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Anyone tried these. Spotted in Asda, beechwood smoked and , well looked different 😕 ,and I put them in my basket,but then put them back. Maybe Im not ready for such crazy ideas.
Anyone else come across lamb bacon yet ?. I thought it Halal or Kosher, but theres nothing on the packet to suggest such, so maybe this is a new thing.
I had beef bacon for breakfast while in Kuala Lumpur. That was odd.
I’ve had beef bacon. It was lush. Beef but bacon...what’s not to like?
I enjoy turkey bacon.
I had beef bacon for breakfast while in Kuala Lumpur.
Had similar in Saudi - "Breakfast Slices". Bacon it was not.
Venison beef and turkey in doha all grim.
Sounds like someone in charge of making proper food for vegetarians got confused.
We have bacon Tofu, we have lamb Tofu, we have all kinds of fungus that tastes like a different kind of meat specifically for people who don't want to eat meat.
I know, lets get meat that tastes like a different kind of meat.
Anyone for egg flavoured lettuce?
I know, lets get meat that tastes like a different kind of meat.
it’s not the point of lamb bacon to be a fake bacon- it’s the same cut cured in the same way. The point is that it tastes different.
Iirc that cut in lamb is referred to as the Flaps 🙂 usually quite a cheap cut, almost a waste product because even for lamb It’s very fatty. Lamb Flaps have been blamed for issues of widespread obesity in Polynesia as their diet is largely made up of the cuts of meat neighbouring richer countries don’t want. Donner kebabs are mostly made of flaps too
Okay - I stand corrected. It is not making meat taste like a different meat, it is trying to sell waste product as a meal knowing it causes obesity as witnessed in Polynesia.
I am actually glad you told me that as I was going to try and find some to eat out of curiosity. Now I won't. Good advice received and taken. Cheers
I am actually glad you told me that as I was going to try and find some to eat out of curiosity. Now I won’t.
what you need in that case is turkey bacon. 🙂 which is one meat made to taste like another but with the benefit of being healthier than real bacon
Lamb bacon? Yeah, I'd give that a go, but then I love lamb.
I remember one of the greatest meals I've ever had was when I was in China Town (London) for work a long time ago and they had crispy lamb pancakes on the menu. Like duck, but lamb. Oh. My. God. It was unbelievably tasty. Been looking out for it ever since, but never found it. I mean, they had lamb crackling for crying out loud!
it’s not the point of lamb bacon to be a fake bacon- it’s the same cut cured in the same way
Mutton/lamb flaps (giggity) are ribs/breast. Many different cuts of pig can be bacon.
I had beef bacon for breakfast while in Kuala Lumpur. That was odd.
So did I. It is not bacon. It tastes like fried corned beef.
Some rules on food:
1. Bacon is made from dead pigs.
2. Milk comes from animals.
Went on a wild camp with a vegan once, I felt smug whilst I jokingly renamed their meat substitute ‘FACON’
Ate my words when we ran out of food, it was bit like extremely salty cardboard tho.
We survived.
Sad memories of Mongolian Lamb at Big Wok in Brum and Nottingham - fried crispy chunks of lamb with lush hotspots of fat. Delicious. 🙂
No point naming anything other than pig as bacon - nothing out-bacons bacon.
Flanks of lamb they are called here. And 100% correct in that is a mostly fatty part, little good for anything. Although that said theres an English system of trimming the fat from the meat, as there is a fair bit of meat on it, only theres so much layered fat with it, gleaning what you can from it leaves it only really fit for the mince(Lamb added to beef when minced can add a bit of sweetness).
The English shops then spread a filling and roll it, secured with twine and sliced. A bit fatty I reckon, but it's priced cheap.
I know this as I use to work in a small company boning out lamb fores for Donner kebabs.
Made entirely from lamb, from the fores(shoulders) and the flanks.
The Muslim lads were very careful to remove the skin and any gristle and really insisted you track through it to make it as clean as possible. Flanks are skinned too and the internal cartilage from the end of the ribs get removed, Diaphragm off, they dont like that for some reason, maybe its considered offal so unclean or such. Shoulders are usually quite lean, the fat from the flanks is mixed to help keep it basted while its turning on the spit.
Minced and mixed with secret family spices and every company has their own.
All night, 12h boning out fores and flanks. Enter the chill and be confronted by 500 of the f%ing things 😆 never ending.
