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I actually hope UKIP get some MP's as hopefully it will wake up the current lot to start listening to people and also will wake up all the people who find UKIP abhorrent racists yet can't be arsed to vote.
Maybe this will be a reawakening of an interest in politics in the uk.
Edit - To clarify this is for Chewkw
However by ranting on about everyone being screwed you do not exactly paint yourself in a good light, but if you are happy with that then power to you.
Oh and btw you have two number 4's in your list
grahamt1980 - Member
Edit - To clarify this is for Chewkw
However by ranting on about everyone being screwed you do not exactly paint yourself in a good light, but if you are happy with that then power to you.
C'mon that should be light hearted. You just need to imagine the highly extroverted movie character shouting "You are screwed! Moowwwhhhhaaaa!" 
Oh and btw you have two number 4's in your list
D'Oh! That should be 8 ... now I cannot count. Damn! 🙁
1. They do not like being controlled ZM Eurocrats.
2. They do not like being part of a bureaucratic entity.
3. They want to take charge of their own affairs rather than told by others.
4. They want out etc ...
1) So they got elected to the EU parliament took the expenses but didn't bother to get involved with the decision making.
2) So being part of the UK isn't a bureaucratic entity?
3) Unless we all have our own state somebody is going to be telling you what to do
4) Admirable they want something but the impact of doing that is huge.
Why would a vote for UKIP shake any of the other parties up? If anything it will send UK politics deeper into the public contempt when people realise that the whole party is a sham designed to support one bloke's ego.
mikewsmith - Member
1. They do not like being controlled ZM Eurocrats.
2. They do not like being part of a bureaucratic entity.
3. They want to take charge of their own affairs rather than told by others.
4. They want out etc ...
1) So they got elected to the EU parliament took the expenses but didn't bother to get involved with the decision making.
I think it's more like shouting from the corner but the majority just thought they were bunch of clowns to be honest. They were outnumbered.
2) So being part of the UK isn't a bureaucratic entity?
It is ... but by comparison to the ZM Eurocrats monster you are side dish.
3) Unless we all have our own state somebody is going to be telling you what to do
We cannot even make our own society a better place to live and yet we decided we should add to the complication by having the ZM Eurocrats? That is unbelievable. I know the whole EU thing started with good intention but as it evolved it has turn into a big monster.
4) Admirable they want something but the impact of doing that is huge.
There is no magic bullet and I don't think they can change that much that soon. Perhaps see it this way as the beginning of British political change. Hopefully for good ...
D'Oh! That should be 8 ... now I cannot count. Damn!
You should vote UKIP. Have you seen their spending plan? 😉
Well, go for the guys with the track record of not playing because they don't like it.
The only way to change things is to be involved not to just complain (and take a massive pay packet)
Why would a vote for UKIP shake any of the other parties up?
Have to agree he is a right wing privately educated millionaire broker leading a party funded by millionairres.....hardly a radical departure for British politics
I am a minor bureaucrat here doing a job of minor bureaucrat like so many so how educated do you need to be to do that job?
Not very, obviously.
EDIT As a matter of interest, as you seem to like using the term zombie maggot to describe bureaucrats, are you referring to yourself as a zombie maggot, and from that can I infer that that's what you think of UKIP voters?
the immigration issue has now evolved into equating UKIP with racism because the main parties, realising that they missed the bandwagon of riding the public adulation of focusing on the issue of immigration, decided that the best course of action to put them (UKIP) in their place by portraying them as racist.
... is completely incorrect. I know that doesn't make it unique amongst everything said, but still.
They are 'portrayed' as being racist because their members have exhibited racist behaviour and used racist language and rhetoric. Farage can claim that the party isn't racist but ultimately they must be judged by their actions, or lack thereof in addressing the racist core of their members and supporters.
BigButSlimmerBloke - Member
I am a minor bureaucrat here doing a job of minor bureaucrat like so many so how educated do you need to be to do that job?
Not very, obviously.
