Get two, and call the other one Cockwomble
Guys - how about laying off geetee with the personal attacks? Its getting rather too close to bullying for my liking.
I disagree with him and his views on gender very strongly - but calling him names is not going to help one iota
fortunately most men are able to see thru the bullshit of "mens day"
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Would you [i]really [/i] want to celebrate anything with this lot.....?
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They look like they're on a Fruit of the Loom team building exercise....
I agree with the sentiment though, men risk getting forgotten about, and before we know it, women will be running the world.
I know it's a few years old now, but I think there was alot of truth in this
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I now need to buy a dog just so I can name it '****puffin'.
He said it again, he said it again.
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Good job Drac hasn't seen the thread yet. Quite a few breaches of Da Rules so far.
Binners - do yourself a favour and stay away from threads in which Geetee is the OP or at least write something other than you do. You come across as a complete **** and a particularly nasty arsehole. It's not funny to anyone with a modicum of respect for other folk.
I suppose that all hinges on whether you think an individual, and their opinions, are worthy of any respect.
I’m quite a reasonable person. My derision, contempt and mockery are always well earned
Cheers for the advice though. Always gratefully received
I for one am impressed by the new look bad boy Binners.
I assume it is a result of his diet.
It's unnecessary which you probably already know. If I was in the habit of using the report button I would but it's not my style.
For the record I'm not defending the guy, just noting that you seem to make a beeline for him these days and you don't come off well in those interactions.
Just to be clear...
I got a ban for posting a pic congratulating someone for being a dick (fair enough, against the rules), but the abuse geetee1972 gets from the same few posters over and over is much worse yet seems to be perfectly acceptable to the mods.
I guess there are two lots of rules for this place, depending on whether or not you're part of the right clique.
I’ll take it the benchmark for respecting other posters is calling them a *****?
Duly noted
Has he said anything particularly subjective here? I can't find anything.
The bollocks is, as usual, his attempts to disguise his repulsive and twisted propaganda as some kind of worthy cause or "debate".
He gets exactly the amount of respect he deserves on here and I'll happily continue to point out his BS.
I’ll take it the benchmark for respecting other posters is calling them a *****?Duly noted
See, there you go trying to twist things to suit yourself. Kerley was being deliberately obtuse and trying to twist a point to suit an agenda, it's little wonder Geetee took the bait.
Liking the continual and unchecked use of [i]that[/i] word BTW.
One cannot ,make an appeal for a modicum of repsect nor lecture folk on the rules after having described someone like thatYou come across as a complete **** and a particularly nasty arsehole. It's not funny to anyone with a modicum of respect for other folk.
If you think Binners is OTT , and its not without merit, you cannot be that unpleasant about him or you just look daft. It is like shouting stop ****ing swearing you **** you just did what you object to.
I wrote it's how he's coming across not what he actually is. A small but significant difference.
Did you not notice the bit where i accepted that your argument had a point to it?
PS you are coming across as a total tit* - thank god I did not insult you one bit with that 🙄
* Its not what i think i still think you have a point re Binners but that argument is poor in the extreme as hopefully me doing what you did demonstrated. Dont insult folk whilst moaning about folk insulting folk it just makes you look daft
To be fair, I am a bit of a ****! 😀
Will anyone who challenges you be part of a clique and did you not notice the bit where i accepted that your argument had a point to it?
No, that's just absurd. I frequently disagree with folk on this forum and don't view them as part of a clique or in-crowd.
Anyway, I just edited the clique bit but you already posted.
I was wrong but there is some substance to the whole clique thing that a few folk keep referring to.
Editted out also and yes there is and indeed bullying here
I have to remind myself of kaesae when these threads start but i do find MRA and some of the groups that poster links to as deeply offensive [ and i have taken the piss myself here so I shall also apologise]
Attacking him to this level [ the OP not binners] is not helping IMHO
Heh
I'll just leave the last post as unedited so as not to confuse other folk.
You're cool, Junkyard. I'm not looking for a scrap with anyone...
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Me neither and I agree with your broad point
The bollocks is, as usual, his attempts to disguise his repulsive and twisted propaganda as some kind of worthy cause or "debate"
Quite. Moaning about a bit of swearing is a triviality by comparison.
