[Closed] iDieting

I'm a late starter to the iDave diet having only discovered it last week, so first week on the diet.

The original poster asked for a lunch suggestion, I wandered over to Sainsburys metro and bought a tuna and bean salad which came with a pot of chilli sauce. Very tasty.

bigdawg - Member

Couple of things Ive noticed though...
When racing I dont need as much drink or gels as I used to (500ml will now last me virtually the race - I used to take three of these, and maybe two or three gels as opposed to every 20 minutes)

This is something that I've noticed as well. I've been on iDave fully for a couple of months and have lost just over a stone in that time. What's really striking is the extent to which what I need to eat before and after riding has decreased. From a couple of flapjacks before a ride and then every hour when I'm out, I'm now down to a handful of PowerBar energy shots each hour and have never felt like I'm lacking in fuel or energy. Given that I've been injured for much of this period and have only started to ride properly again in the past few weeks it's also amazing how much difference losing weight has made in terms of speed and efficiency. I'm not really any slower than I was than before my back blew up.

I had 10 days off it as a trial run and put on 6 pounds. I just had bread, potatoes and some cake. Didn't pig out.

But I don't care now as I'm back in Geneva, running and swimming tonight, the sun is out and the views are delicious.

Lots of paleo recipes here, which aren't too far off iDave territory.

http://www.marksdailyapple.com/primal-blueprint-recipes/

I worked on nutrition with a guy who got a medal in a national TT last weekend - he got to his lightest weight and highest power after just 4 weeks, whilst still using sports carbs but in a more considered way. Increasing protein intake significantly was part of the plan. The rest is in a lead lined box.

Me and the missus started it at the beginning of July. Started off well but haven't stuck to it religiously. There have been a few weeks where I've had more than one day off, like if I've been away somewhere for a long weekend, which has happened a few times.

For the most part though, I've managed to stick to stick to the whole avoiding cereal-derived stuff, spuds, rice and dairy thing. Main meals are all iDave-compliant.

Chocolate and beer intakes have been creeping up to their previous levels in the last couple of weeks. Feeling a bit fed up and comfort eating/drinking. So need to try and curb that.

But me and the missus have both managed to lose about 10lbs and achieve a shift in our eating habits pretty successfully.

Think doing it in the summer is the easy bit. Can see it being harder to keep to it when the nights draw in and you want to get something down you that'll stick to your ribs.

As it's not a low fat diet why is winter an issue?

Big spicy stews?? Curries?? Steak and bottle of Amarone?

Three days in so far. I'm definitely not eating enough, as I get hungry in the afternoons.

But, I like the idea of it. and I do have two stone to shift, and a bad refined sugar habit to kick so I don't get diabetes.

[i]Three days in so far. I'm definitely not eating enough, as I get hungry in the afternoons.

But, I like the idea of it. and I do have two stone to shift, and a bad refined sugar habit to kick so I don't get diabetes.
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Stick with it. Reading our accounts here will hopefully inspire you to keep at it.
I also Find Mark's writing very motivational.

Then, if my experience is anything to go by, in several months time, the hunger between meals will go away.
This, for me was always the issue with trying to control body weight through my diet / eating habits.
Since going initial, low GI a la iDave, and now combining this with Paleoesque choices.
Hunger between meals is very uncommon for me now, and thus snacking just isn't wanted / needed / doesn't happen.

Its all good.

Thanks Dave.
😉

Hi folks 🙂

I lost 10kg up until the end of July - this was good. I wasn't 100% strict though. I was doing a fair bit of riding to get to work, and I didn't have a lot of energy for high intensity training to be honest. I introduced some carby snacks (usually in the form of a Twix from the vending machine) and the more I introduced the better I could ride, which actually made my weight go down.

I had basically a month off though whilst travelling back here, entertaining family and struggling with a new baby, put on 4kgs but I'm not worried cos I'm sure I'll lose it easily. This last two weeks has been tough though since I've been travelling all over for job interviews and it's hard to get iDave food at motorway service stations, and even harder to get your training in when you're utterly knackered from 5 hours of driving and a job interview on 4 hours of broken sleep...

