His latest Twitter rant at cyclists
Not sure how to share the direct link, but it's at the top of his feed.
New top gear startin soon then
https://twitter.com/JeremyClarkson/status/421676710107811841/photo/1
He may have a point though.
If the cyclist turns right or forward across the road...... fair enough...
If the cyclist turns left... is it bad road positioning or just marking the space...... saying that its only 10 yards to the junction...
Nothing wrong with thatposition in that instant.
Baggies and what looks like a MTB helmet while riding a road bike?
Got to be someone off here.
Bloke on bike claims center of road as he approaches junction, as driver behind him is busy taking pictures as opposed to driving his car safely
Clarkson = kn@b
Thought you couldn't overtake on zig zags anyway
If you don't like him then don't follow him on ****ter!!
Looking at it again. Did the cyclist stop to let ped cross and not let clarkson past. Ifso I still think its gooddefensive riding. If he just rode a down the street it that position for a long time then maybe clarkson has a point but took his pic too late.
Man in rangerover takes picture of fit cyclists bum while driving, thinking why cant i look like that.
Perfectly ok for the cyuclist to asume that position, following the advice in Raodcraft.
It's absolutely the right place to be. The cyclist is doing nothing wrong in that picture.
That said, clarkson is now saying the cyclist was riding in the middle for ages and hurling abuse when people overtook him.
This isn't a cyclist vs motorist thing.
This is just a London thing isn't?
Hadn't spotted Magnus Backsted (sp) there. Cool!
As above, he goes on to say
Ti be clear, the cyclist I tweeted about earlier rode constantly right in the middle of the lane and hurled abuse at anyone who overtook.
So it would seem, not only did the cyclist have a fat arse, he was a mentalist as well. Definitely someone off here
Impossible to judge then, unless someone can identify the road in question - even where pictured, it's not clear to me the cyclist needs to be in the primary position (unless turning right)
Cyclist looks to be the moron IMO. I used to ride around London a lot and wouldn't dream of riding in the middle of the road ever.
It's nothing to do with cyclist vs car driver but instead more to do with being a considerate road user
They've just stopped at a zebra crossing so by that picture alone, he's in the right place. Even if he's turning left or going straight on, the right thing to do is to discourage drivers who try and get alongside you.
samuri - Member
the right thing to do is to discourage drivers who try and get alongside you.
Where's that in the highway code? Are we to police drivers now?
as driver behind him is busy taking pictures as opposed to driving his car safely
While stationary at a Zebra crossing? Lucky no-one was killed.
Someone just needs to report him to the Police, as he's using a handheld device while driving a vehicle.
And at the point, the cyclist is perfectly within his rights.
b r - Member
And at the point, the cyclist is perfectly within his rights.
He may well be, but the debate is about more than that.
Sorry JC you r * simply wrong
( * vain attempt to pretend I have used twitter)
Must be a pretty unfit cyclist to have someone in a RR keeping up?
As someone who's bikeability level 3 trained I'd say the cyclist is in the correct position, regardless of his intentions at the junction.
From twitter
"Don't know rider. Know pic's in narrow streets off King's Rd, where no room to overtake safely. Rider right. (via @RKWinvisibleman)"
vain attempt to pretend I have used twitter
Dont' even try to pretend if that's the best you can do. I think we're all pretty clear you're beyond stuff like twitter. Have a cocoa instead.
I wouldn't trust a damn thing Clarkson says in relation to cyclists. The cyclist doesn't look to be doing anything wrong in that photo. Clarkson is using his phone.
He may well be, but the debate is about more than that.
Entering into a debate with Clarkson is akin to entering a marrow into your anus; both senseless and painful.
Carry on making car drivers angry, maybe more will jack it in and get a bike instead.
both senseless and painful
Oxymoron of the year?
JEngledow - MemberIf you don't like him then don't follow him on ****ter!!
I'm not anymore.
Not sure on how accurate Clarkson is on this particular cyclist but I do personally hate all the camera wielding cyclists who make a point of shouting at other road users about every mistake they make.
I just think cyclists and other road users can get along nicely if they all drive/ride with the proviso that they let people pass and give each other room to do it.
even though I have the right to take a defensive position on the road and can ride two abreast, I am always conscious of other vehicles who want to get past, and often that is other cyclists, who flash past brushing your shoulder not even muttering a hello or anything.
More importantly, whose that girlie??
Whhhhaaaatttttt?
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I agree with him. And I'm quite happy to let cyclists have both barrels if they are lane hoggers or sanctimonious idiots with a hatred of motorists in general
Yes I guess I am a 'cyclist', but not a selfish one. And incredulous as it may seem, some cyclists drive cars too.
Don't have to ride too defensively as long as I'm always aware what's going on around me.
Cannot stand the whole 2 abreast thing in built up areas, country lanes and dual carriageways maybe, but doing it when the roads are busy is just plain antagonistic.
I just think cyclists and other road users can get along nicely if they all drive/ride with the proviso that they let people pass and give each other room to do it.
Hmm, I doubt it. Have you seen how many absolute ****s drive cars? If you're a cyclist, you should make em wait. Obviously there are plenty of car drivers who don't mind waiting, but when motorists start beeping their horns, I'm not gonna pull over to let them past.
Taken from another thread
Police officers sealed off the road for a number of hours while collision investigators worked on the scene.
One officer who was patrolling the road closure said police had received verbal abuse from drivers after closing the road.Writing on social media site, Twitter, they also spoke of the poor standard of driving on the road, saying: “Currently staffing road closure on the A68 and the standard of some people's driving is appalling - already witnessed three near misses.”
