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A couple of nuclear weapons exploding, even in large cities would be devestating, terrible, horrific - but they most certianly would not result in "all UK people are dead/dying"
He didn't say that, he said 'wiped out the UK'. Two multiple warhead bombs detonated over London and Manchester would not only kill and injure millions, but would displace millions more thanks to the fallout and cause mass riots, panic and chaos. The economic effects would destroy the UK as a nation for a very long time, so the phrase 'wiped out the UK' is not as far fetched as you claim. Or presumably you think we'd just have a vigil and fund-raising pop concert and carry on as before?
If you want to wipe out a country attacking population centres shows a real lack of imagination.
I reckon about a dozen large well placed conventional bombs would go a long way to wiping out the UK.
Half a dozen nukes (probably less) would guarantee it and have the survivors welcoming in the invaders as saviours.
He didn't say that, he said
He bloody did - go back and read it again.
Two multiple warhead bombs
Make your mind up
He bloody did
Couldn't GAS. The fact is that two bombs would be enough to destroy the UK as a functioning nation.
Make your mind up
Pretty much all modern strategic ICBMs are multi-warhead devices. If you're going to be an armchair general then you should follow your advice and do some research before spouting bollox on the internet.
If we're talking ICBM's dropping multiple warheads from MIRV's then it's not 'two bombs' is it? It's six, ten, twenty, or more.
Which is why I said make your mind up
All distracting from how useless Theresa May really is.
You make it so easy for NinFan.
Not much of an election thread this, is it?
Not much of an election thread this, is it?
On the contrary, this silly discussion nicely illustrates the ridiculousness of attacking Corbyn over his stance on using nuclear weapons and using it as a reason to not vote for him. It also highlights that people who use this line of attack and seek to diminish the horror and gravity of nuclear weapons are in no way fit to govern.
Yep, after all, it made absolutely no difference to the electorates opinion of agent boot of the KGB did it?
molgrips - Member
Not much of an election thread this, is it?
Hell of an election though.
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Hell of an election though.
And we'll be doing it all again in six months.
Shall we get back to 20,000 missing policemen, NHS cuts (there not cuts honest) and corrupt election campaigns in 2015?
Voting, the next extreme sport.
Rapha canvassing trousers and three competing rosette sizes?
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igm - Member
Shall we get back to 20,000 missing policemen, NHS cuts (there not cuts honest) and corrupt election campaigns in 2015?
People are finally waking up to the fact that they've been had.
Younger people are registering in unprecedented numbers.
Too little too late, but even if that's all we can take from this unholy mess at least it's a start.
Back to Chatty Death for a mo methinks:
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Or you could of course have a go at trapanning your cranium, scooping out the contents and supplementing the tiny void with fly ridden pigshit
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Shall we get back to 20,000 missing policemen
Lefties in 2010: "waah, waah, evil Tories, we're living in a police state"
Lefties in 2017: "waah, waah, evil Tories, taken away all our police"
DO you never get bored?
Perhaps some new material ?
As soon as the BBC calls the result at 10pm on Thursday June 8th or - waiting until the outcome is absolutely definitive - I hope the mods then close this thread and the Corbyn one.
So many people could then become so much more productive - unless they find another subject over which they can obsess ๐
unless they find another subject over which they can obsess
But there will be the 'we demand the government hold another election' petition, the legal challenge to the outcome of the election, the 'hold another election with Jezza as the only candidate' protest march, the 'I am the __%' badges and T-shirts
The fun will only just be beginning
Agree with your 'but......'
Something will begin but it won't be fun.
[quote=ninfan ]A couple of nuclear weapons exploding, even in large cities would be devestating, terrible, horrific - but they most certianly would not result in "all UK people are dead/dying"
Phew that's OK then - I was worried for a minute that a nuclear attack might be a bit serious. Can I just check, how many million people are likely to be killed by a couple of bombs? Just trying to work out if I should be at all bothered.
[quote=ninfan ]Lefties in 2010: "waah, waah, evil Tories, we're living in a police state"
Lefties in 2017: "waah, waah, evil Tories, taken away all our police"
Lefties (by ninfan's definition) always: wow, I hadn't realised I was a leftie
Ninfan - I didn't really want this election, but it has been a lot of fun really, particularly watching the Zombie Mayggot (sorry Chewkw it's too good not to use) floundering and bumbling.
If her question was who should we have lead the Brexit talks, then her campaign has made it clear - not her, she's useless.
