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Posted : 28/09/2011 2:59 pm
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But that's what a lot of people want.
i.e. A 10" Android marketplace-ready tablet with a nice multitouch screen and good battery life for around £200.

I read earlier it was likely to be a 7" unit initially


 
Posted : 28/09/2011 3:00 pm
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Mind you, that's the difference between Apple and others. Apple would hold the conference in some futuristic vision of glass and steel with geeky people wearing rimless glasses and polonecks presenting.

Amazon, it appears, do it in a flimsy tent 🙂

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Posted : 28/09/2011 3:02 pm
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yep - I read that too. I'm following the event here:
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2393686,00.asp#fbid=bc_aZ8LtOTd


 
Posted : 28/09/2011 3:03 pm
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That pic posted by deadly darcy is proper LOL worthy.


 
Posted : 28/09/2011 3:05 pm
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It's sounding more and more like "kindle 2" to me


 
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I know - that bloke's fingers are proper FAT! 😀


 
Posted : 28/09/2011 3:06 pm
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Oh FFS, they're talking about their ecosystem now.


 
Posted : 28/09/2011 3:12 pm
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Unfortunately to admit you think this gets you instantly dismissed as a pathetic sucker for marketing. No facts come into it, you're just a fanboi.

+1. Very true.

I'd never used an Apple product until I borrowed an iPhone a couple of times, and TBH it blew me away. Here was something soooooo simple to use with one finger that it made every other piece of electronics I'd ever used seem dumb and clunky. So I bought one. Yes, it's expensive, yes, it's a luxury. But it just works. I don't need to be a geek to use it. I doesn't even need an instruction book to learn how to use it!

But I still have to keep hooking it up to a PC to synch it. And every time I do that I'm at the mercy of Microsofts failings and glitches. I don't know how to fix these, I don't WANT TO KNOW how to fix them. Why should I?? If I bough a car and the engine kept cutting out, or it got slower and slower the more I used it, I'd take it back for a refund.
I just want something that works as it should.
That's why I've spent 7 months saving for an iMac, and very soon I'll be buying one. I don't care about the marketing or the image, (but I do appreciate nicely designed things) or what anyone else thinks. I can't see the point of wasting money on PCs time after time after time any more.

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Posted : 28/09/2011 3:13 pm
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But I still have to keep hooking it up to a PC to synch it.

Not for long. iOS 5 out soon and has iCloud and WiFi Syncing.

http://www.apple.com/ios/ios5/features.html#pcfree


 
Posted : 28/09/2011 3:17 pm
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I've stopped following the amazon thing now.
It's looking like it's still a book reader.


 
Posted : 28/09/2011 3:18 pm
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Hate to break this to you PP, but iTunes sync is just as terrible on Mac OSX and it is on windows 😆

But as Graham says, iOS 5 does away with a lot of sync related issues (although you still need to use it to transfer photos etc, which is a massive pita).


 
Posted : 28/09/2011 3:18 pm
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"Kindle Touch"

Sounds like a disturbing German website :), what is it with these companies?
Apple names theirs after a feminine hygiene product


 
Posted : 28/09/2011 3:19 pm
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Apple were the first to get the right combination of software/hardware/price(ish) to market, much as they did with the iPhone. The groundswell of customer loyalty plays a massive part as well (witness people's 'need' to upgrade to the next new iPhone) but the product still has to be right..

I've got a 'cheap' HP Touchpad - the way those things flew off the shelves proves how big the potential market is if the price is right. The manufacturers just have to work out how to build a decent tablet down to the price (without being loss-making like the HP).

I only bought it to have a tinker and maybe do some Android development on it when the port is available.. I was quite sceptical about how useful it would be but now I've got it I am finding that 90% of the time I'll use it over my laptop at home - it's great for coffee table browsing, chatting, email and iPlayer etc.


 
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PP - you're right about the fanboi accusations but you then rather spoil it by basically doing the same

And every time I do that I'm at the mercy of Microsofts failings and glitches

W7 is plenty reliable and works consistently well. Issues with iTunes (I had them too...) are just that.


 
Posted : 28/09/2011 3:23 pm
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Free worldwide 3g

That's a good benefit


 
Posted : 28/09/2011 3:24 pm
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So what's the Fire going to be?


 
Posted : 28/09/2011 3:28 pm
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and what will the currency conversion be? I'm assuming 1:1


 
Posted : 28/09/2011 3:30 pm
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GOOD prices!