EDIT As a matter of interest, as you seem to like using the term zombie maggot to describe bureaucrats, are you referring to yourself as a zombie maggot, and from that can I infer that that's what you think of UKIP voters?
You Don't need much education to do the job to be honest as they are all pre-programmed right down to the way you express yourself. You cannot say something beyond the parameter put it this way. I found out that when I questioned something the standard response would be "computer says no". The persons (larger ZMs) then without listening to what I said read me the "riot act" ... I mean they simply quote the rules. Which implied that I either I fit in or I get out. I want to get out but who are going to feed me that is the question?
Yes, I am fair person so yes I am a minor (low pay grade hence minor) Zombie Maggot since my work involves me saying "computer says no" to other unfortunate beings. 😮
As for other UKIP supporters I don't know. I am happy to be labeled as ZM because of the job that I have and the way I see it impact on others yet I cannot do anything to ease their "pain". I have larger ZM breathing down my neck and put me in my place. These are really nasty ZMs and you certainly do not want to deal with them if you want to maintain your health. Also where I work I think I am the only one so far that intend (or voted for local council recently) to vote UKIP.
If you intend to speak/challenge the ZMs my advice is to have all the "black and white" print out clearly (I try to avoid those paper works but usually end up the one facing the music) ... then you argue about the definition of all terms which usually end up with ZMs interpreting them to their liking by employing power and authority. If you are up to it then be prepared for lengthy "argument" ... The possibility of you winning can be very slim. 😀
buck53 - Member
the immigration issue has now evolved into equating UKIP with racism because the main parties, realising that they missed the bandwagon of riding the public adulation of focusing on the issue of immigration, decided that the best course of action to put them (UKIP) in their place by portraying them as racist.... is completely incorrect. I know that doesn't make it unique amongst everything said, but still.
They are 'portrayed' as being racist because their members have exhibited racist behaviour and used racist language and rhetoric. Farage can claim that the party isn't racist but ultimately they must be judged by their actions, or lack thereof in addressing the racist core of their members and supporters.
There is no way you can control or be responsible for those who intend to vote for you. That is practically impossible. 😯
members
Members, not supporters. If you don't like a member you can kick him out. If you don't, it suggests you agree with him.
DrJ - MembermembersMembers, not supporters. If you don't like a member you can kick him out. If you don't, it suggests you agree with him.
I doubt they can really control them too. Yes, they can kick them out but nothing beyond that if they still behave as they are and still intend to support the party.
Yes, I am fair person so yes I am a minor (low pay grade hence minor) Zombie Maggot since my work involves me saying "computer says no" to other unfortunate beings
Thick person in crap job = ukip's target demographic, let's blame someone else for having such a shit existence.
BigButSlimmerBloke - Member
Yes, I am fair person so yes I am a minor (low pay grade hence minor) Zombie Maggot since my work involves me saying "computer says no" to other unfortunate beingsThick person in crap job = ukip's target demographic, let's blame someone else for having such a shit existence.
Do you blame them when the culture of ZM have existed for so long that you either fit in or get out? 🙄
Nothing has changed much for so long therefore when the opportunity is presented to them why not eh? It cannot get any worst even if you try to.
Do you blame them when the culture of ZM have existed for so long that you either fit in or get out?
Maybe you need a change of direction - I hear McDonalds drive throughs are pretty stimulating for the intellectually challenged. Nice uniform too, might help your self image a bit.
BigButSlimmerBloke - Member
Do you blame them when the culture of ZM have existed for so long that you either fit in or get out?Maybe you need a change of direction - I hear McDonalds drive throughs are pretty stimulating for the intellectually challenged. Nice uniform too, might help your self image a bit.
At least you know you are doing a temporary job (assuming there is no full time unless you are in management) where the tasks are dead simple. No stress just simple manual work.
The problem with large bureaucratic institution is that they are wolves dressing up as sheep.
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The problem with large bureaucratic institution is that they are wolves dressing up as sheep.
So you're a zombie maggot in wolf's clothing dressed as a sheep. Or something. Any chance of a picture?