[Closed] iPad 5

I read somewhere on here that some schools demand the kids have iPads. [b]Unbelievable.[/b]
Surely that can't be legal.

I've highlighted the clue.

It's personal preference they are all great devices but Apple comes with a premium. We're getting our kids a tablet for Xmas each we're thinking of Apple as they will work well with our other products but at a £160 saving each for a Nexus 7 it's very tempting.

You could get them an Asus Memopad [i]each[/i] for £60 less than [i]one[/i] iPad Mini2 🙂

The Memopad is basically a slightly improved 1st gen Nexus7. SD card slot too, so cheap extra storage for films, music, etc.

You could get them an Asus Memopad each for £60 less than one iPad Mini2

Yup that's also very tempting.

@ Drac - have you considered the Tesco/Argos offerings? I'm thinking about that for Jnr, although he wants a robot.

The lack of choice bugs me too. One size, one shape, no choice.

For an indecisive person like me apples eco system that just "does" everything with little fettling and presents me with a single smart looking 7" choice for wifi-ing, an ipad mini is perfect.

Why do people spend time arguing about not buying something they don't need?

All we [i]need[/i] are food, water and shelter.

Why do people spend time asking why... 😉

Drac - Moderator
I read somewhere on here that some schools demand the kids have iPads. Unbelievable.
Surely that can't be legal.
I've highlighted the clue.

Jnr's primary school provide macbooks for the older kids to do homework on and restrixted ipads & ipods for other activities. We thought the sting in the tale was the annual "maintenance charge" they ask for. However, its £35. "shrugs"

miketually - Member
Why do people spend time arguing about not buying something they don't need?
All we need are [s]food[/s]Ocado, [s]Water[/s]Laithwaites and [s]shelter[/s] zoopla.

😉

The secondary our eldest is going to will be leasing iPads to their Y7 and 8 kids starting in September. They're optional though.

Is this homework computer related?
Or can a pen and paper be used?

Jnr's primary school provide macbooks for the older kids to do homework on and restrixted ipads & ipods for other activities. We thought the sting in the tale was the annual "maintenance charge" they ask for. However, its £35. "shrugs"

Seems good and a far step from demanding they have one.

I don't have other iDevices, because I like choice and don't like overpaying for hardware. Until the Retina update, the Nexus2 had a better screen resolution than the iPad mini. The cameras on Android phones are getting better and better, and passing iPhone/Pad. Battery life is on a par with iDevices. I've never used bluetooth for anything, ever. Nexus devices are on a par with iPads in most benchmarks.

OK, so you don't want an Apple device, so why are you posting repeatedly in this thread? You just want to make sure everyone knows how superior your choices are to theirs?

It's like mikewsmith - he's absolutely obsessed with Apple - yet has no interest in buying their products. 😕

OK, so you don't want an Apple device, so why are you posting repeatedly in this thread? You just want to make sure everyone knows how superior your choices are to theirs?

It's a [i]discussion[/i] forum.

The original post ends with

What does everyone else think?

I have answered the question in the OP.

I find brand loyalty a very odd thing. I really like my macbook air, but I have a galaxy note 3 as it suits what I need. I might get a new ipad, I may not. Depends what is best when I go shopping. people who froth either way, you do know what 'marketing' is?

It's a discussion forum.

Yeah of course you're free to talk about whatever you like. It just seems a bit sad that some people feel the need to justify their purchasing decisions by denigrating other peoples'.

Let's face it all of these products are unnecessary luxury items - so boasting about how 'my luxury item is possibly slightly better value than yours' just seems a bit lame.

I've never used bluetooth for anything, ever.

Isn't that because you don't have it? 🙂

I might get the kids an Asus Memopad each now as I'll have changed to get me iPad Air. 😆

@ Drac - have you considered the Tesco/Argos offerings? I'm thinking about that for Jnr, although he wants a robot.

Yeah but there is better Androids devices out there.

@Kryton57 just laughed at your post above about your son wanting a robot. Reassuring to see that some things don't change 🙂

I don't have other iDevices, because I like choice and don't like overpaying for hardware.

Yawn!

