normals”?
IKR?
‘Crusties’?
when idiots collide..
Exactly this. Literally.
I don't know what is the most shocking? Woman driving a Range Rover turns out to be an entitled, obnoxious cow or woman intentionally sat in the middle of the road pisses off someone enough for them to give her a shove with their tractor.
As an aside: what glue are they using? Spraymount? Didn't look up to much
They need to up their game a bit if they want to be taken seriously
And after a decade of tory dominated government I don’t think putting trust into the wider electorate to think of the greater good is a particularly good plan, do you?
13.5 million people voted for the tories and 33.9 million didn't. There are more people who didn't vote than voted tory. The 'wider electorate' is quite a lot of people.
But even then what sway do you have focusing a protest on Westminster when the people inside are able to tell themselves they have the mandate of the people.
Most people don't dive a toss about climate change. Probably because they're working every hour of the day to pay for a massive mortgage/rent/Range Rover. Even people that say they care, probably don't really, they'll wash and separate the yoghurt pots but still go on three foreign holidays a year. So really, it's a bit of a niche issue they're blocking the traffic for. Dunno... we're doomed! Well, not us, but our children's children, maybe.
So really, it’s a bit of a niche issue they’re blocking the traffic for.
Surely that's the point!!
I am 100% against anyone sitting in the road.
If their actions affect others livelihood then they get all they deserve as life is already hard as it is.
Can't say i'm overly impressed with Insulate Britain, they've not really shown any regard for the public, their protest has a negative appearance to the public and it'll be hard to do any good from this, all i can see is that when the government change protest laws again, it'll get backing from more people due to the perception of recent protests like this one.
Reality is what they are after is perfectly reasonable, and i doubt many would disagree, but their plan and implementation is poor.
The irony is all the additional congestion caused and associated extra emissions. All smacks of a lot of look at me aren't I important without any realistic hope of changing anything.
In other idiots protesting news anti lockdown protestors surounded Michael Gove today, not quite sure why they were protesting, lockdowns have finished and if Boris brings them back it won't be for lack of trying not to.
I admit to not driving in London very much. Is there often only one route to school/court/hospital?
Did it not occur to you that in somewhere like London, blocking one route with protesters means that every other route nearby is soon blocked by buses and other vehicles trying to find a way around it?
This driver is clearly an idiot and if I could think of exactly what offence she's committed I hope that the Police take her to town for it.
I know this whole thing with the Range Rover is loaded with irony, but is the ironic mothership not that for the government heat pump plan to work, the houses installing them will need to be much better insulated anyway?
The creature (typical Chafford Hundred mum) driving the Range Rover will be the sort of person that is the entitled idiot that resents being held up by a bike and dealing out a punishment pass. Would the people on here that seem to be agreeing with her have the same attitude if she was behind their bike?
I totally get the inconvenience thing, and I would probably get the hump if I was held up when I had somewhere to be, but I feel they are part of a general movement (along with XR) that is only going to gather pace. I have changed my attitude to these issues during the last 10 years or so.
The problem with protesting near Parliament is that the powers that be (of all colours) will tie up any protest with injunctions, this is why those protesters keep changing the site of their protests as they constantly have to keep ahead of the courts.
The XR protest in London was great for cycling, I moved around so much quicker than normal, covid helped that last year and the first part of this year, but now cycle commuting in London is back to its normal polluted congested dangerous self.
Insulate Britain have lost the plot. If the UK Government gives into their demands, then the next protest group will repeat the tactics and on and on. The tactic worked well at raising their profile, but continuing with it will not change anything. If anything it will just alienate more people and encourage the Government to change the laws.
Insulate Britain are also relying on the law to ensure that they are 'safe' while protesting - by stopping traffic or by stopping frustrated motorists from moving them off the road (just a thought, but if the protestors had glue on them, then glue them to the sides of the road).
The driver is a WGBE for sure. The protestors are annoying just because they’re a bit wishy washy. I agree with their ideals but the chosen method is a bit shit. Go protest on new build estates or a drafty church or something.
I would not care if I was held up, it's not like school, work, family would not understand why I was delayed. I can't imagine being worked up enough to drag someone off the road. All those people will die off heart attacks before climate change effects them.
The more ‘hardcore’ activists seem to be mostly white, middle class people who obviously don’t have to be at work etc.
I think you're right. Maybe it's just the media presenting it that way but the protestors seem to be living a life of leisure with nothing to do midweek except protest and the anti-protestors seems to be working class people trying to get somewhere to earn a crust:
when idiots collide
I couldn't have vocalised it as well as that but that's my take, in a nutshell.
Hopefully each will be prosecuted, IANAL but the **** in the Range Rover must have committed a very serious offence, surely? That was seriously reckless and dangerous.
I would not care if I was held up, it’s not like school, work, family would not understand why I was delayed
Let me guess, you're a Paramedic? No? Fireman?
the fat slags
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the protestors are living a life of leisure with nothing to do
And yet they choose to spend their free time on something they believe in that effects us all, particularly the poorest in society, the bastards.
Let me guess, you’re a Paramedic? No? Fireman?
Yes, well they should let those through - pretty stupid.
Driving down the wrong side of the road too no?