I suspect my body's just terrible at burning fat, but I didn't seem to get much better at it when I was strictly dieting. I am eating many more beans though now, finding it fairly easy to cook very beany stuff now.

Btw I was thinking about the difference between glycaemic load and glycaemic index - some foods are high GI but if you only eat a small portion (ie one biscuit) the glycaemic load could be quite low still, so would not be too much of an issue possibly.

So by that logic having a 'healthy' bowl of pasta or a sandwich could actually be worse for your weight than a Twix. Although I dunno about the numbers, I could be wrong.

How do you manage to put on 4kg's? Surely you must be eating lots? Or eating unhealthy stuff? If you just eat a sensible amount of reasonably healthy food then I cant see how you can put the weight back on so easy.

David, putting on 4kgs was pigging out. It was a very stressful time for loads of reasons, so I just indulged. Lots of cake and coke, and no bike.

Shifted 2.5 of those kgs in a week though when only partially back on!

How can you guys be so specific about weight? I'll bounce between 68-70kgs depending on time of day, day of week etc, before stepping into the shower or having just stepped out of shower...

I used to be like that DS, but from when I started doing base training and then moved onto iDave, it doesn't vary much any more.

But my quoted weights are first thing in the morning post-piss pre-breakfast. And not including the morning after eating something very salty, cos that adds up to 1.5kg for a day or two, ime.

I went on it in the spring/early summer. Instantly felt amazing. Prob though was that as easy as I found it to follow the plan alcoho, boredom with the bikesl and an utter lack of motivation to excercise(case in point that I couldn't even remember my password to log on to comment) tended to nullify weight loss. Mid summer and a new business meant hi-stress and long hours and the whole thing slipped. Time to get back on the wagon for me, feeling awful.

I agree with an earlier post, an idave recipe thread would be good.

Shifted 2.5 of those kgs in a week though when only partially back on!

iDave FTW then!

I started on Monday. Intended to start a couple of weeks ago, but postponed it for various reasons out of my controll.
The one i'm trying is called slo-carb..looks like it's exactly the same thing as iDave, just different name.
I said on another thread ( couple of weeks ago) i would take some before and after pics, but decided against that. I took measurements and weight on monday morning as a reference.
Running out of ideas already for bean dishes, but so far so good. I have seen some reference about taking Potassium, Magnesium and Calcium supplements, as the diet means you loose excess water, along with electrolytes. Potassium solved by using Lo salt. Not sure if the recommendation for supps is just at the start, or throughout the diet?
Other half already fed up with my farting! paaaarrrp!

And not including the morning after eating something very salty, cos that adds up to 1.5kg for a day or two, ime

Salt has that much affect on your body weight?

I'm doing the fourhourbody/tim-ferriss diet, which I think is the same as iDave's.

Lost almost half a stone in 2 weeks, very easy diet to follow as well.

I do find I'm eating more meat mind, and this seems to be putting up the cost of my shopping a fair whack 🙂

you don't need to find 'bean dishes' as such, just replace rice/pasta/potato with beans of various types with various seasonings

I found that worked better with some foods than other though. Curries with chickpeas or dahl was obvious, chilli with beans also yummy, but spag bol with beans instead of pasta is a bit weird.

Salt has that much affect on your body weight?

Seems to, for me. No other way of gaining 1.5kg overnight without water retention. I used to buy these pasta ready meals which were just a normal portion of pasta, but for some reason I'd be heavier for a few days after eating one, when my weight had been pretty stable otherwise. Then I realised how salty they were.

Is Cider/Cidre in?

Bit sugary isn't it?

Bollocks 🙁

Dry cider then?

Bruised belly for me then.

Dunno, find out how much sugar is in it. Not sure why only red wine is on the list but I suspect that has something to do with it.

