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IKR? beef-bacon is haram in the eyes of the law! See above pic ^^ for the eyes of the law. See also turkey-bacon. And bac’n-bits.
Now all you have to do is to figure out whether you care or don’t care what the USDA have to say about anything.
But I’m superglad that clear labelling helps people understand that beef-bacon is made from cured and smoked beef rather than pork.
I nearly mistakenly bought dad a bag of ‘chicken crackling’ once. Luckily there was a drawing of a chicken on the front of the bag which gave me pause. Also the word ‘chicken’ before ‘crackling’ helped clue me that something was not quite right. But to be sure, I read the label on the back and it confirmed my suspicions. They were attempting to mislead me.
Sneaky bastards. Tread carefully it’s a minefield out there for the conscientious objector/porkist. Because of Br*xit there will be a lot of sneaky ham?haram? (hamram?) shenanigans coming from foreign meat packers, including (and maybe especially from) Trumpland.
(Puts coconut milk in tea. Spits)
GRARGHH! Is nothing SACRED???
I remember one of the greatest meals I’ve ever had was when I was in China Town (London) for work a long time ago and they had crispy lamb pancakes on the menu. Like duck, but lamb. Oh. My. God. It was unbelievably tasty. Been looking out for it ever since, but never found it. I mean, they had lamb crackling for crying out loud!
I’ve not had it for a while but in my (extensively studied) knowledge of Scottish Chinese takeaways about 1:3 supply crispy lamb...
Its that veggie shock tactic pig slaughtering video. Plus it has a warning on it on you tube for obvious reasons,so I think it shouldn't be played in open forum, when it's already been established some on here are under 18.
Shocking as it is, but actually the guys doing this, look competent to me. They work as quickly as they can and while Mr porkie doesn't like having a rope looped around his snout and dragged out(Choke chains on dogs ???) I doubt they could have easily got the pig out the shed, as it knows whats on the cards.
It was stunned quite effectively(A practiced hand, its a small area to aim for) and bled very quickly after that. Suffering here in my opinion was minimal, and I have done this in Romania, and a cow too. But was the early nineties and we didnt have slaughterhouse facilities. We had a pallet. Well I had a pallet rather 😆 That was a busmans holiday and a half that one.
The cow suffered even less. We shot it.
But to clarify for all -
NOT UK, EUROPE, Or US or ANYWHERE IN THE DEVELOPED WORLD IS THIS HOW BACON PRODUCTION STARTS for the general public. And even the hipster responsibly sourced farms use professional slaughterhouses with vets, welfare officers etc
I mean sure, anyone could post up any video on any subject and claim that is a representation when it isnt. But that isnt obvious to all, and I can quite believe others who arent aware will believe it, then go off and act on those words or implied expectations.
Really mate, I think you should remove or clarify. Lets try to be open and truthful at least.
Any meat can be cured. Beef and pork, these two being the main food animals kept, Pigs root about and look after themselves, cows supply milk.
I mean, they had lamb crackling for crying out loud!
Is not crackling.
It’s marketed as “lamb crackling” to mislead unsuspecting customers. It’s known as “crisped/fried ovine flesh” in the eyes of the law.
Furthermore please consider that any flesh from non-pig animals or is ha(m)ram and should not be advertised, sold or included in recipes in the same way as the One True Meat. It may or may not be your mission to deter or tempt the Faithful but ... words to the wise
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Its that veggie shock tactic pig slaughtering video.
No, it’s not from any animal rights/veggie channel I made sure before posting. It’s representative of the historical beginning of bacon (ie killing a pig)
I also made sure it had the warning on it. Although why under 18s seeing slaughter is a worry I don’t quite get. I was working in a mates dad’s butchers at 16 and killing/butchering wild animals myself some years before that. Animal-farming is not something I’m a fan of these days and I don’t hide that, so let’s let the pig have the last word? We can argue over kill methods in some other thread but as you say - the kill in the video was expertly done.
*doublepost*
... was saying that my (cont’d) parents remember when killing a pig (in England) was done by knife in the backyard. The family pig was at once greatly-respected/ill-regarded as a ‘dirty animal with prized flesh’.
I had a great-aunt and uncle who would keep a ‘family pig‘ in the yard and they would either kill it themselves or have the local butcher round. The ‘value‘ of the animal was at the very least not a shelf/factory commodity like a brick on a conveyor belt.
Here let me try again:
The beginning of bacon is agreed: (sort of!)
(Painting by Pieter Bruegel)
Beef and pork, these two being the main food animals kept,
Chickens are much more important than beef.
<br />Find more statistics at Statista
https://www.statista.com/statistics/237632/production-of-meat-worldwide-since-1990/
please make it stop...
You've all been in lockdown far far too long
please make it stop
You’ve all been in lockdown far far too long
Dude. WTF.
BACON (CANNED – PASTEURIZED): A shelf-stable item, which must have at least 7% brine concentration.
No-one here AFAIK is arguing that bacon is pork (as it was 500 years ago) or that bacon is not pork. Everyone agrees that ‘bacon’ is definitively (and etymologically) made from pig-flesh.
Really? Because you said:
Fruit flesh
Coconut milk
Turkey bacon
Almond milkLanguage is language, hate to burst bubbles!
In response to:
Some rules on food:
1. Bacon is made from dead pigs.
2. Milk comes from animals.
You're inconsistent. If you're trying to pull a Taylforth you're doing a poor job of it.