Ooh, Fireman! Not heard that job title used for over 30 years… what a blast from the past. Hopefully big Chelsea tractors will be a thing of the past soon too, more space for cycling, walking and children?
Driving down the wrong side of the road too no?
I'd hope they'd get her for something more than a technical driving offence.
Mind you I'd hope the human road blocks get done for obstructing the highway which is also an offense.
Bellends on both sides. Can’t think of anything more intelligent to say, really. Tired of it all.
Protest like this serves very little purpose other than making the protester feel better about themselves. Clickbait personified.
Ooh, Fireman! Not heard that job title used for over 30 years
I'm posting from 1980 so it's fine.
I've got to go now, the Sweeney's on.
but the protestors seem to be living a life of leisure with nothing to do midweek except protest
Or they have burned their annual leave to protest, or they WFH and can finish what they're doing later or any of a number of other scenarios that don't involve a life of leisure. A perfect illustration of being lead by the nose by the 'gutter press'.
Insulate Britain are also relying on the law to ensure that they are ‘safe’ while protesting
I kinda rely on the law to ensure I'm safe too - what's wrong with that?
Or they have burned their annual leave to protest, or they WFH and can finish what they’re doing later or any of a number of other scenarios that don’t involve a life of leisure.
If you can WFH and/or have annual leave to burn you're deffo entitled middle class and well off compared to the people who are dragging them off the road who are clearly out earning a living and can't just WFH and don't have five weeks annual leave plus bank holidays.
Which was exactly my point, you snipped half of it.
It's like the climate protestors have weighed up the pros and cons of modern life and found favour with saving the climate instead.
If you can WFH and/or have annual leave to burn you’re deffo entitled middle class and well off compared to the people who are dragging them off the road who are clearly out earning a living and can’t just WFH and don’t have five weeks annual leave plus bank holidays.
She particularly didn't look like she was on her way to put a shift in anywhere, but it doesn't really matter.
Road blocked.
Solution – Reverse, do a U turn and go another route.
Problem solved.
Yeah, I can see that working, with the traffic stopped dead and vehicles bumper to bumper…
Also, many roads in London are one way, or restricted to certain types of traffic.
If you can WFH and/or have annual leave to burn you’re deffo entitled middle class and well off compared to the people who are dragging them off the road who are clearly out earning a living and can’t just WFH and don’t have five weeks annual leave plus bank holidays.
Which was exactly my point, you snipped half of it.
I can WFH home and have a lot of annual leave accrued due to working lots. Also can’t afford a ****ing Range Rover (or any relatively new car for that matter) so there’s that I suppose
If you can WFH and/or have annual leave to burn you’re deffo entitled middle class and well off compared to the people who are dragging them off the road who are clearly out earning a living and can’t just WFH and don’t have five weeks annual leave plus bank holidays.
What Utter garbage.
but is the ironic mothership not that for the government heat pump plan to work, the houses installing them will need to be much better insulated anyway?
I don't think Boris will be concerned with such piffling details.
I don’t think Boris will be concerned with such piffling details.
Too busy stirring up shite about crusties armed with carrots or somesuch bollocks
Capital not labour.. They are targeting the wrong people, but it is not Westminster they should be blockading. They need to chain themselves to Shell & BP HQ car park entrances and similar.
Yeah, I can see that working, with the traffic stopped dead and vehicles bumper to bumper…
I would wager that the other side of the blocked carriageway was fairly quiet.
She particularly didn’t look like she was on her way to put a shift in anywhere,
That wasn't typical of the encounters I've seen but even so she didn't really conform to my idea of privilege: Untaxed Range Rover with bald tyres, plus something about her makes me suspect she didn't go to Cheltenham Ladies college.
...and she was taking her kids to school, which *is* necessary.
So yeah, I'd guess she was an example of someone who isn't rolling in cash doing something relatively important
In contrast the people blocking the road were white middle class people with time to burn.
Appalling.
Hope the driver sees the inside of a court room. No excuse I can think of to use a car as a weapon.
As for the utter arse hat egging her on, what a merchant banker.
Also can’t afford a **** Range Rover
I couldn’t afford her nails, let alone her car.
Hope the driver sees the inside of a court room. No excuse I can think of to use a car as a weapon.
Yeah. That could have ended horrifically, needs sorting through the courts IMHO.
The more ‘hardcore’ activists seem to be mostly white, middle class people who obviously don’t have to be at work etc.
They tend to be because they recognise their privilege and use it. Not everyone has the luxury of being able to give up work for this and yes it does tend to be the white and middle class because of the way privilege has worked in this country. They should be applauded for giving up their comfort because that woman being pushed by the car looked properly scared but I'm sure she will be back.
I’ve seen lots of quotes on this thread about “middle class white people with time to burn”. What evidence is there of this? Are these just quotes repeated from other forums or the tabloid press? And what if they are as quoted, does it diminish the argument for the quick returns (for rich and poor) in having properly insulated homes?
Imagine the brassneck of someone in your class saying 'hey is this your mum on youtube?'
the current tactics are only angering the kind of people you’d need to be winning over
Not sure they are looking to win over cuprinol-tanned, fat-arsed harpies with fake nails, tits and Range Rovers - who would rather burn every hydrocarbon on earth than give up their hair straighteners / facial saunas / patio heaters.
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