[Closed] How Many Armies does the Queen have?

Seriously though, I use a cafetiere to make my coffee. Seems OK. Is there any REAL advantage in buying a Gaggia or is it just a plot to remove more buying credits from my bank account?

Jhj has realised that if he starts a batshit mental thread rather than derailing an existing one, he won't be banned for it.

IIRC it was one particularly sensitive bat shit mental topic. Most are fine.

What a brilliant idea, all countries to be ruled by Jim Broadbent lookalikes

The tragic thing is that no-one has yet made a film about King Karl Gustav in which Jim can be cast.

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Interestingly, the next in line to the throne has expressed his determination to be more "influential" when he ascends to High Crankdom.

Since he'll by default be Supreme Ruler of Earth And All Her Domains I can only assume he intends to invade the sun

Phil40, the "conspiracy religion" comparison is spot on.

You only have to look at the likes of Alex Jones (the other one) preaching his sermons to his flock to see the similarities.

Shouting rubbish at his eager disciples like a TV Evangelist. And they lap it all up without question, all the time lining his pockets with online advertising revenue and book deals.

It's in incredible thing to watch, but just like any cult, the reality of it is very hard to see from the inside. So those people who have fallen for Jones etc, are brainwashed further and further into the "cult of conspiracy" and become incapable of looking at any evidence objectively.

Only giving any time to things that agree with what they have been preached by their leaders.

In terms of the "uncomfortable questions" that JHJ mentioned earlier.

This situation is a question that's too uncomfortable for them to deal with, so just like many with blind faith, they ignore difficult to deal with stuff like Evidence and Logical Reasoning, and just stick with Conjecture, and have "faith" in what the preachers feed them.

I am trying to remember where I read the article, it was about 10yrs ago when all of the theories about 9/11 were out and about.

Not sure if that makes my post invalid, as I don't have the original source I can quote 🙂

I just like to put it on record that I'm not involved.

More to the point, how many sleevies?

Bindun? I wouldn't know...

In the first reply 😆

I have a couple of friends who are into conspiracies ..one about govts one about medicine

The problem is they use things that are true but they dont prove their view. For example all governments [ or pharma companies] lie to you therefore only a sheple would believe them. Its true but this does not prove your current view is correct you still need to prove your claim.

They then cherry pick massively the information - say the [very rare]side effects of vaccines whilst ignoring the eradication of say polio. Its pretty clear to see JHJ doing this ie Constitutional monarchy then figure head and ignoring three paragraphs that said she was a figure head and quoting the bits he agreed with.

The 9/11 one argues its suspicious bin laddens relatives [ I dont even know if this true tbh] left america before hand...he would have found it suspicious had they been there when it happened. Basically the evidence always fits the views.

The medical one is far worse as she thinks all sorts of shit can cure cancer and all sorts of shit are dangerous as she read it on the internet.

Much of the individual points taken in isolation are true ish but the conclusion are crazy.

I'm going with phil - it's an attempt to overlay a sense of order on to something that's essentially random and chaotic to keep panic at bay.

Where IS jhj, by the way?

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Just beaten to it by MrW!
JHJ hasn't been on this thread for 14hrs, just how long does it take a lizard to regrow it's skin?

these two points may or may not been connected.

The skin change is pretty quick tbh.

But the manicures take forever...
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Evidence of the Lizard people I think you'll agree.

Sorry guys, been a bit preoccupied...

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Interested to hear what JHJ has to say about some of the legislation passed over the years to limit the moarchs power...Magna Carta (stretching my history memory now) Bill of rights 1680-something, and the Acts of settlement in 1701?

Though those documents certainly seem to be noble in their intentions, you have to judge the crown on their actions...

Looking at all the murderous colonialism that has occurred since those documents were penned, combined with the current surveillance state, it seems at odds with the sugary sentiments that are bestowed upon well meaning pieces of paper when we operate under a non written constitution.

It's fair to imagine that many of those decisions to plunder over the years were made within the [url= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Privy_Council_of_the_United_Kingdom ]privy council[/url], a body that to this day retains an oath of secrecy and minimal democratic accountability.

It's fair to imagine....

Yes, a fertile imagination is a wonderful thing indeed.

Although facts do tend to be favourable when trying to prove a point.

Do you have any ?

