send any tab from a browser to a chromecast, google drive and dropbox mean we can have anything anywhere. While you can fawn over facetime everyone else released a product that worked on every platform. The sandbox is dead, they buy in is overrated, you can get is all from anyone who shares these days.
I think ill I’ll be dead by then, or global warming, WWIII or something will kill us all off first.
that or mobiles will be so powerful that I can work wirelessly with a large monitor and Wacom tablet and carry on without a laptop.
Well that is the question, is the "work" market important to apple long term?
I do get the vision about working differently too, that'll happen, dunno if apple will be interested though. The consumer market is much much larger.
Choice is good.
It is. Apple have occupied a big market niche and done it well, which is fine.
Fanbois on the other hand, they are annoying 🙂
Well that is the question, is the “work” market important to apple long term?
They seem to be giving large discounts to companies to get more Macs in the hands of more people. So perhaps.
why would i need to pay for a mouse and keyboard? arent they just laptops, the same as microsoft, so trackpad built in?
A laptop is designed for convenience. It's not very ergonomic or good for your health if working on one 8 hours a day.
Mouse and keyboard help you maintain a comfortable posture. Personally, I have my Macbook setup as a desktop with external monitors. It's only used as a laptop when I'm out and about.
MrSmith always comes on these threads to justify his Mac.. but most Mac owners are making vanity purchases.. or at least have been conned into thinking they are better.
And i I usually say to buy a PC.
What a lot of people on here seem to forget is that not everyone is an IT tech head or they have no interest in fiddling or trying to save a few £s by spending time doing that fiddling of building a computer.
I could probably save a few £s buying a pc but that would be wiped out by the time spent learning a whole new computer OS and it’s foibles.
That said I have still had to use terminal or delete drivers and go back to an earlier version because something is broken, I lose about a day’s productivity a year due mostly to adobe and their software updates.
Apple are smart because they know that if you buy one product then you are probably going to buy another phone/tablet to go with it and they have that integration thing sorted.
plus they are cool (well the yoot think they are), nobody ever willingly stuck a Dell or Microsoft sticker on anything unless they were a nerd with poor social skills.
The latest MacBook keyboards are mechanically suspect. The 'butterfly' thin ones are susceptible to thinks jamming under the keys and breaking. They are quite lightweight though compared to the last one I had.
The latest MacBook keyboards are mechanically suspect. The ‘butterfly’ thin ones are susceptible to thinks jamming under the keys and breaking. They are quite lightweight though compared to the last one I had.
They will fix it for free if it's broken. If you've already paid for a repair, they will give you your money back.
https://www.apple.com/support/keyboard-service-program-for-macbook-and-macbook-pro/
Personally, with the blurring of tablets and laptops, I'd go for a reconditioned MS Surface now. Nice hardware, well ahead of iPad pro, and smaller footprint than a laptop. As for Windows vs. Mac, I've had better longevity from Windows, but it's moot. W10 is a fine OS.
The latest MacBook keyboards are mechanically suspect
the keyboard on mine was fixed
dont get me wrong they're fantastic for web browsing but when the keyboard breaks they're not even a useful paperweight
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Well it's nice they've acknowledged it, but let's hope they've actually fixed the underlying issue this time.
Unlike with my iBook and Macbook and my Dad's Macbook Pro where the design was fundamentally flawed, they replace the parts a couple of times then end the repair programme and you're left with an iBrick Pro