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[Closed] I did a Speed Awareness Course yesterday

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So 31mph is as ok as 39mph.. You choose. Harsher penalties and more pro active policing is needed
But why not.
Its a town centre,a speed roundal of 2 is fine, a dual carriage way 6 etc
Not a target but a bracket.
Give the hapless motorist some choice but remove the 33 is as safe as 29mph as i am a good driver mentality.

Or just STICK TO THE SODDING LIMIT. It's really nowhere near as complex as people are making out.


 
Posted : 31/03/2022 6:26 pm
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STICK TO THE SODDING LIMIT

Problem is that's too simple because of the case where people are going "too slow" by not going at the limit.

That is the problem with cars having mandatory speed limiters.

Eventually, people will be "trained" to drive everywhere at exactly the limit with their right foot on the floor. Road conditions, and other road users be damned.


 
Posted : 31/03/2022 6:36 pm
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A BMW M3 is going to be able to take the same corner at a much higher speed without crashing than a Ford Ka. The risk of the M3 crashing is the same at either speed. The KA will probably crash because it isn’t capable of the manoeuvre. The variable is the car not the corner or speed.

I think you'd be very surprised how well a Ford KA (or Fiesta) with good tyres can handle in the hands of a competent driver. I wager at least as well as a chunky, heavy BMW M3, *on tight British roads*


 
Posted : 31/03/2022 6:44 pm
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Problem is that’s too simple because of the case where people are going “too slow” by not going at the limit.

Tough shit. Suck it up, and overtake where you can.

Just because they go slow doesn't mean that there's a problem with having speed limits, or that you can argue your way out of the commitments you have as a driver. Yes, they should be going faster. Also, don't speed.

I wouldn't have mandatory speed limiters; I would however have mandatory black box driving analysis from insurers.


 
Posted : 31/03/2022 6:49 pm
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The variable is the car not the corner or speed.

I have to disagree. In an imaginary world that statement is plausible but it doesn't account for variables.

In the event of a mistake by the driver, or a loss of traction, the faster car has more momentum coupled with a much shorter timeframe for the driver to react.

Consequently the slower vehicle is intrinsically safer in your scenario.


 
Posted : 31/03/2022 6:56 pm
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It’ll take Bob five minutes to drive ten minutes?

it’ll take bob five minutes to drive the same section of road as Alice does in ten minutes. So is this hypothetical risk in the section they both drive? Or are we comparing apple and bananas?


 
Posted : 31/03/2022 7:25 pm
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So is this hypothetical risk in the section they both drive?

You don't know.


 
Posted : 31/03/2022 8:23 pm
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And there are very few 3 lane autobahns, amd very few sections of them are de restricted
In fact alot of autobahns regularly go down to 100kmh near towns due to road noise. Which is adhered too and policed with gatso cameras

Yep, only once have I actually been on an Autobahn without restrictions. At 150mph
I swear I could see the petrol gauge needle drop.
Dropped back down to about 80 fairly quickly.


 
Posted : 31/03/2022 9:08 pm
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