The bollocks is, as usual, his attempts to disguise his repulsive and twisted propaganda as some kind of worthy cause or "debate".He gets exactly the amount of respect he deserves on here and I'll happily continue to point out his BS.
You gotta play the ball not the man though? He's posted that it's international mens day, nothing wrong with that. He's pointed out that 85% of people who commit suicide are men, that's a stat which is concerning to the point that it's broadly acknowledged to be a problem. And people just make obtuse (and stupid) points about having more female suicides.
I'm not clued up about geetee and his propaganda, but he's not done much wrong on this thread (****puffin notwithstanding)
I'm well impressed with the way that km79 has seen the ban hammer line and sailed so far across it that is over the horizon.
I have to admit, the little video did make me laugh
Just came here to confirm that yes, it's the same forum users all over a "sexism" thread! ?
Yawnsy
I'm well impressed with the way that km79 has seen the ban hammer line and sailed so far across it that is over the horizon.
Is that the horizon on a flat earth or a spherical earth?
You gotta play the ball not the man though
I disagree. This isn't year zero, where we ignore someone's entire posting history.
You're perfectly free to do what you like, but shouting down everything someone says regardless of if it's objectionable or not because you don't like them isn't right IMHO.
Had enough of this thread off to top my coffee up.....
WARNING - really boring post
Junkyard » PS you are coming across as a total tit* - thank god I did not insult you one bit with that* Its not what i think i still think you have a point re Binners but that argument is poor in the extreme as hopefully me doing what you did demonstrated. Dont insult folk whilst moaning about folk insulting folk it just makes you look daft
Don't know how but I missed that.
I don't feel insulted by the first bit TBH, it's just your opinion.
If i'd have written...
[i]Binners - You're a complete **** and a nasty arsehole etc.[/i]
...then I'd have made myself look daft, as you put it. But I didn't. I wrote...
[i]Binners - You come across as a complete **** and a particularly nasty arsehole.[/i]
Very different, as I attempted to explain earlier. I guess if I address you in the same manner as the second example then you'd probably feel insulted. I don't and probably wouldn't unless it came from more than one person (that isn't of the same clique as the original critic, obviously :wink:) but then I'm confident in what I'm trying to express and feel capable of getting across my point without misunderstanding, though I'd be inclined to re-read my post if I thought a lot of folk thought I was being or coming across as a dick or something. If you feel I was trying to insult Binners then that's probably more to do with you than it is me.
No need to labour this point any more than this, just missed the above quoted post and trying to make myself clear and avoid the accusation that I'm a hypocrite. I'm sure I'm quite capable of being that but not in this instance.
You know when you hear those boorish UKIP voting nobheads, sat at the bar in your local start a sentence with “I’m Not a racist, but......”
Well replace the word ‘racist’ with ‘misogynistic and sexist’ ( as well as many others I can think of) and that’s where we are.
So there you go. Defend him if you like. Seems quite the fashion nowadays to flirt with opinions Jim Davidson would be proud of. Welcome back to 1978
If you’ve got an issue with me having an issue with that issue...
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It is an occasion for men to celebrate their achievements and contributions
This sort of thing, right?
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You know when you hear those boorish UKIP voting nobheads, sat at the bar in your local start a sentence with “I’m Not a racist, but......”Well replace the word ‘racist’ with ‘misogynistic and sexist’ ( as well as many others I can think of) and that’s where we are.
So there you go. Defend him if you like. Seems quite the fashion nowadays to flirt with opinions Jim Davidson would be proud of. Welcome back to 1978
[b]If you’ve got an issue with me having an issue with that issue...[/b]
You're not the victim, Binners. No need for more theatrics.
Teasel » I don't feel insulted by the first bit TBH, it's just your opinion.
And just for you Junkyard and to elaborate on the above statement, I know that was an imaginary scenario and you weren't really referring to me as a tit. What I meant was I'd not be offended either way.
I shall be looking for ways to exercise my white male privilege...
Any suggestions or should I just **** off to work as normal
I think this thread really shows that us men are shithot, what's not to celebrate?