Take it you drive a Renault Twizy ? 😀

Until the Retina update, the Nexus2 had a better screen resolution than the iPad mini. The cameras on Android phones are getting better and better, and passing iPhone/Pad. Battery life is on a par with iDevices. I've never used bluetooth for anything, ever. Nexus devices are on a par with iPads in most benchmarks.

Wow, those are some fast moving goalposts right there!

So it's not valid for me to say the iPad Mini has a better screen than the Asus Memopad, because the Nexus2 used to be better than the Mini??

Or say that the Asus Memopad has a crap 1 mega pixel camera because some other Android devices have good cameras??

Or that some other Android devices have a good battery life, so that means the Memopad's 7 hours is "on a par" with the Mini's 10 hours?

Weird.

Following your logic the Renault Twizy is an amazing car because the Renault Formula One car is very fast. 😆

Take it you drive a Renault Twizy

I don't drive at all. The family car had done 103000 miles when we bought it, but it's a Toyota rather than a Renault.

So it's not valid for me to say the iPad Mini has a better screen than the Asus Memopad, because the Nexus2 used to be better than the Mini??

I was talking more generally about Android products.

I'd expect the iPad Mini 2 screen to be better than a £130 tablet, because is costs almost three times as much. In fact, I'd expect it to be almost three times better 🙂

There are no industry-specific apps I need that I can't get on Android and I don't play games.

Otherwise, all the newness in the phone industry is pretty much on a par with 650b. Not really that "new" is it? Just tinkering.

Yeah of course you're free to talk about whatever you like. It just seems a bit sad that some people feel the need to justify their purchasing decisions by denigrating other peoples'.

I'm not denigrating others' purchases, simply offering up alternatives and questioning the value.

Isn't that because you don't have it? (bluetooth)

I've had Bluetooth on every phone and laptop I've owned for as long as I can remember.

Well, don't buy one then?

I haven't. And won't.

At least now you know why they're better you can stop banging on about not wanting one.

I asked why I should get one, as people seem to use them for Candy Crush, Clash of Clans and Facebook, which are all accessible on other, cheaper devices. Given the fawning and clamoring over them, I'd assumed there was something I'd missed. Apparently, there wasn't.

Perhaps now you can stop banging on about me banging on?

I've had Bluetooth on every phone and laptop I've owned for as long as I can remember.

as people seem to use them for Candy Crush, Clash of Clans and Facebook, which are all accessible on other, cheaper devices. Given the fawning and clamoring over them, I'd assumed there was something I'd missed. Apparently, there wasn't.

This is actually a terrible analogy. It is literally the complete opposite. 650b is different but not quantifiably better. The new iPad is not much different but you can quantify - with numbers and everything - exactly how much better it is than the previous version before you decide whether to buy it or not.

You can quantify the benefits of 26/27.5/29 wheels: http://teamdicky.blogspot.co.uk/2013/10/the-great-debate-of-our-times.html

If you want to control a Wahoo Kickr, for example, Apple is your only choice at the moment.

🙂

So if I said that people that own Android stuff can't afford the superior Apple products, and some of them seem to be quite bitter about it - that wouldn't be denigrating their purchasing decisions either? 😉

I asked why I should get one, as people seem to use them for Candy Crush, Clash of Clans and Facebook, which are all accessible on other, cheaper devices. Given the fawning and clamoring over them, I'd assumed there was something I'd missed. Apparently, there wasn't.

No-one is telling you to get one!

stevious - Member
@Kryton57 just laughed at your post above about your son wanting a robot. Reassuring to see that some things don't change

He's been very specific. It needs to be R2D2. AND a life size walking talking robot that can ride next to him on his bike.

Pressures on. 😕

I was talking more generally about Android products.

Ahh sorry, so when you said:

[i]"Why would I pay £230 for an iPad mini, when I can get an Asus Memopad for £130?"[/i]

(which is the question I answered) you [i]actually[/i] meant Android products in general? Fair enough.

