doping is like speeding....its against the law, but hey.
Nine hundred
More sh*te hitting the fan according to twitter. Usada have positive samples and the UCI threatening journalists if they say there was a cover up.
More sh*te hitting the fan according to twitter. Usada have positive samples and the UCI threatening journalists if they say there was a cover up.
I have a (largely unused) twitter account - I keep forgetting to look at it.
Can you suggest a few people/orgs I should be following?
Ny velocity, yohan vaughters and velonews
In the current climate TAHSP on Twitter is an interesting read. They have a graphic about those who are tainted by drugs and their finishing position in the Tour.
Edit [url= http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012/08/24/sports/top-finishers-of-the-tour-de-france-tainted-by-doping.html?smid=tw-share ]link to graphic[/url]
[url= http://www.cyclismas.com/2012/08/lance-armstrong-confesses-i-did-it-for-the-alimony/ ]For the first hand revelations click here...[/url]
😉
Double post
If true... ouch!
sorry higgo - hard to read the 'crow' bit with sidebars that read "Hand Bras Should Be The Law" 🙂
glitchty bump
The "interview" with LA in the link I posted above is amusingly satirical...
Cyclismas Let’s delve into that subject. Why did you come back from retirement? Your return is being discussed as your Achilles heel, opening the door for USADA to move against you.Lance Honestly?
Cyclismas That would be nice for a change.
Lance Hang on. (dials cellular phone) Hi Mark? Can I spill the beans on why I came out of retirement? Is there any damage to the titles if I share the truth? Yes. Yes. Yes. No. No. He didn’t ask about that yet. It’s fine? Alright. I’ll go for it. (hangs up phone)
Cyclismas So you can tell us the truth on that one?
Lance Yes. I did it for the alimony.
Cyclismas Sorry? Alimony? Can you elaborate?
Lance Sure what the hell. All my ex-girlfriends receive a monthly payment in exchange for their signing of a non-disclosure agreement for keeping my activities private and quiet. I also make substantial payments to Kik for the kids and her lifestyle, not to mention taking care of my kids with Anna. Plus, I just can’t help but have extra helpings, if you know what I mean. Seriously, the number of blondies in Colorado for the US Pro is off the hook. The boys have done some good scouting for me the past two weeks.
is the interwebz broken?
Another bump
no. but i think Hora's resolve might be.
Some more bits and pieces from Hamilton's book:
http://www.outsideonline.com/outdoor-adventure/media/books/Lance-Armstrong-Case-Closed.html?page=1
Little bit more info on Hamilton's new book:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/cycling/9518947/Lance-Armstrong-book-to-be-amended-for-UK.html
Not sure whether to laugh or cry on this one... 🙄
[url= http://www.salemnews.com/opinion/x1011134793/Column-A-bogus-attack-on-Lance-Armstrong ]vitriolic bile[/url]
Just so we all understand what the USADA’s arbitration process is, it is a prosecutor (Tygart), a lead arbitrator (Tygart) and two (of Tygart’s) employees. If there’s a ruling by this board that gets appealed, then the appeal goes to Tygart. There are no internal or external controls on the USADA.
On Thursday, Aug. 23, Armstrong announced that he wasn’t going to play in Tygart’s sandbox. Tygart, the same day, in an excited, agitated manner, announced that he, personally, was stripping Armstrong of his seven Tour de France titles, his Olympic medal and all financial rewards from his cycling career. However, the International Cycling Union and the Amaury Sport Organization, which is in charge of the Tour de France, have not accepted mini-despot Tygart’s opinion, which is the USADA’s ruling, because they want to see the evidence to back it up. The bylaws of the World Anti-Doping agency says they have to back the USADA, but they have demurred, awaiting the evidence.
Gotta love the measured, objective reporting...
Im quite sure ive never actually read anything with so many inaccurate statements and lies in it before...
Armstrong has seven children,
Even Armstrong's statement said he had 5 children
I am not sure anything in that article was true
Even Armstrong's statement said he had 5 childrenI am not sure anything in that article was true
Maybe he doesn't realise he impregnated Hora with twins?
So - Hamilton's book is out in the US today...
Most of the online coverage goes straight for the "Motoman" EPO drop off courier allegations - ie LA's gardener popped in to the peloton with some EPO when required...