 
Posted : 28/09/2011 3:35 pm
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7" then.. Hmmm... that might do the job - guess it'll be down to price...


 
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Posted : 28/09/2011 3:35 pm
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Be interested to see how clear the text is. One thing that has put me off Kindle in the past is that the text seemed quite blocky (especially compared to the ultra-smooth Retina displays).


 
Posted : 28/09/2011 3:36 pm
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Yeah, it's noticeable but TBH having borrowed a kindle for a day, you forget about it in a couple of minutes - same as if you switch from Retina to 3G/S


 
Posted : 28/09/2011 3:37 pm
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Not for long. iOS 5 out soon and has iCloud and WiFi Syncing.

Yes. But I need to synch to my latop to get OS5 in the first place don't I!??! 😉

Why, oh why, has my phone been synching to my latop for nearly a year faultlessly, then all of a sudden it just stops and locks up every time? Why?
PC. That's why.
Bye Bye PC. Good riddance.


 
Posted : 28/09/2011 3:42 pm
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Absolutely must be the PC, must it PP?


 
Posted : 28/09/2011 3:42 pm
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W7 is plenty reliable and works consistently well

Heard all that guff before.

Win95
WinXP
WinVista

Same old crap.

Bye bye Windoze.

The money is in my account now. I'm just waiting for a new card to come through so I can spend it. Hopefully this weekend. I've waited long enough. 🙂


 
Posted : 28/09/2011 3:43 pm
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Does it have...

...only joking :mrgreen:


 
Posted : 28/09/2011 3:44 pm
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i think a kindle display is way nicer to read on than a tablet, its lower resolution, but the e-ink is way nicer to my eyes. I run on the smallest font size and the only thing i find lacking is browsing lonely planet guidebooks as they're pdf rather than kindle-format


 
Posted : 28/09/2011 3:45 pm
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That's just silly PP - and as I said is just as stupid as the fanboi accusations. 95, XP (to a much lesser extent), Vista were poor. Turns out W7 isn't.


 
Posted : 28/09/2011 3:46 pm
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DD - I believe it will! 🙂


 
Posted : 28/09/2011 3:46 pm
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i think flash renderings going to be in the cloud, rather than on-device. Should make browsing nice and nippy (opera is much quicker on my blackberry than the default browser)


 
Posted : 28/09/2011 3:47 pm
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Absolutely must be the PC, must it PP?

Don't know. I'm no computer tech. Don't care. You can buy the laptop off me if you like, if it's so good, seriously. £1000 worth of 2.5 year old Dell, top of the range at the time. Now it crashes and freezes and I want shot of it. £150 and it's yours.


 
Posted : 28/09/2011 3:48 pm
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Is it W7? ( I should add that since my 2 W7 computers are faultless I don't need another one 🙂 )


 
Posted : 28/09/2011 3:49 pm
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Browser detects most likely pages you'll need in future, requests them in advance.

That'd make interesting reading 🙂


 
Posted : 28/09/2011 3:49 pm
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That's just silly PP

No it's not.

Anybody want my laptop?

Is it W7

Nope. Vista. Utter shit like XP and ME and 95 before it.


 
Posted : 28/09/2011 3:50 pm
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$199 for the Fire - £200 or a bit less?


 
Posted : 28/09/2011 3:51 pm
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It might just change everything.


 
Posted : 28/09/2011 3:52 pm
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DD - I believe it will!
What, heating ??!! 😯


 
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So, it's not W7 and you're saying W7 is crap. OK, well we're clearly not going to have much in the way of a sensible discussion then, are we?

£50 and I'll have it 😉


 
Posted : 28/09/2011 3:53 pm
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PP - what model ? I'm after a new, useless, laptop for my wife


 
Posted : 28/09/2011 3:54 pm
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😀


 
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Ok, in that case, £25 and that's my final offer. I'm after a REALLY useless laptop to use as a media player 😉


 
Posted : 28/09/2011 3:55 pm
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Bah, Okay £17.50

Delivered, mind


 
Posted : 28/09/2011 3:56 pm
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i think flash renderings going to be in the cloud, rather than on-device. Should make browsing nice and nippy

Don't think that would work. Saying you're playing a Flash game in a 640x480 window. If it was "rendered in the cloud" then you'd have to download a 640x480 image 20 times a second. 😯

Cloud rendering only helps for fairly static things like HTML pages.


 
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Anyway, back to the Fire, looks like it has potential. Can't really think how big a 7" screen is (yes, I know...). All the connectivity sounds interesting.


 
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