Can you explain the function of the Privy Council to me neal?

There's even a link in my last post to help you out...

you have to judge the crown on their actions...

Looking at all the murderous colonialism that has occurred since those documents were penned

Proves that the present day monarchy wields significant power ? Some impressive leaps of logic there.

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...sentiments that are bestowed upon well meaning pieces of paper when we operate under a non written constitution.

If these sentiment are bestowed on paper how can it be [i]"a non written constitution"[/i] ?

Pictures instead of words perhaps ?

Read your own link if you need it explaining to you. Why ask me ?

When you have evidence of the queen waging war independently of the elected government, come and have a word.

Looking at all the murderous colonialism that has occurred since those documents were penned,

Whoah.. I hope you never discover anything bad that my great great great great grandparents did. I'd be in trouble then!

sentiments that are bestowed upon well meaning pieces of paper when we operate under a non written constitution

To contradict your own argument so neatly and succinctly is such a rare gift

You dont even need us to point out the flaws in your arguments and thinking as you seem to be able to do them yourself now

BRILLIANT

The Privy Council, the modern-day successor to the Privy Council of England and the Privy Council of Scotland, was formerly a powerful institution, but its policy decisions are now exclusively in the hands of one of its committees, the Cabinet.

If these sentiment are bestowed on paper how can it be "a non written constitution" ?

[url= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_the_United_Kingdom ]Your guess is as good as mine[/url]:

Unlike many other nations, the UK has no single constitutional document. This is sometimes expressed by stating that it has an uncodified or "unwritten" constitution.[1] Much of the British constitution is embodied in written documents, within statutes, court judgements, works of authority and treaties. The constitution has other unwritten sources, including parliamentary constitutional conventions.

When you have evidence of the queen waging war independently of the elected government, come and have a word.

Why would I need evidence of the Queen waging war independently of the elected government?

I can't recall saying that that was the case...

My point is more along the lines that the Governments, Armies and Secret Services of the UK and the Commonwealth Realms etc work on behalf of the Queen/Reigning Monarch, rather than the electorate, especially when it comes to foreign policy.

You're up Junky, give us a full explanation of the Cabinet...

Just make whatever point you want to make.

Then people with the ability for critical thinking can explain to you why you're talking shit.

This giving out homework, pompous "teacher" role you seem to have adopted is really weird.

Your guess is as good as mine

Except that there is no need to "guess" at all, as your copy and paste proves.

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My point is more along the lines that the Governments, Armies and Secret Services of the UK and the Commonwealth Realms etc work on behalf of the Queen/Reigning Monarch, rather than the electorate, especially when it comes to foreign policy.

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So the reason that the UK didn't bomb Syria was because Her Majesty changed her mind !

It had nothing to do with the elected representatives in parliament voting against military action !

That was just a very strange but happy "coincidence" !

Have you ever considered doing standup JHJ ? I think to could do some very amusing niche conspiracy theory comedy.

So who's behalf do the secret services work?

Or the Army?

Or the Cabinet as the executive body of the Privy Council, who's oath is:

You do swear by Almighty God to be a true and faithful Servant unto the Queen's Majesty, as one of Her Majesty's Privy Council.

You will not know or understand of any manner of thing to be attempted, done, or spoken against Her Majesty's Person, Honour, Crown, or Dignity Royal, but you will lett and withstand the same to the uttermost of your Power, and either cause it to be revealed to Her Majesty Herself, or to such of Her Privy Council as shall advertise Her Majesty of the same.

You will, in all things to be moved, treated, and debated in Council, faithfully and truly declare your Mind and Opinion, according to your Heart and Conscience; and will keep secret all Matters committed and revealed unto you, or that shall be treated of secretly in Council.

And if any of the said Treaties or Counsels shall touch any of the Counsellors, you will not reveal it unto him, but will keep the same until such time as, by the Consent of Her Majesty, or of the Council, Publication shall be made thereof.

You will to your uttermost bear Faith and Allegiance unto the Queen's Majesty; and will assist and defend all Jurisdictions, Pre-eminences, and Authorities, granted to Her Majesty, and annexed to the Crown by Acts of Parliament, or otherwise, against all Foreign Princes, Persons, Prelates, States, or Potentates.

And generally in all things you will do as a faithful and true Servant ought to do to Her Majesty.