@dyna-ti - I think your career dismantling animals has left you with a kind of PTSD.
Some rules on food:
1. Bacon is made from dead pigs.
2. Milk comes from animals.
Fruit flesh
Coconut milk
Turkey bacon
Almond milk
Language is language, hate to burst bubbles!
‘Almond milk‘, for instance, was in most European cookbooks from around 1300 onwards. It’s not such a well-known fact today but us kids born in the 1960s and 1970s were targeted pretty hard by the Milk Marketing Board. This made us pretty defensive of a dairy (and meat)industry monoculture as far as foodstuffs were concerned.
Am just about to tuck into the flesh of a plump chestnut mushroom.
I wonder if there are nut-fundamentalists out there who wish to set ‘rules’ that state:
‘A chestnut comes from a tree. It is not a mushroom. It is not a hair-colour.’!
And how can peas be pudding? Don’t get the pudding-fundies started...
Turkey bacon
Is not bacon, regardless of whether it's delicious or not.
Coconut milk
Is not milk. It is coconut milk.
Almond milk
See above.
Fruit flesh
Nobody gives a rat's arse.
Always guarantee that the BACON-IS-MANLY brigade get all puffy chested, haha!
Nobody gives a rat’s arse.
I see that you don’t! 🤣😂🤣
Similarly, I remember when chocolate was made from cow’s milk. Glasses of it. Because 1970s UK was made from dairy.
Nowadays they talk about all these ‘bean’ chocolates. Soyboyzzzzzzzzzzz. Don’t they know the history of chocolate? If chocolate isn’t made from cows then what is it made from? I’m getting sick of these flora-fascists. What’s right is right!
Hols2, joking apart - can we at least agree the fact that ‘milk’ is a fluid definition and has been for millennia and across cultures? It’s perfectly ok to say ‘cow’s milk, goat’s milk, coconut milk etc...
Fluid definition
Boom chah!
Linguistically speaking, using “milk” to refer to the “the white juice of certain plants” (the second definition of milk in the Oxford American Dictionary) has a history that dates back centuries. The Latin root word of lettuce is lact, as in lactate, for its milky juice, which indicates that even the Romans had a fluid definition for milk.
it is trying to sell waste product as a meal knowing it causes obesity as witnessed in Polynesia.
Yeah, we’d never do anything like that here.
Iirc that cut in lamb is referred to as the Flaps
Okay since nobody else has...
...bacon flaps? Really?
Donner kebabs are mostly made of flaps too
Okay you're on a windup here. Convince me otherwise.
joking apart – can we at least agree
no we cannot!
Is it actually cured or just sliced thin to look like bacon?
If it's the former, no, on so many levels, no. I like bacon and I like lamb but I don't want them to be the same thing. Same reason I don't want beef flavour ice cream.
If it's the latter, then why the hell not? It's no different than lamb sausages or pork burgers.
why the hell not?
Because it's not made from dead pigs!
@Dangourbrain
Found an article on it. Actually called 'Macon', not sure how they got to there but hey ho.
https://www.foodmanufacture.co.uk/Article/2020/05/01/Asda-to-stock-lamb-macon-product
The company says it is aimed at regular shoppers as well as those of Muslim and Jewish faiths.
Now that is quite a feat, to have both halal and kosher in the same product 😆
Cant see that being a problem 😆
Says cured and smoked, and I'm actually wishing i'd kept it now, give a taste test report.
Had non pork bacon in Saudi and it's just revolting, like chewing shoe leather with artificial smoky flavour, although the turkey sausages are worse.
The other hotel just went full random though so served chicken nuggets, curry and spiced noodles for breakfast.
Macon
Mutton rather than lamb at a guess, or "meat"
Lamb chorizo
Mmmmmm
You should try bacon koftas. Delish!
Is it actually cured or just sliced thin to look like bacon?
If it’s the former, no, on so many levels, no. I like bacon and I like lamb but I don’t want them to be the same thing. Same reason I don’t want beef flavour ice cream.
If it’s the latter, then why the hell not? It’s no different than lamb sausages or pork burgers.
I’ve read this about four or five times now, and can’t see at all how it makes any sense! In short, why ‘should’ cured/smoked meat always be pork, yet sausage can be any meat?