Ah well...you know how it gets when you begin to accept chubbiness...that's where I am. I can still do stuff. 😐

I've read sooo much about this diet that last time I was in tesco I shunned (yes shunned!!) the pasta.

I love pasta.... 😥

I love everything...too much, apparently 🙁

As long as you love baby jesus you'll be grand.

Is that Baby Cheeses you said? My ear's a bit waxy. 😕

yeah, mini baby belles, get them down you. and the mozzarella balls. you need fattening up.

Dave I emailed you, did you get it?

got it not read it yet, too busy lifestyle advising diarydarcy

doughydarcy?

Hehe ok just checking the spam situation.

I think spam is allowed on the diet though?

spam is shite

Just found this for recipies...including lunch..

ROBBWOLF.COM "http://robbwolf.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/The-Slow-Carb-Cookbook.pdf"

Hope the link works, as i'm crap on computers.

I think I have only eaten it once in my life aged about 5.

@ Jimmers...

🙁

Dishydarcy?

I think I have only eaten it once in my life aged about 5.

What is the iDave diet, where do I find out about it?

What is the iDave diet, where do I find out about it?

This thread was going so well until DaintyDarcy turned up! (pictures(or come out for a ride) or you're just taking the pee out of the pastrypositive)

Don - my weight also fluctuates but I'm on a concerted effort to have it fluctutating just below 12 stone rather than just above it. Plus I like the look of my abs 😳

Has anyone else noticed that they find they sweat more (whilst exercising) on the iDiet?

Been following it on and off myself for a couple of months, def lost weight but think need to stick to it a bit closer to continue shifting it 😉 Breakfast can be a pain, bacon and eggs or just hard boiled eggs gets old fast, guess I need more imagination (yeah I know you don't have to eat traditional breakfast stuff but not sure what else is practical in a rush at 6am). The other struggle I have is when I'm unprepared - not having microwave meals in the fridge can be a big inconvenience :p

Best meal I've found (that I've not got bored of yet) is to make a big stew (onions, leeks, carrots, beef, chorizo, chick peas, cannelini beans, lentils, chilli, 3/4 bottle red wine and various spices and a load of part defrosted garden peas in at the end), I make a pressure cooker's worth and get 5 meals out of it (seems fine a couple of days later microwaved...). Takes me 45 minutes to prep and 45 minutes to cook but given it lasts a few meals it's worth it and gives me something nearly instant if I go home for lunch etc.

On the breakfast front, if sugary carbs are 'allowed' pre exercise, does that imply that a cereal based breakfast is OK if followed by a quite high intensity 15km cycle to work ?

And as for the exercise sweating, AFAIK a high protein low GI diet is more thermogenic than a 'typical' diet, don't know how/if this is linked.....

As for spag bol without the spag, that'd be bean bol wouldn't it 😉

Im not sure why sugery carbs are needed pre exercise. Maybe Ive now trained my body not to need them but I did post about them earlier, but two things Ive noticed:
- during 2 hour plus xc races I use a lot less on the carb front, used to gel every 20 mins and 500ml of SIS Go an hour, now I still have drink left with only one 500ml bottle and I maybe use 2 or 3 gels.
- But this maybe down to my non race sunday training - due to having two under 4 kids Im up at 530 in the shed/garage kinda thing and on the turbo for a two hour race simulation (ie hr and cadence matching a normal race) - I eat or drink nothing before I get on the turbo, and all I take with me is one 750ml & one 500ml fluid replacement drink (not carbs - its that hi5 zero stuff) and yet my times to date are consistently quicker every week (its a tacx which gives me the oportunity to race against my previous mes whilst riding round the german and spanish world cup courses).

So, Ive eiether trained my body not to need carbs and get energy from other sources or we genuinely dont need them, personally I think its prob a combvination of both.

Also during the week I ride 10 miles plus to work after 2 poached eggs and a glass of fruit juice, no coffee until I get to work.