[Closed] Lance, latest have we done it yet.

No, it's idiots getting into the press in an election year. A judge ruled the USADA as constitutional so that's that argument thrown out. They might be his friends too of course.

that is some local councillors[seantors] in California who have done that not the actual senate

On balance, the court finds the USADA arbitration rules, which largely follow those of the American Arbitration Association, are sufficiently robust to satisfy the requirements of due process," Sparks wrote. "This court declines to assume either the pool of potential arbitrators, or the ultimate arbitral panel itself, will be unwilling or unable to render a conscientious decision based on the evidence before it. Further, Armstrong has ample appellate avenues open to him."

He cited a 2001 decision by the 7th Circuit in Slaney vs. the International Amateur Athletic Association, an attempt by runner Mary Decker Slaney to overturn an arbitration panel's decision that she committed a doping offence.

"Federal courts should not interfere with an amateur sports organization's disciplinary procedures unless the organization shows wanton disregard for its rules," Sparks said. "To hold otherwise would be to turn federal judges into referees for a game in which they have no place, and about which they know little."

Ta.

Atlaz- LA is by far the biggest firework in the display, but the conditions must have been right for him to feel confident to do what he did-- sure he got bolder and eventually he was king of the peloton or rather Dictator, i suppose he normalised the business, and justified it accordingly, in his world its dog eateth dog, its the republican way godammit.....

Ultimately this is great for cycling and hopefully for other sports that are willing to come clean.. which inevitably they will..

in the meantime a lot of humble pie needs eating .......by all those sycophants of the system ....

I'd urge everybody reading this thread to read the Vaughters comments on the cyclingnews forum linked on a previous page-very interesting stuff.

Vaughters is now able to be honest and open with his opinions, refreshing, as he says though its going to take a year or three to clear the air of the stench, and thats just the riders, UCI ????

He was fairly candid about the fact that the only reason there isn't mass doping at the moment is because the risk/reward balance suggests it isn't currently worth it.

And that as soon as the balance swings the other way, the peleton will mostly be back on it (and steamrollering the remaining clean riders).

in the meantime a lot of humble pie needs eating .......by all those sycophants of the system

I can think of a few 'enablers' who will be non-repentant

Really?

Hmm

Interestin

Hmm

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Will the real 1000 please stand up.

1000!

What?

Edit - I see. Lame.

Sad Sack

I see Bitter is not just a drink.

You're right, it's a car manufacturer too.

Another round of bitter?

SO you posted repetitively to get 1000 then called others bitter 😕

Billions of years of evolution to get to this...clearly there is no plan or designer. If there is they are face palming right now.

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SO you posted repetitively to get 1000 then called others bitter

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well spotted - I missed that

Hows that bitter?

Stop frothing.

Come on !. You can't let THIS thread end like, errr, this. How about re-posting the link to the Hamilton article. No way I'm gonna go back and trawl 28 pages for that.

And perhaps someone can post an efficient, possibly amusing precis of this mutha of a thread.
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Summary:
Yes he did
No he didn't
You're stoopid
You are
YOU are
[b]YOU[/b] are
(rpt)
The facts as I see 'em:
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Was it the drugs, or stopping them that did this to hamilton - or is he just trying to win lance back despite everything ?

Is Hamilton also sorry he was doping and bullied into it by the bigger boys. Or is he just saying it to sell a few books?

I think the first one because we all know repentant dopers are fine by us. So long as they say sorry Jesus as well.

Ok any updates? (from official sources) not homebrew websites.

Can anyone explain why this glitchety thing happens. Thought we had uninteruptable hamsters now.

scaredypants - you make a good point. Maybe Hamilton is Crow just with his pen!$ tucked between his legs?

or is he just trying to win lance back despite everything ?

Solo - Member
Can anyone explain why this glitchety thing happens

I reckon it's where posts have been deleted and the number of posts against the number of posts per page doesn't work and they get lost for a bit.

hora - Member
Ok any updates? (from official sources) not homebrew websites.

Yep -- he's still refusing to fess up for now, but when a big exclusive is signed he will spill the beans.........

[i]Tour de France Performance: Of the 70 available spots for the top 10 finishers for the seven years Lance Armstrong won the Tour de France, there were only 37 unique individuals. Half of them – 17 of the 36 (excluding Lance Armstrong) were either convicted or implicated for doping.

Of the 21 available podium spots, there were only 9 unique riders and all but one (3rd Fernando Escartin 1999) has been convicted or implicated for doping.

Yes, you read that correctly, with the exception of the first year that Lance Armstrong won the Tour de France, every single 2nd or 3rd place finisher, i.e. the greatest competition, has been either convicted or implicated for doping.

Lance Armstrong took the yellow jersey from an additional 4 riders who were also either implicated or convicted for doping. In other words, he beat 21 known dopers while working with 8 other known dopers over the course of 7 years, held the yellow jersey for 81 of a possible 147 days, and “never tested positive.”[/i]

[url= http://150wattsofawesome.blogspot.co.uk/2012/09/lance-armstrong-aftermath.html ]150 Watts of Awesome[/url]

we all know repentant dopers are fine by us

Ok any updates? (from official sources) not homebrew websites.

Summary:
LA did it some wont accept it and want some more proof [ which i think means a confession from LA]
No one thinks this will ever happen

I'm hopeful that'll he will confess at some point, I suspect that it will be to a publisher when the money is running out.

[i]No one thinks this will ever happen [/i]

Thats me. His name and place in history is assured now, for both [i]winning[/i] and for not fessing up.

EDIT: From LA's PoV, whats not to like ?, thats officially a win-win situation as he probably sees it.

Thats me

me too

Whats not to like

I guess pretty much everything. Which in turn makes me like him because he is so unlikable.

philw - I've read that blog. The writer has some very odd ideas. Starting with her blind LOVE for Frank Schleck (hates Lance but Frank could NOT have doped and people who say he did hate cycling) but not least because Lance Armstrong offered to talk to her over coffee about the "allegations" and she turned it down which seems surprising for someone who writes about Lance constantly. The article about the hypocrisy of cycling fans is a particular low point and her recent post seems to me to be just a ripped off set of info which stops right when Frank Schleck enters the TdF 😉

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People love to hate him.

They hate him because he is a bell end.

I like him because the people who hate him are almost all old fan boys.

Plus it helps to keep this thread going.

you do realise in another 900 or so posts there will be some frantic activity

Oh, and for the record, not that anyone cares. But I'm not a hater or a fan-boy. Actually I'm quite ambivalent towards LA.

I think I know how he squares his circle, and I'm not in a position to judge any further than to feel for any clean, Pro, who has lost to a [i]user[/i].

The Bassons of this world probably hate LA, with good reason, denies them what is rightfully theirs

Solo speaks sense. It is refressing