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Listening to Biden’s covid briefing this evening was almost soothing, a total breath of fresh air. Quiet, calm, relaxing but getting the point across, polar opposite to trump


 
Posted : 09/11/2020 9:02 pm
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Would be so funny

But not sure why Obama would fancy coming here!

https://twitter.com/Mandoline_Blue/status/1325880826484191233?s=19


 
Posted : 09/11/2020 9:26 pm
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So if Biden gets AOC or Saunders into the White House, he

Fortunately, he's got a ready made excuse - if the GOP hold the senate, they'll block any cabinet or executive nominations they don't like, so the 'socialists' won't get a look in.


 
Posted : 09/11/2020 10:53 pm
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I was amazed chatting to my old boss. She's an extremely intelligent retired engineering leader, Indy based, 60s,  female, a daughter, black son in  and a mixed race grandson.

She voted Trump because she fears Biden's "socialist" policies. The McCarthyism holds bizarrely strong in the US psyche.


 
Posted : 10/11/2020 7:51 am
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Biden is only centrist in US terms. In europe he would be in the right wing parties.

AOC / Saunders are soft left in european terms

The republicans would be right out on the far right - further right than our hard right tory party


 
Posted : 10/11/2020 7:57 am
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Biden is only centrist in US terms.

The core meaning of "centrist" is that it is a relative term. The U.S. never took to socialism like Europe did and Bill Clinton moved the Democratic Party to the center because that's what was needed to make it attractive to voters. In response, the Republican Party has moved from being a moderate right-wing party back in the 1950s to being a white nationalist party now. That's dragged the center of U.S. politics to the right. If Biden was much further to the left, he would not have won the election. He's about as far left as an American Presidential candidate can be right now and be electable. In the future, it's quite likely that younger people will drag things further left, but that's no use in an election held right now.


 
Posted : 10/11/2020 11:12 am
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Hmm, the Obama as british envoy - I can see why someone would, live in central london like a cosseted gentleman... would be funny to watch him run rings around Johnson and his grifters. Depends on whether his family are enthusiastic about it (although they aren't young children any more). Although I'm sceptical that this really is a serious consideration, I'll believe it when I see him walking through Heathrow

I don't know how much further left the US would travel in future generations; the american dream is about making it yourself and even those on the left subscribe that, so the idea that the federal govt provide stuff runs counter to that - and a fair few imigrants want out of the left leaning countries they left (Venezuela, cuba etc), remember the mexican lady that EdBalls interviewed a few yrs back in TrumpLand, she was totally bought into Trump and the wall keeping imigrants out even though she was an imigrant.

Good point Pook about McCarthy, serious issue that no-one seems to be able to really challenge.


 
Posted : 10/11/2020 1:15 pm
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Obama as british envoy

Why would he be interested? A seat on the Supreme Court, sure. An ambassadorship, not likely.


 
Posted : 10/11/2020 1:25 pm
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He better get started on his law degree if he wants a seat on the supreme court.


 
Posted : 10/11/2020 2:40 pm
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What do you mean?

He better get started on his law degree if he wants a seat on the supreme court.

He has a law degree from Harvard, practiced as a civil rights attorney and taught constitutional law.
That's a pretty solid and qualified legal background.


 
Posted : 10/11/2020 2:45 pm
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Is biden real though? His ear lobes don't match, is he a composite from one of those websites? 😁


 
Posted : 11/11/2020 8:47 am
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Fortunately, he’s got a ready made excuse – if the GOP hold the senate, they’ll block any cabinet or executive nominations they don’t like, so the ‘socialists’ won’t get a look in.

If the Dems don't get the senate majority (after the Georgia elections) they're pretty screwed anyway, McConnell won't work with them as he's an odious turd - but also to be fair it's not in their interests as if Biden actually demonstrably improves things during his term then the Republicans are going to struggle to win in 2024. Hopefully he can still get a lot done with executive orders.

As for AOC and Bernie - they do hold quite a bit of power now as the progressives hold more sway in the House, they've been silent recently on issues that divide the Dems in order to give Biden the best chance - that will need to be repaid by Biden. I'd be very surprised if Bernie wasn't in his cabinet (unless there was some behind the scenes dealing for AOC to take a cabinet role instead). Ofc without the Senate what are seen as some of the more socialist policies are unlikely to get anywhere anyway


 
Posted : 11/11/2020 9:25 am
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He better get started on his law degree if he wants a seat on the supreme court.

lol!


 
Posted : 11/11/2020 9:27 am
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