So help you God.

More questions from the self appointed "teacher" 🙄

Just make whatever point you want to make.

Spell it out.

Make an accusation.

Get some nuts and make statement !

Do something other than make snidely insinuations for once.

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Are you OK neal?

You seem a little grumpy...

Do you want me to call your mum to pick you up at the school gates?

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My point is more along the lines that the Governments, Armies and Secret Services of the UK and the Commonwealth Realms etc work on behalf of the Queen/Reigning Monarch, rather than the electorate, especially when it comes to foreign policy.

Has anyone else noticed that jhj has not questioned or responded to the analysis of conspiracy theorists as a form of religion. Instead it is back to the monarchy with a steadfast silence on a question about his own world view!

To quote him hmmmm makes you think doesn't it!

Or the Cabinet as the executive body of the Privy Council, who's oath is

JHJ I've been working on behalf of the Queen ever since I made this promise a long time ago :

[b][i]On my honour, I promise that I will do my best. To do my duty to God and to the Queen, To help other people. And to keep the Scout Law[/i][/b]

Obviously I'm part of the conspiracy. But keeping the Scout Law is important to me.

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Dib dib... is there a scout badge for offshore financial centres, coups on foreign governments, or procuring children for MPs to abuse?

procuring children for MPs to abuse?

That Queen Elizabeth really is up to her neck in it. Isn't she ?

Still, what do you expect from a shape-shifting reptilian alien, eh ?

Has nobody noticed:
Tyranosaurus Rex.....
Elizabeth Rex.......

It's been staring us in the face all the time 😯

You guys do realise that 9/11 was a conspiracy don’t you?
- only it's extent is up for debate

So it's a bit bogus to conflate that with Religion

Are you OK neal?

I'm fine thanks.

Just very very very bored of you that's all.

Just make an accusation
Back it up with evidence
Then bask in your own glory.

With all the stuff you "know", that can't be that hard can it.

Oh how long I've waited for this day, the feeling is mutual, my blossom.

Do you mean credible and quantifiable evidence, like a dictionary?

Get the feeling jury duty with you would be a bit weird to say the least...

[quote=imnotverygood ]Has nobody noticed:
Tyranosaurus Rex.....
Elizabeth Rex.......
It's been staring us in the face all the time It's Elizabeth Regina....

procuring children for MPs to abuse

There's quite a few of us on this site involved in the Scout movement that get a bit fed up hearing shit like that, even in jest.

Ok. So based on your impeccable logic....

Because the Cabinet as the executive body of the Privy Council has an oath in which they swear allegiance to the queen, that [b]must [/b]mean that she is in total charge and they are just there to do her bidding and she has all the power ?

Ok. So let's pretend that's correct.

So that must mean that in America, where every school child recites the Pledge of Allegiance every day, they let a Flag take charge and make all the decisions ?

"I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America.."

Seems a legitimate train of thought wouldn't you say...

imnotverygood » Has nobody noticed:
Tyranosaurus Rex.....
Elizabeth Rex.......
It's been staring us in the face all the time

It's Elizabeth Regina....

Nobody like small scottish pedants

procuring children for MPs to abuse
There's quite a few of us on this site involved in the Scout movement that get a bit fed up hearing shit like that, even in jest.

I wouldn't bother trying to engage him in any sort of serious points.

You will just get passive aggressive smileys, or bullshit in return.

There's quite a few of us on this site involved in the Scout movement that get a bit fed up hearing shit like that, even in jest.

My bad, it was of course referring to the things that the secret services get up to...

Whilst I remember, it'd be much appreciated if anyone concerned about the growing evidence for MI5/6 involvement in paedophile rings could contact their MP, urging them to support [url= http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/bills/cbill/2014-2015/0116/amend/seriouscrimeaddednames.pdf ]John Mann's amendment to the serious crimes bill, allowing whistleblowers to disclose evidence without being prosecuted under the Official Secrets Act[/url]

Have you ever considered doing standup JHJ ? I think to could do some very amusing niche conspiracy theory comedy.

.... the growing evidence for MI5/6 involvement in paedophile rings

Remind me again I can't remember - why does MI5/6, under the express orders of the Queen of course, want to organise paedophile rings for MPs ?

Hmm, hopefully someone will be along to remind us, I'm struggling to recall...