... seems quite a remarkable claim. I wonder who's trawling through their '99 TdF coverage at the mo to see if it is verifiable
Surely Motoman was popping to the team bus, hotel etc when required not into the peleton. The idea being so it wasn't stored on team premises.
Anyone who's ever ridden with me will confirm I have never taken EPO but isn't it taken by injection? I know the peleton was turning a blind eye to these things but I doubt anyone was injecting themselves while riding along.
Surely Motoman was popping to the team bus, hotel etc when required not into the peleton. The idea being so it wasn't stored on team premises.
Makes sense - my mis-read 😳
Post of the thread 😆
Is this Lance thing still on? Thought it would have gone away till next July.
people on drugs just don't know when to stop, they ramble on and on and on and
So - Hamilton's book is out in the US today...
So has anyone actually read it?
I know it's not out in the UK yet but we must have some colonials on here.
So is this the right place to say, " **** me Alberto that was unbelievable".
So basically Lance was using his Lance on hot blondes after riding 160 miles a day. Awesome.
By the way - Alberto is probably doped as well.
Anyone know what Contadors watts/kg were for today's final climb? Would tell us a lot.
You haters make me laugh. You hate because some drug users tell you to.
As much as I dislike Armstrong and am convinced he's guilty, I'm not sure I can believe anything Hamilton would write after his "I have a twin brother inside me" excuses for his blood results.
Never trust a word of a lier and cheat.
Common sense?!
Agreed, Hamilton is not the most reliable witness.
But the 'revelations' in his book (which I haven't read) seem to be consistent with the rest of the jigsaw.
I probably won't be around later when the time comes, so can I be the first to say:
"WunFaaahhzand!"
COME ON STW. MAKE LANCE PROUD !!
[quote=hora ]Never trust a word of a lier and cheat.
Common sense?!
Exactly. So we're full circle as to why you trust the word of a certain Lance Armstrong 😉
Some people are selective about which cheats and liars they believe.
I read a newspaper piece this week that said that Armstrong's fans were going through the [url= http://www.businessballs.com/elisabeth_kubler_ross_five_stages_of_grief.htm#elisabeth_kubler-ross_five_stages_of_grief ]five stages of grief[/url] right now. I don't think Hora has got much beyond the denial phase.
Some people on some of the US message boards are quite clearly into the 'anger' phase now, many of them taking it out on Sheryl Crow who, [i]it is said[/i], gave testimony to the invetsigators because she [u]had[/u] to i.e. would have wound up in court if she'd refused to speak.
The most disturbing thing about this whole farrago is what has Hamilton done to his hair
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mefty, I think that's Cheryl Crow
jfletch - Member
Anyone know what Contadors watts/kg were for today's final climb? Would tell us a lot.
It's well worth reading this thread at cyclingnews:
http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showthread.php?t=18436
(or a summary though it misses some interesting posts, here: http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/vaughters-confirms-past-doping-by-danielson-others-at-garmin )
Vaughters (JV1973) has posted quite a lot to say the least.
This post answers the VAM w/kg question on yesterday's stage:
http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showthread.php?p=1012723#post1012723
Andrew Talansky finished approx 1 minute down on the top guys. This over a 40+ minute climb. Talansky's VAM was sub-1600, or around 5.9 w/kg, this would put the leaders at perhaps 1650 VAM and 6.1 w/kg. This is not exceptional. 6.1 w/kg gets you around 15th place in 2001 Tour de France.
though keep reading and there are some quite funny comments about Heras and Vino ref the 15th place in 2001 🙂
That thread is very strange. I am quite amazed that JV bothers to go to CyclingNews at all but given how derisive they are towards him, doubly so.
Me too but it's interesting to say the least. He is quite engaging with normal fans though - I've had a couple of twitter discussions on pro cycling with him. I guess that's the power of social media/the internet - the ability to go straight to the source (if they choose to play ball)
As an aside, a website I found on that thread (or maybe another) is pretty good:
[url= http://www.dopeology.org/ ]www.dopeology.org[/url]
Never trust a word of a lier and cheat.Common sense?!
The problem here is your assumption [leap of faith] that everyone else but LA is lying, you are in complete denial.
You really have your head in the clouds regarding this and your man crush seems to have clouded your vision /powers of reasoning.
Nothing will convince you beyond an LA admission and that is highly unlikely as even when convicted he wont admit it ...bit like Tyler eh
History repeats itself first as tragedy then as farce.
