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Gratuitous picture of my (work) Land Rover off road 😉
Houndkirk above Sheffield a few years ago
That was on road tyres, but tbh, ground clearance aside, most things would have got up there that day, the snow was quite grippy iirc
Heavy snow for us and the OH needed to go to the stables (she does have a proper 4x4 on all-seasons but isn't 100% confident in the snow) so I took her over the hills in my BMW - just an xDrive saloon with winter tyres.
Who needs an SUV.
That was on road tyres, but tbh, ground clearance aside, most things would have got up there that day, the snow was quite grippy iirc
Does the grip come from the tires or the traction control? If you switch off the traction control does it still grip?
I go off road at least once a week down a muddy track, so I could make the case for something like a LR. I currently use a Suzuki Vitara with a fairly basic 4WD system and summer tyres. As above, the biggest requirement for me, and the only reason for getting a LR, would be ground clearance. The track is fairly rutted so very easy to bash the underneath. The actual 4WD bit work fine.
A few years march i use to lift share with a colleague who drove an old style automatic rear wheel drive volvo. Driving home from work we over took a Range Rover on a snow covered dual carriageway. We were both suprised as she’s not a fast driver. As we were passing we noticed that its tyres weren’t cutting through the snow and it was visibly unstable.
Looks like my Disco 4 is going for spares or repairs heaven. It's 13 years old and just as I was thinking how faultless it's been after 2 years, the parking brake seized (a common fault). That was £1300 to fix. Then a month after I got it back the engine seized. The garage are saying any decent engine's he can find are around £5000 and so may not be worth it. He ordered a cheaper one but it seemed to have many more miles than claimed so sent it back.
A shame as it's only done 140000 miles. I think it's something to do with me forgetting to getting it serviced earlier this year. Oops
I'm just glad it didn't happen towing the caravan this summer.
{Landrover hill descent mode enabled} .......oh bugger!
Meanwhile my little plucky French shitbox 'offroader' (big steel baseplates, light guards, +30mm suspension compared to a normal Berlingo) keeps plodding on without ABS or traction control.
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Looks like my Disco 4 is going for spares or repairs heaven. It’s 13 years old and just as I was thinking how faultless it’s been after 2 years, the parking brake seized (a common fault). That was £1300 to fix. Then a month after I got it back the engine seized. The garage are saying any decent engine’s he can find are around £5000 and so may not be worth it. He ordered a cheaper one but it seemed to have many more miles than claimed so sent it back.
A shame as it’s only done 140000 miles. I think it’s something to do with me forgetting to getting it serviced earlier this year. Oops
I’m just glad it didn’t happen towing the caravan this summer.
I've had the EPB fail, didn't cost anything like that though.
Intention is to keep the D4 for many years, so if the inevitable happens and the crank eventually snaps, I think I'll go for a recon engine. On 150k currently
i follow LRTIME - Christian has rebuilt the handbrake mechanism. They've also replaced the snapped cranks in a few SDV6 engines
Does the grip come from the tires or the traction control? If you switch off the traction control does it still grip?
That depends.
The tyres grip until they don't. Then the traction control kicks in
Or you have driving assistance in place to make sure the tyres don't loose grip in the first place
Dunno
First and foremost has to come down to the actual grip of the rubber (contact point) onto the surface though
the snow was quite grippy iirc
there isn’t a lot of snow in that picture
Is everyone on this thread just looking for an argument?
Are you new here?
---insert laughing emoji---
Is everyone on this thread just looking for an argument?
Who said there was a lot of snow
I’m sorry, I just found it amusing that you were saying how amazing the traction control was then posted a picture of a discovery in a dusting of snow.
I’m sorry, I just found it amusing that you were saying how amazing the traction control was then posted a picture of a discovery in a dusting of snow.
Did you actually read the post attached to the picture?
Our cul de sac was like a skating rink, so put it in Grass/Gravel/Snow mode – asked me if I wanted to deploy low traction launch, so I did. Couldn’t get the wheels to spin at all – on Scorpion Zero summer road tyres.
Can i just bring up the fact that getting in a car that weighs eleventy tonnes and driving it around a residential area covered in sheet ice on summer tyres is just spectacularly negligent? A 2WD Nissan Kumquat on all season tyres would at least stop.
”I’ve got incredible 4WD and traction control” doesn’t really work when you need to stop, steer, or both.
Can i just bring up the fact that getting in a car that weighs eleventy tonnes and driving it around a residential area covered in sheet ice on summer tyres is just spectacularly negligent
Ok, I'll stay at home next time it's icy Karen
Jesus wept, there's no wonder all the schools close these days when it's a bit cold
They are all seasons btw, my mistake in the initial post 😉
I’ve got incredible 4WD and traction control” doesn’t really work when you need to stop, steer, or both.