Now would I like another election in another 6 weeks? Oh go on, though if I split my sides laughing at the chocolates teapots the Tories keep sending out, I'm sending you the medical bill (private naturally).
It really has been so much fun.
Edit: I'm a lefty if it helps - but one that will get caught by Labour's tax pledges. So ninfan as a moaner you can assume I lose both was, I'll assume I win both ways.
Chewkw will be along in a minute talking about over acting in his amateur dramatics club.
Are lefties always overreact and over dramatise? Very dramatic the lefties they are. ๐
Does that mean I can start using that term again without million of people complaining to the mods when I use the term? You know perfectly well I loveeeee using that term in various forms.igm - Member
Ninfan - I didn't really want this election, but it has been a lot of fun really, particularly watching the Zombie Mayggot (sorry Chewkw it's too good not to use) floundering and bumbling.
I am contemplating whether to start using it again but ... ๐
If her question was who should we have lead the Brexit talks, then her campaign has made it clear - not her, she's useless
^^^^
Regardless of who wins, this.
[quote=chewkw ]Are lefties always overreact and over dramatise? Very dramatic the lefties they are.
Sorry to point this out chewy, but by ninfan's defnition you're also a leftie.
frankconway - MemberAs soon as the BBC calls the result at 10pm on Thursday June 8th or - waiting until the outcome is absolutely definitive - I hope the mods then close this thread and the Corbyn one.
So many people could then become so much more productive - unless they find another subject over which they can obsess
What would I do at work if these threads were closed?
I suppose there are always cute cat videos to watch.
I am the decider ... ๐aracer - Member
chewkw ยป Are lefties always overreact and over dramatise? Very dramatic the lefties they are.
Sorry to point this out chewy, but by ninfan's defnition you're also a leftie.
Just out of interest, do you suppose we could put the nuclear deterrent out to franchise via competitive tender.
Virgin Bombs, First Nuclear?
[url= https://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/ ]NukeMap[/url]
Tsar Bomba Airburst on london 5,778,950 est. deaths 3,420,670 est. casulties and on Manchester 2,111,550 and 2,123,010
Enough of the bitching. We are all hopefully reasonably intelligent. The most important task we all have ahead of us in the next few days is to carefully consider the aims of the politicl parties and then decide how we are going to vote in order to kick out the tories.
St Albans gave me 6.7 million deaths. Hmm. Lovely. Not.
slowoldman - MemberEnough of the bitching. We are all hopefully reasonably intelligent. The most important task we all have ahead of us in the next few days is to carefully consider the aims of the politicl parties and then decide how we are going to vote in order to kick out the tories.
The right thing to do is to stop the remainders selling and pawning the soul of the future generations of children to the EU bureaucratic system. ๐
'''Tis the Brexies selling out our children dearest Chewkw
Say what you mean...
He did, didn't he?
igm - Member
'''Tis the Brexies selling out our children dearest Chewkw
We save children from the remainders and the EU bureaucratic system enslavement.
Look at the way EU bureaucratic system is enslaving the future of the Greek children now. They (Greeks) cannot even survive and live in the land of their birth but need to disperse and to beg for jobs all over other EU countries ... sad innit.
That EU bureaucratic system is a very sophisticated system of enslavement that systematically stripes away individual rights. The EU bureaucratic system must be smashed to pieces and their leaders put to summer farm work picking strawberries them lazy bunch of no good. ๐
Maybe Greece should leave the EU not us then, oh foolish one.
Actually I think people moving to other places to live and work is great not sad. I did it. And you have claimed in the past you did it - you're not sad about it are you?
That EU bureaucratic system is a very sophisticated system of enslavement that systematically stripes away individual rights.
Yes we don't need the EU for that. The tories are just as capable.
Yes we don't need the EU for that. The tories are just as capable.
The tories are more capable, not just as capable. The current protection individuals have will be stripped away over the years by the tory government once the UK is out.
Taking back control means more than many that voted for it seem to realise....
Love it when right wing Brexiters bring up Greece.
Like they care about the plight of the poor and the dispossessed...
Left wing Brexiters exempted of course, because Greece was and has been treated scandalously
That EU bureaucratic system is a very sophisticated system of enslavement that systematically stripes away individual rights.
Any evidence for that, or just another Brexitist fantasy?
Any evidence for that, or just another Brexitist fantasy?
Of course there's no evidence. The deep government know better than that.
Of course there's no evidence. The deep government know better than that.
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Lefties (by ninfan's definition) always: wow, I hadn't realised I was a leftie
ninfan's a Nazi sympathiser, everyone's a leftie when you're waaaay over there.