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[Closed] if you are a dole scrounging scumbag......(ch 5 now)

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.....should you be sterilised/neutered like other animals?


 
Posted : 23/06/2014 9:11 pm
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Nah - but I reckon fat folk should be.


 
Posted : 23/06/2014 9:12 pm
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bastid......... 😆


 
Posted : 23/06/2014 9:12 pm
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😈


 
Posted : 23/06/2014 9:13 pm
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Nah, but politicians should be.


 
Posted : 23/06/2014 9:14 pm
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.....should you be sterilised/neutered like other animals?

Or should you use the correct forum?


 
Posted : 23/06/2014 9:15 pm
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Watching BBC2 in Sheffield, totally depressing


 
Posted : 23/06/2014 9:27 pm
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Its really good to demonize benefits claimants.

We of course all know they chose their lives are and how they've chosen their situations starting from decent and privileged upbringings like many o,here have had.

🙄 ad infinitum.


 
Posted : 23/06/2014 9:30 pm
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Al......28 kids, ffs, it aint hard to keep you cock in your pants mate.


 
Posted : 23/06/2014 9:32 pm
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Watching BBC2 in Sheffield, totally depressing

Change channels and move house, then.


 
Posted : 23/06/2014 9:33 pm
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Surprising number of "oh so PC" social workers on the front line would be in favour of the sterilizing argument. For whatever reason, some people cannot responsibly care for children, and it causes a huge amount of grief and heartache for all involved to try and sort them out.


 
Posted : 23/06/2014 9:34 pm
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Channel 5, owned by the Daily Star douche. Sensational TV for idiots too stupid to form their own opinion and would rather be told what to get angry about.


 
Posted : 23/06/2014 9:39 pm
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fines paid from benefits?? unreal, not only do tax payers pay to keep em, we pay for their crimes too........the world in upsidedown..... 😆


 
Posted : 23/06/2014 9:39 pm
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it aint hard to keep you cock in your pants mate

I beg to differ. Not that the magistrates had any sympathy... 🙄


 
Posted : 23/06/2014 9:40 pm
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Turn it off and watch the Brazil game, entertaining even if you don't like football.


 
Posted : 23/06/2014 9:41 pm
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.....should you be sterilised/neutered like other animals?

In the far east if you are on "social benefits" you get automatic sterilised etc once you reach 4 children. 😛


 
Posted : 23/06/2014 9:42 pm
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How do you get these benefits then?

40 straight years of paying in is apparently not enough to qualify
Maybe I need to move to Sheffield?


 
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Watching BBC2 in Sheffield, totally depressing

And they wonder why people take things into their own hands 😐


 
Posted : 23/06/2014 9:44 pm
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53k a year, for not working........... 😯


 
Posted : 23/06/2014 9:46 pm
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53k a year, for not working...........

Yeap, the entire country own them a living. You work they live. :mrgreen:


 
Posted : 23/06/2014 9:48 pm
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[i]And they wonder why people take things into their own hands[/i]

Maybe if more people did that they wouldn't have so many kids.


 
Posted : 23/06/2014 9:49 pm
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And they wonder why people take things into their own hands

28 kids, I don't think that's what they did.

damm beaten to it.


 
Posted : 23/06/2014 9:50 pm
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i am gonna get my snip reversed and get me a haareem...... 😀


 
Posted : 23/06/2014 9:50 pm
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Seriously turn it off, it will only make you unhappy.

Ps 53k would be take home, you'd need to earn over £80K/yr to take home 53K.

..... sorry couldn't resist!


 
Posted : 23/06/2014 9:54 pm
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Good idea ton ... let's see how I should get harem ... 😆


 
Posted : 23/06/2014 9:56 pm
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it dont make me unhappy, i just dont like the way they think they are owed something.


 
Posted : 23/06/2014 9:58 pm
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Ninfan, just as a matter of interest
what would you suggest happens? BBC2 documentary is depressing.


 
Posted : 23/06/2014 9:59 pm
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The system has been broken for many years so it will not change for another 3 generations I guess ...


 
Posted : 23/06/2014 10:04 pm
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Wow. Everyone who loses their job gets a grand a week - cool.