Amazingly, it did all three absolutely fine, hence the rambling about it in the first place...
Looks like my Disco 4 is going for spares or repairs heaven. It’s 13 years old and just as I was thinking how faultless it’s been after 2 years, the parking brake seized (a common fault). That was £1300 to fix. Then a month after I got it back the engine seized. The garage are saying any decent engine’s he can find are around £5000 and so may not be worth it. He ordered a cheaper one but it seemed to have many more miles than claimed so sent it back.
A shame as it’s only done 140000 miles. I think it’s something to do with me forgetting to getting it serviced earlier this year. Oops
I’m just glad it didn’t happen towing the caravan this summer.
My sister had the engine in her 2005 Disco fail. It was about £5000 for that and a £1000 or so of other fixes and ancillaries while it was out and things were easy to get at.
Compared to the lottery of spending the same budget on a new car it was worth doing to her mind. Different if you've got the budget to go newer / lower mileage.
Had to pop out yesterday in the snow/ice to get my elderly in-laws food. Carer was stuck and couldn’t get to them.
My old Mazda 6 with no name very worn(but legal tyres) got me there and back minimal issues. Seen lots of folks stranded/spinning wheels wildly !!
4x4 Awd etc aren’t required if you can actually drive !!
Maybe not everyone is blessed with such driving prowess as you have been bestowed with??
Had to call over to Dronfield Woodhouse to see the FiL this morning. Roads flooded with cars turning back at Rowsley. Fiesta with presumably a hydrolocked engine stranded at Baslow.
No problem in the Disco 😉
For proper deep water it's got a wade setting - raises the suspension to it's highest setting and the side cameras monitor the depth
Ok, I’ll stay at home next time it’s icy Karen. Amazingly, it did all three absolutely fine, hence the rambling about it in the first place…
Exactly. If you absolutely need to be driving around in wintry conditions then you need winter tyres or you stay at home. Or walk.
Though perhaps you should consult for our friends in Scandinavia and explain to them that they’ve got it all wrong, and that instead of mandating winter tyres they should have insisted everyone bought a Land Rover Discovery?
But he isn't saying that is he!
We could al be mincing about on Raleigh Choppers at weekends but most of us choose not to. I could be driving a Mazda 6 with part worn ditch finders but I choose not to.
For #%%£ sake just buy which ever nasty 4x4 you want. We get the op has lots of money and very entitled.
Though perhaps you should consult for our friends in Scandinavia and explain to them that they’ve got it all wrong, and that instead of mandating winter tyres they should have insisted everyone bought a Land Rover Discovery?
If you could point out where I'm suggesting people shouldn't buy winter tyres and get a Discovery instead....
Albeit for our 'nothing like Scandinavian winter' they could be considered overkill when All Seasons are pretty much adequate.
At the end of the day, if you manage to get about in a safe manner with no hair raising moments, surely whatever car or tyres you are using is doing a good enough job for the conditions. I happen to like having a Discovery, so I'm extolling it's virtues on a thread - about Land Rovers
I see plenty of farmers towing cattle trailers with them on their way to market every Monday morning.
Quite popular with livestock farmers round my way too.
Did you actually read the post attached to the picture?
I did. It still makes me chuckle. No offence intended. I’m pleased that your car doesn’t give you any trouble. A vehicle that can cope in bad conditions is very useful. We get ice rain where I live, though not much snow, it makes an absolute mess of the roads. It makes me pleased that I have studded tyres. They are overkill for the rest of the winter.
I did. It still makes me chuckle. No offence intended. I’m pleased that your car doesn’t give you any trouble. A vehicle that can cope in bad conditions is very useful. We get ice rain where I live, though not much snow, it makes an absolute mess of the roads. It makes me pleased that I have studded tyres. They are overkill for the rest of the winter.
Fair play - the pic was in no way intended to show off it's off road capabilities, was just a pic of one of my LR's being used, albeit not challenged 😉
In other news, try this with your Mazda 6 on barely legal tyres 😉
Non facebooky type peeps probably won't be able to see it
Trouble with this weather is, no matter how capable your car is, how good your tyres are , how god level your driving skills are……. Unfortunately, you are sharing the road with some absolute whoppers who really should have stayed in bed as they have no place on the road in these conditions 😉
Unfortunately, you are sharing the road with some absolute whoppers who really should have stayed in bed as they have no place on the road in these conditions ?
100%
Baslow Hill towards Owler Bar today was literally a river running down the main road. People were hitting the standing/flowing water at normal driving speeds. Absolute melts