That's after a cyclist had been knocked down and killed.
The sooner motorists realize they're the second class road users the better
[i]Where's that in the highway code? Are we to police drivers now? [/i]
It's in the bikeability training which is issued by the government. This is their recommendation.
Personally I do it because it feels a lot safer. If traffic is coming to a stop I'll always move out and hold the lane. Once things get moving again and it's safe, I'll move back in and let people pass. Never, ever had a problem with anyone when I do this.
Jeremy Clarkson continues to....... annoy the resident Attention Seekers on here. Offended by him? Take no notice then simples 😉
Overtaking? Who would ever overtake there ffs? Builtup area, parked cas, give way junction with bad visibility, oncoming car on the other side... You can't judge the cyclist's riding from the picture as he could be positioning to turn right but you [i]can[/i] say with 100% confidence that anyone wanting to overtake there is a moron.
😉The sooner motorists realize they're the [s]second[/s] lower class road users the better
[i]you should make em wait.[/i]
why? what do you get out of it?, and who cares, the sooner they are on their way, the safer you will be.
Valid point, poorly made.
Poor sod was probably annoyed at being dragged to PJ's.
Jeremy Clarkson continues to....... annoy the resident Attention Seekers on here.
The only attention seeker I've seen here so far is you bn. Poor point, as poorly and unintelligently made as ever. To be fair to you though, you never let us down with your (thankfully, these days) rare postings.
[i]why? what do you get out of it?, and who cares, the sooner they are on their way, the safer you will be. [/i]
Lets say I stop on the left allowing the car to pull alongside. I'm still not clear why the car drivers journey is more important than mine but lets ignore that for the moment. So we're both stopped, the driver is concious (hopefully) that there's a live person next to them. It's now time to go. The driver will do one of two things in my experience. Either floor it (that's safe isn't it?), or in a fit of rage/panic/indecisiveness, squash me against the kerb/railings. With me in front of them, they *have* to wait and therefore don't do anything stupid like kill me. If you're unclear on how dangerous this situation is then might I suggest you read up on the statistics for cyclists killed, London, 2013. You'll find a great many occur at lights as they change to green.
What do I get out of it? I get moving and up to speed, get myself into a safe position of my choosing and have control of my part of the road. Just like the driver does.
Who cares? Hmmm, well everyone really. I certainly don't fancy getting squashed, I'm sure it'll really piss my family off, It'll upset the person whose car I happen to be jammed under and what about all the people stuck in a queue behind my fatal accident?
The sooner they are on their way? You realise there's more than one car on the road don't you? Once the car immediately behind you passes, there's another one right behind it.
The point is that car drivers take ownership of the road when they're driving along. It's a standard part of driving and it's actually safer for drivers to do so. Bus drivers do it, lorry drivers do it, milk float drivers do it. And no-one complains but if a cyclist does it it's a major issue?
Plus presumably this is in London so the cyclist is going to be moving faster than cars on average anyway. It's a waste of time overtaking him because he'll pass you back shortly.
why? what do you get out of it?, and who cares, the sooner they are on their way, the safer you will be.
A smug feeling of superiority.
No but seriously, there are way to many undercover ****s in britain. They all appear nice and friendly, but as soon as they get in a car they turn into a ****ing nightmare. They need a good hiding.
Is it me or is that cyclist stopped ON the zebra crossing?
Either that or he's headed off before the pedestrian left the crossing!
Its the perfect position for that scenario. Who wants to be overtaken by a 4x4 that close to a junction and clearly the cyclist got there first? Unfortunately sometimes you need to do that to stop a driver doing something stupid like say try and overtake by a pedestrian crossing 20 yds from a junction.
I cannot think of any reason to be in the gutter tbh. Even if i was turning left i would not in case the car overtook me and tried to turn left as well. there is no room to execute that move safely that close to the junction
I guess they would pull over when they thought it safe to pass if not they may have a point.
Ti be clear, the cyclist I tweeted about earlier rode constantly right in the middle of the lane and hurled abuse at anyone who overtook.
Did the cyclist also back pedal or just the driver using a phone in a car?
Not that i am accusing the noble clarkson of making something up for effect.
loddrik - MemberI agree with him. And I'm quite happy to let cyclists have both barrels if they are lane hoggers or sanctimonious idiots with a hatred of motorists in general
Yes I guess I am a 'cyclist', but not a selfish one. And incredulous as it may seem, some cyclists drive cars too.
Don't have to ride too defensively as long as I'm always aware what's going on around me.
Cannot stand the whole 2 abreast thing in built up areas, country lanes and dual carriageways maybe, but doing it when the roads are busy is just plain antagonistic.
this +1
samuri - Member
Lets say I stop on the left allowing the car to pull alongside. I'm still not clear why the car drivers journey is more important than mine but lets ignore that for the moment.
Who's saying it is? Why not just accept that you can let him/her go on their way safely and quickly without holding them up?
So we're both stopped, the driver is concious (hopefully) that there's a live person next to them. It's now time to go. The driver will do one of two things in my experience. Either floor it (that's safe isn't it?), or in a fit of rage/panic/indecisiveness, squash me against the kerb/railings
Oh FFS 🙄 - of course they never pull away quite safely, and all zebras/pelicans etc are littered with the dead cyclists that are killed by the hundred every hour.
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I don't understand why when a car driver is stuck behind me for a few seconds it's a bone of contention and when they're stuck behind a bus or a lorry for ages it's not. As I said, it clearly not an issue because I've never had anyone complain about this behaviour. Not once.
Unfortunately, lots of junctions were littered with dead cyclists this year.