 
Posted : 23/06/2014 10:05 pm
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Wow. Everyone who loses their job gets a grand a week - cool.

Of which £929 goes to their landlord.


 
Posted : 23/06/2014 10:11 pm
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I mean, obviously I'm just flailing wildly in the dark here, but is it just slightly possible that the program has been edited to provoke the most outrage and hence the most viewers? It works really well for the daily mail and none of us would be seen dead reading that, right?


 
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And if you think dolies are expensive you ought to see the costs of the disabled.


 
Posted : 23/06/2014 10:14 pm
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i reckon if you are on the rock n roll and you have more than 4 kids, you get sod all for them.

28 kids, ffs......... 😆


 
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And the cost of the government. And the tax avoiding corporations. If all corporations paid the tax they were supposed to in the UK the dole bill would disappear many times over. But lets keep slagging off doley scum. It stops us looking at the corporations and the legislation that allows them to get away with not paying tax.

[url] http://www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2013/09/13/benefit-errors-cost-1-million-a-day-tax-avoidance-and-evasion-cost-260-million-a-day/ [/url]


 
Posted : 23/06/2014 10:22 pm
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whoooooooooooshhhhhhhh


 
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Surprising number of "oh so PC" social workers on the front line would be in favour of the sterilizing argument.

OK two points
1. I doubt your claim
2. At the point at which you support Nazi like eugenics programmes of sterlisation you probably fail the "oh so PC " [ whatever TF that is] test.


 
Posted : 23/06/2014 10:25 pm
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yeah, I figured it was a mickey take originally ton but it turned a bit nasty at the end there.


 
Posted : 23/06/2014 10:27 pm
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Jesus wept.

We really need some sub forums for this shit and folk that post it.


 
Posted : 23/06/2014 10:28 pm
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samuri.....no mickey take. surely you cant think it is ok for a bloke to have 28 kids and then think that someone else should feed/clothe/pay for them and pay for their mistakes?


 
Posted : 23/06/2014 10:28 pm
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28 kids ... they should sell some of them. 😯

Does the country own them a living that is the question?


 
Posted : 23/06/2014 10:31 pm
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Jesus wept.

We really need some sub forums for this shit and its folk that post it.

+1

Although, no point in this case. The OP would still pick the wrong one.


 
Posted : 23/06/2014 10:36 pm
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In that case I'm more worried.
The benefits system is there fundamentally for the vulnerable in our society. Yes, a few abuse it but demonising them allows us to demonise them all. For the rest it's a desperate life line that they cling to with little hope of ever getting away from it. These people live day by day.
If there are holes that people can abuse then they'll do that, just like people will abuse holes at the other end of the scale but I'm reluctant to criticise those that take advantage of the lower end of the scale (who take very little in the grand scheme of things) when others are screwing us up the arse by taking billions and we largely ignore it.

The government who create these policies love trash programs like this because it gets us all wound up and hating the weak when we should be hating the powerful.


 
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langylad - after speaking to a good few coppers I reckon that they could just take the scrotes who were making everyones lives hell, and make their lives hell by persecuting the law to its fullest extent - in that programme I saw all sorts of offences that you could punish them for - football in the street sonny? bang, see you in court (highways act offence)

Essentially, I think that the balance of power needs to be taken back so they realise that they cross paths with the police at their peril.

Of course the issues of reams of paperwork for a minor offence need to be dealt with, as do the punishments handed out by the courts (bailed after multiple offences, slap on the wrists punishments) - I would be interested but probably depressed to know what happened to that lad who did a runner after being arrested, potentially a long sentence for that.

As for the other issues, I think its depressing that they seem to be able to find limitless resources when certain boxes are ticked, but everyone else is left on their own


 
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But how would putting them in prison help? It's fairly well known that putting people into prisons only serves to further criminalise them. And it's much more expensive than paying benefits.

The issue is education. Unless you believe yourself to be genetically better than these people, then you must have been brought up and educated with a different set of values, otherwise why wouldn't you be claiming £53k a year in benefits or whatever it's supposed to be?


 
Posted : 23/06/2014 10:42 pm
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I guess the good thing is these threads highlight folk here that really aren't worth listening to.


 
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