In that case, why would I pay [url= http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/reviews/tablets/3366239/asus-transformer-pad-infinity-tf700-review/ ]£400 for an Asus Transformer Pad Infinity[/url], [url= http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/reviews/tablets/3428637/sony-xperia-tablet-z-revie ]£400 for the Sony Xperia Tablet Z[/url] or [url= http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/reviews/tablets/3405749/asus-padfone-2-review/ ]£600 for an Asus Padphone 2[/url], when I can get an iPad mini for £230?

Wow Android stuff is really overpriced eh? 😀

So if I said that people that own Android stuff can't afford the superior Apple products, and some of them seem to be quite bitter about it - that wouldn't be denigrating their purchasing decisions either?

You'd be denigrating the purchaser, rather than their decision.

You can quantify the benefits of 26/27.5/29 wheels:

You seem to be ignorant as regards the meaning of [i]quantify[/i]:

[b]"Bigger is better. When do you hit the point of diminishing returns? Who knows?"[/b]

[b]"The angle of attack is certainly one aspect that concerns me. Since I like to race rigid and love technical races the mostest... this downsize works against me. Enough to notice?"[/b]

[b]"I don't know much about that. I wasn't complaining about traction on my 26" bike. Dunno if that (disputable) three extra centimeters makes a difference. The 27.5 only gives up one centimeter to its big brother. Whatever."[/b]

It really does seem that a large part of the appeal of Android products for some people is that they're not made by Apple - and they can endlessly **** on about how everyone who buys Apple stuff is a mug etc.

I really don't get it. I don't go on about how a new BMW must be rubbish because I drive an 8 year old Berlingo. 😕

I'm sure lots of Android stuff is great - but I'm not interested in it so I don't go on and on about it. 😕

I predict a screen size somewhere in between the current Ipad and the mini.

It really does seem that a large part of the appeal of Android products for some people is that they're not made by Apple - and they can endlessly **** on about how everyone who buys Apple stuff is a mug etc.

Yep! Apple is a big evil corporation that just want your money while they are supporting the little guys, like Google, Sony and Samsung 😆

People who buy Apple must be clueless mugs who know nothing about computers.

Like me, a software engineer with 16 years on the job, specializing in embedded systems. I don't have a clue 😀

Are there any non-Apple tablets that are built as solidly as the iPad? My iPod touch has been going strong with daily use since 2009, the iPad 4 seems as well built, if not better than the touch. Would an Asus lilypad last 4+ years?

In that case, why would I pay £400 for an Asus Transformer Pad Infinity, £400 for the Sony Xperia Tablet Z or £600 for an Asus Padphone 2, when I can get an iPad mini for £230?

For each of those models, you could pretty easily say what you're paying extra for: bigger screen, keyboard, phone.

For each of those models, you could pretty easily say what you're paying extra for: bigger screen, keyboard, phone.

Yes you could. And yet when I did exactly that for the Asus Memopad versus the iPad Mini you dismissed it by pointing to those other models.

If you want to control a Wahoo Kickr, for example, Apple is your only choice at the moment.

miketually » 🙂

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Why do these threads exist, some people care, some people don't some people will, some people won't!

[EDIT] - yep, what Drac said!

You seem to be ignorant as regards the meaning of quantify

I should have warned that that site contains humour. You did see all the numbers though?

Why do these threads exist, some people care, some people don't some people will, some people won't!

And some people care too much about whether people care, and what about 🙂

Going back to my question. Can the homework be done by pen and paper? Or is an iPad needed to carry out this task?

I should have warned that that site contains humour. You did see all the numbers though?

Knowing the difference in the diameter, contact patch, etc, does not tell you how much better the wheels are to ride. Which is the whole point of the 650b debate.

But it gives pointers, surely? Knowing the screen resolution of a tablet doesn't tell you what a screen is like to look at.

There's a pretty big list of other bluetooth smart devices as well. http://www.bluetooth.com/Pages/Bluetooth-Smart-Devices-List.aspx

That sites lists lots of non-iOS devices too.

That sites lists lots of non-iOS devices too.

Dear god man. Nobody claimed Apple had a monopoly on bluetooth did they - just that bluetooth is sometimes useful and that all Apple stuff has it.

Shifting the goalposts again. 🙄