Your ‘meat rule’ for bacon vs sausage is either
1. inconsistent (ie different rules for cured meat recipes vs uncured meat recipes) or
2. interchangeable (ie same rule for sausage as for bacon)
You can’t have it both ways.
And you can’t answer ‘because pork is bacon’, because the same claim could be made for sausage. Both sausage recipes and curing recipes have used all types of meat across history and cultures.
Again, you can’t logically have it both ways.
ie ‘beef sausages? I like sausage and I like beef but I don’t want them to be the same thing. Same reason I don’t like pork-flavoured apple pie’
Because it’s not made from dead pigs!
I bet you love a bit of gammon.
Now that is quite a feat, to have both halal and kosher in the same product
*In* the same product?
Good opportunity here to educate yourself re: terefah and haram.
Soylent Green is People
Bacon is Pigs
Facts
You
Is not milk. It is coconut milk.
Me
It’s perfectly ok to say ‘cow’s milk, goat’s milk, coconut milk etc - surely we can agree?
You
no we cannot!
It seems you even disagree where you agree! Anyway, facts aren’t opinions. Goats milk, coconut milk, cow’s milk, almond milk, all terms that have been used for centuries and are still used today. You don’t get to agree with ‘coconut milk’ as a term and yet not also ‘goat milk’. It’s inconsistent.
#meatloafisnotbreadloafisbreadorisbreadmeat
#elkbaconisnotporkbacon
It seems you even disagree where you agree!
Nonsense.
I bet you love a bit of gammon.
Especially if it's made from dead pigs.
I thought it would be right up your street, yeah.
In short, why ‘should’ cured/smoked meat always be pork, yet sausage can be any meat?
It's not that cured meat should be pork, its that bacon flavoured lamb would be awful. See also beef bacon and turkey bacon.
It’s not that cured meat should be pork, its that bacon flavoured lamb would be awful. See also beef bacon and turkey bacon.
So it’s not that people don’t/haven’t/can't cure/smoke/slice other meats, it’s just that you only like the taste of cured/smoked pork because all other meat tastes awful if cured/smoked/sliced?
Gottit. Recommend that you keep the lamb away from salt and smoke. BBQs especially.
See also beef bacon and turkey bacon.
I can’t, apparently it doesn’t exist, and if it does it’s not bacon. It’s magically existent and non-existent all at once 🤣
See also elk bacon, bison bacon, ostrich bacon, venison bacon...(or not, see above)
(All of which you have tried and rejected)
BTW you can make the same ‘argument’ about sausage ‘Only pork is sausage, because who wants sausage-flavoured lamb’
I think what it boils down to is that some people like pork so much that it’s like a religious experience and/or some kind of meat Nationalism.
Some lamb bacon, yesterday:
I was going to post a pic of some ostrich kabanos but a red-faced Greek fellow wrestled my jpg to the ground and torched it before singing ‘ O Kleftis’. He dropped his lamb-bacon sandwich though, so I win 😎
So it’s not that people don’t/haven’t/can’t cure/smoke/slice other meats, it’s just that you only like the taste of cured/smoked pork because all other meat tastes awful if cured/smoked/sliced
No.
It's that making lamb taste [vaguely and not a much] like bacon would be horrid.
Cured things can taste great, regardless of what they are, but you do what you do to suit what you have, not to suit something you don't.
Eg salt beef, salt beef is lovely, it's cured, it even uses some of the same things you would use in curing bacon but what it certainly isn't is beef trying to be bacon.
(your picture looks exactly like lamb breast, I'd have expected that to be chewy as a chewy thing in a sandwich but it does taste lovely, assuming it's this Macon stuff, does it taste like crap bacon or does it taste like a thing in its own right)
Eg salt beef, salt beef is lovely, it’s cured, it even uses some of the same things you would use in curing bacon but what it certainly isn’t is beef trying to be bacon.
Exactly, because it’s salt-beef, not bacon 🤦🏼
Beef bacon is beef bacon. Not *trying* to be bacon made from pork.
Lamb sausage is lamb sausage. Not *trying* to be sausage made from pork.
Etc
Etc
Etc
Your example is as meaningless as this:
Gammon is (boring), it’s cured, it even uses the same things you would use in curing salt beef but what it certainly isn’t is pork trying to be salt-beef.
Chaps, you're shouting at bacon.