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So if you use deliberatly ambigous language any resulting confusion is due to the reader?
I decide what is offensive CM and I set the bar quite low
I never mentioned any 'sexual' element, maybe a Freudian slip by you?
I din't say you did. Just trying to understand the nature of the 'abuse'. Eliminated sexual abuse as a possibility, based on lack of information. The relatively low sentence would almost certainly rule out any sexual abuse, and indeed more serious physical abuse. So, I'm assuming that it was a relatively 'minor' form of assault, and not one which resulted in any long term or permanent physical harm.
"Assault' could be all sorts of things. 'Abuse' might imply some form of pre-meditated action designed to control someone through physical or mental harm or coercion.
You have to agree, the phrase 'abuses young girls' is a tad more emotive in our sentationalist media obsessed society than 'assault on a child'.
You've misquoted, 'abuses' is plural because it refers to 'anyone'. I didn't imply he was guilt of more than one abuse, but you chose to infer it.
I don't think I have 'misquoted' you. I do think you're being a little defensive however.
Which is why if you a referring to 2000/2001 specifically, you would do well to clarify, just to avoid confusion.
If I had to clarify every remark I made to cater for the uneducated I'd never actually get any work done! I feel like creating some really good (amusing) examples but I'll let you use your imagination instead.
If I had to clarify every remark I made to cater for the uneducated I'd never actually get any work done!
True, but if you just kept it to the ambiguous ones, you'd probably find it manageable.
'Most folk' think the Millennium changed between 1999 and 2000.
Oooh that's right - throw in the old [i]ordinal vs cardinal numbering system debate[/i] - why does that ALWAYS come up in arguments about free speech? 😉
If I had to clarify every remark I made to cater for the uneducated
Oh I see, throw in a remark about the intellectual ability of those who might not quite understand your ambiguity, right, ok, cos that's gonna win you points, isn't it?
Unpleasant, yes. But I wouldn't say offending someone was justification for criminal proceedings.
Oh I see, throw in a remark about the intellectual ability of those who might not quite understand your ambiguity, right, ok, cos that's gonna win you points, isn't it?
Of course it is, only an idiot wouldn't see that!
Unpleasant, yes. But I wouldn't say offending someone was justification for criminal proceedings.
I'd like to see STW if it were!!
Very cold hearted comment to the Police officer who lost his vision.
Of course it is, only an idiot wouldn't see that!
I am actually an idiot, and that's offensive and an attack on my Human Rights. 😥
I am actually an idiot, and that's offensive and an attack on my Human Rights
Not at all, you have always been allowed to exercise the right to be an idiot, on this forum.
I am actually an idiot, and that's offensive and an attack on my Human Rights.
Are you saying he's not entitled to an opinion? 😈
Tell me, were he not a policeman blinded at the hands of a celebrated killer, would she even have been deemed to have committed a crime?
Can't see, even in a just society, this warranted her being criminalised TBH.
I agree with the judgement, they've got her bang to rights!
edit: uh oh, Now I've said bang!!
simply if i heard her say it id smash her head in!
Very cold hearted comment to the Police officer who lost his vision.
Very, but surely not grounds for legal action? That's just daft.
Very, but surely not grounds for legal action? That's just daft.
True, but justice is blind
coffeeking - Member
Very cold hearted comment to the Police officer who lost his vision.
Very, but surely not grounds for legal action? That's just daft.
in some countries she would be going to prison for a very long time.
Tell me, were he not a policeman blinded at the hands of a celebrated killer, would she even have been deemed to have committed a crime?
Well IANAL, but from my in-depth watching of such exemplary documentaries as "Cops With Cameras" and "Road Wars" I can tell you that public order offences seem to be rolled out fairly regularly - especially when folk are giving grief to police officers (being aggressive, threatening, spitting at them, swearing etc).
joao3v16 - Member
We humans are all in a race?
top prize is a 2 week holiday in France 🙂
in some countries she would be going to prison for a very long time.
True, and in some countries men are allowed to rape women and no-one bats an eyelid. Fortunately we are meant to live in a sensible country and this, I fear, is not sensible.
top prize is a 2 week holiday in France
2nd prize is 4 weeks
PeterPoddy won 2 weeks mtbing in Tenerife, the lucky bastid. 😡
Are you saying he's not entitled to an opinion?
It depends. Am I entitled to an onion?
I had a good chat with the copper who attended my road accident last week while we waited for recovery to turn up and clear the road.
He said it was nice to be dealing with a "proper victim" for a change as most of his work was intervening in conflicts between equally nasty people.
Define 'scum'
Scum is something thats just floated to the top, then just sits there, no use to anybody.
simply if i heard her say it id smash her head in!
+1.
stuff society and "lowering good people to their level" and all other heated but informed Stw discussions.
hanging's too good for her, get me my "cleansing" stick
Scum is something thats just floated to the top, then just sits there, no use to anybody.
What, like the aristocracy, David Cameron and the Royal Family?
Blimey...
so she did this and you will kill her for this in a way worse than hanging. Now we are all meant to think she has no morals or ethics and you have excellent morals and ethics.
So two wrongs dont make a right unless the second wrong is hugely disproportionate to the first.
We all need to remain balanced. Saying that, she's obviously carrying a few spuds and that hat and the goldie lookin chain isn't helping.
I bet she's dead clever and her or her offspring will be curing cancer or global climate change warming in a trice and we'll all look back and laugh. Except the copper. Who cant.
She was arrested after making the comment and a gun gesture with two fingers behind the officer's back on 2 March.
So actually the person that told him what she was up to caused the distress...
I find taking people like to this to court to be an extreme waste of the taxpayers money, it would be far more fun to set the authorities on them for all of their other misdemeanour's.
Absolutely, anyone that abuses young girls has to be eh? And they imprisoned him for it? Should have given him a medal eh?
Ironyometer fail.
So, scum and cream are the same?
[i]"Define 'scum'."[/i]
Difficult to 'define' but come to where I work & I'll point a few out.
surely not all screws are scum ?
i'm doing jury service soon - will be interesting toactually have to decide for real. not sure if i will be a hang em and flog em or a soft liberal touch.
don't get tempted to get involved in any facebook contempt of court!
Oh I see, throw in a remark about the intellectual ability of those who might not quite understand your ambiguity, right, ok, cos that's gonna win you points, isn't it?
I didn't mention intellectual ability, I mentioned education. Completely different.
And I don't come here to score points, didn't realise that was the goal.
I didn't mention intellectual ability, I mentioned education. Completely different.
You're moving the goalposts so much I'm now wondering where the pitch is....
So, now you're saying it's just the' uneducated' what can't understand you? How do you define 'uneducated'?
Shit. taking the piss is now illegal?
I'm ****ed.
[i]surely not all screws are scum ?[/i]
Ha Ha! I'll point out some who I deem not worthy of the job! The wing I work on currently has 50 prisoners, I'd say about 10 or so are 'scum', maybe less but no more.