Any suggestions or should I just **** off to work as normal
Phone in sick?
You have a strange username, Smell_it. I often see your posts and think smell what, exactly. And invariably, from the warped recesses of my mind comes a voice that says...
[b][i]The glove. Smell the glove.[/i][/b]
The rate posts are being deleted on this thread I reckon my previous 'half way down page 3' post will be on page 1 by lunchtime.
The user can't delete posts can he/she? Isn't it just Mods?
Here is some data to support the need for International Men’s Day, i.e. here is some data of the problems specifically affecting men.
83% of suicides are by men and it is the single biggest cause of death in men under the age of 50. Since 1981, the female rate of suicide has halved where in men it has quadrupled. Whatever it is we have been doing for women, it isn’t working for men. We have been letting men down in this area of mental health.
You can find this data here:
Homelessness is another deeply gendered issue. The percentage of rough sleepers who are male is around 75%. This is based on journalistic research since the ONS doesn’t seem to care enough about the issue of gender to measure it in its data (itself another insight that men’s issues need a voice). Anyone who walks around our city centres with their eyes open can see that this ratio is evidently right.
You can find the data here:
The single most disadvantaged group of individuals in our society and schools right now are working class white boys (the issue of race is important but this is not about race). They perform badly across the board and the school/educational system is fundamentally letting them down. If you think this isn’t something we should be worried about, take a look at how that worked out in the US. If you want a whole generation of embittered, far right, ultra nationalist fascists stomping the streets, carry on ignoring poor white men and see how well it turns out.
Evidence for this issue here:
The prevalence of domestic violence or spousal abuse in men is disregarded at almost every turn. It is ignored at best and ridiculed at worst (and that ridicule is commonly seen on this forum). When you survey couples and ask them to report any instance of domestic abuse over the course of the last 12 months, the positive response rates for men and women are identical (3.4%). The disparity only emerges when you look at historical data over the long term. There are a number of theories as to why this is the case, one of which is that the broad differences in personality profile and type lead men to forget and move on.
Evidence for this is here:
https://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2013/may/07/men-gender-divide-feminism
The criminal justice system is also a deeply gendered institution in the way it treats men and women. It may well be the case that more crime is committed by men than women, but this is no reason why we would then treat men more harshly than women on a like for like basis and yet that is what we do.
Men are twice as likely as women to receive a custodial sentence for their offence, 20% less likely to receive bail and serve more of their sentence than women (by 5%).
The evidence is cited in the same article in The Guardian linked above.
There are many other areas where the male experience is marginalised or deeply negative compared to the female one. For example men are the overwhelming majority of war casualties, men are many more times more likely to be victims of violence or murdered, they are far more likely to made redundant or out of work or if in work, be a casualty of serious work place accidents.
None of this is saying that men are an oppressed minority or deserve ‘victim status’, quite apart from anything else the notion of ‘victim status’ or ‘oppressed minority’, when applied to groups of significant numbers, isn’t something I believe is helpful. So I’m not positing this trying to make out that ‘all men are victims’.
But only a masturbating puffin would come onto a thread like this and ridicule the notion that is no such thing as male issues or problem deserving of a considered and sympathetic response.
The rate posts are being deleted on this thread I reckon my previous 'half way down page 3' post will be on page 1 by lunchtime.
I can't recall the whole the thread but I don't think anything's been deleted but [i]that[/i] word has been mysteriously edited with a five star-out not a four which lead me to think that it had been added to the swear filter but one got through the net so that's not the case.
Sloppy work for missing one, Unseen Mod. 😉
Its not at all its still an insult and still what you think but if you think you rinsut is poite and his is no then that is your choiceBinners - You come across as a complete **** and a particularly nasty arsehole.
Very different,
I dont see how the addition of the phrase "coming across as" makes one a statement and the removal makes it an insult
the other "polite" way is to say some would say that you are a and then say it - bith are just the poster saying what they think and both are insults you cannot say you are coming across as a ****er and then try and say its not an insult - it is. Whether its a politer form of insult is a pointless debate IMHO as who does polite insults?
