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If you go and watch Macclesfield Town, I'd say that's conclusive evidence that you're on drugs.
This is a biking website, so you must ride a bike.
Lance Armstrong rides a bike.
How much more evidennce do you need?
I find it hard to believe that there's no doping in rowing
Me too which is why I said
That's obviously not to say that there aren't rowers who have/are cheating as that's clearly not the case
My point was that it's not prevalent enough to mean the clean athletes are crowded out of the game and based on my own experiences, clean athletes do regularly win.
Do a few pints before the match count as being on drugs?
Is this a bike forum? I have got a bike but it's a proper one that goes off road.
😉
Do a few pints before the match count as being on drugs?
Binge drinking alcholism rife on drug addled bike forum shocker - oh, no sorry, i was just reading Mail Online
I have got a bike but it's a proper one that goes off road.
why is that? eh? because you're too out of it to stay on the road?
the proof gets more conclusive by the post.
OK, you've just been charged with a crime you did not commit because some of the people you hang out with are dodgy characters.
Dr Michael Ashenden who tested samples and found anomalies isn't a 'dodgy charecter'
[url= http://nyvelocity.com/content/interviews/2009/michael-ashenden ]http://nyvelocity.com/content/interviews/2009/michael-ashenden[/url]
On a serious note on Lemond. Its just a very sad state of affairs with this fella. He should be a proud and magnanimous past Tour winner, not surrounded by bickering, swipes, veiled attacks etc. Its not just Lance hes questioned is it?
what's your point? he's against doping, he put his livelihood at stake and made public his child abuse because he belies dopers should be outed.
you have a problem with that?
Ben Kingsley as Pantani. genius.
..made public his child abuse because he belies dopers should be outed.
How are those things connected? Sorry, but i don't see the link
I think one of the differences with rowing is that success does not depend on maintaining a sustained performance over a three week long event
(also there are no hills)
true enough but many believe that all top athletes are doping. That's not true.
How are those things connected? Sorry, but i don't see the link
Landis' team were trying to put Lemond off testifying against him and they were threatening to publicise his abuse as a child which IIRC Lemond had told Landis about when having a heart to heart and trying to get Landis to admit to having cheated.
he put his livelihood at stake and made public his child abuse because he belies dopers should be outed
Quite a diversion and misdirection 'oh lets not go there or question him on doping'...
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...Dr Michael Ashenden who tested samples and found anomalies isn't a 'dodgy character'...
I was reading it avidly until he evaded the point when he was asked if he had analysed the samples - he interpreted them. The sound of axe grinding became apparent.
Rowing is also much more of an amateur sport and although I don't doubt the top names can make a decent living through sponsorship etc. the vast majority will at best be on national sponsored teams. So there's much less incentive to dope and it's much less ingrained into the sport.
Pretty sure there's been cases of beta blocker use in snooker and possibly darts but ofc skill-based sports are much less likely to be dirty.
One thing makes my blood boil more in cycling than LA and that's the UCI. They're either incredibly incompetent or corrupt (or both...). This new certified sticker thing is just ludicrous...
The sound of clutching at straws is becoming apparent to me. I am sat here trying to put my thesis together - am I supposed to reject all data I have not personally compiled?
There were no restricted substances in the early days, hence it was impossible to dope.
That didn't stop them cheating though...
The winner of the first tour, Maurice Garin, was disqualified the following year for catching the train on one stage!
Actually, that should read: "Maurice Garin, was disqualified the following year for [i]allegedly[/i] catching the train on one stage..." as Tour de France officials refused to confirm why he'd been disqualified and the inquiry documents were destroyed during the Second World War.
Actually, that should read: "Maurice Garin, was disqualified the following year for allegedly catching the train on one stage..." as Tour de France officials refused to confirm why he'd been disqualified and the inquiry documents were destroyed during the Second World War.
Must have taken a bit of planning;obvious not National express as he would never got throught to book a place for his bike,and even if he had the guard would have trashed it.
Then there are those whose personal belief is that what LA did was undoable without drugs (which means that these people are probably super athletes themselves to know this)
Or we read about the history of cycling and see that pretty much every man who has dominated the sport doped, legal or not.
How are those things connected? Sorry, but i don't see the link
do some googling. Lemond tried to convince Landis to come clean and suggested that bottling the truth up and maintaining a facade would eat you up inside
[url= http://velonews.competitor.com/2007/05/news/lemond-drops-bombshell-at-landis-hearing_12271 ]http://velonews.competitor.com/2007/05/news/lemond-drops-bombshell-at-landis-hearing_12271[/url]
wow, in return for which landis tried to use it against lemond?<swear filter>me that's .. I'm at a loss for words that won't get me banned
based on my own experiences, clean athletes do regularly win.
I'm pretty sure that the 16 year old ****ers in the four that pwned us at two bloody regattas were clean as a whistle. 😀
Ah, that brings back memories. I'm happy to say that in the past (quite some while ago) that'd have been me as the 16 year old 😉 We were a big bunch of ****ers though...
The whole farce is typical roadie.
At least mtbers take proper drugs.
that'd have been me as the 16 year old
Good to see you're as modest as ever.
We had the last laugh 😛
Well if you can't relive past glories 😉
wow, in return for which landis tried to use it against lemond?<swear filter>me that's .. I'm at a loss for words that won't get me banned
and he still forgave him.
goes to show the integrity of Lemond (imho) and how desperate cheats become when tying to carry on the charade of deceit.
Rowing is also much more of an amateur sport and although I don't doubt the top names can make a decent living through sponsorship etc. the vast majority will at best be on national sponsored teams. So there's much less incentive to dope and it's much less ingrained into the sport.
I would agree with this, as an amateur sport and there fewer gains to be made, I guess it's not worth the investment in performance enhancing drug, though there was a case of doping in a women's Olympic crew (Ukraine I think) and here's a link [url= http://books.google.es/books?id=Hk0EAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA4&lpg=PA4&dq=women+rowing+performance+enhancing+drugs&source=bl&ots=-lSr8N6Od8&sig=AGAP69pz4kbhR7ZNC7e8Ri531vs&hl=en&ei=pQs_TfCQDZXz4gbD9f2lCg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CDIQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=women%20rowing%20performance%20enhancing%20drugs&f=false ]that links[/url] the Chinese women's crew and growth hormones, so it does go on, but not on a large scale.