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Bloody philistine.
GQ - how very 'new money'.
i'll send my man round with a card for my tailor. delightful chap, the family have used him for years
Generally, I don't take reps to be the arbiters or style or behaviour. Otherwise we'd all be removing a sock to **** into every time we got stuck in a traffic jam.
The experienced traveller keeps an extra sock in the glove compartment.
On a slightly related subject, I've sometimes wondered about taking "proper" clothes on leisure trips - a dashing linen suit for example, instead of a deplorable t-shirt and shorts.
The experienced traveller keeps an extra sock in the glove compartment.
....next to the travel beaker.
wear a suit with a bit of room to move around inside, it'll minimise creasing.
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On a slightly related subject, I've sometimes wondered about taking "proper" clothes on leisure trips - a dashing linen suit for example, instead of a deplorable t-shirt and shorts.
i do this as i hate looking like a brit abroad dressed like a sack of shite. nothing fancy just linen trousers and a few linen shirts a smedly polo in a slightly different colour to trousers with lightweight leather shoes. swap the shoes out for some thin soled black trainers with minimal branding and breathable mesh (new balance, vivo barefoot etc) if i have a lot of walking to do.
i never ever put the jumper tied over the shoulders though.
[i]I just put on my £1700 suit and will I admit I looked pretty smart. For about 20 minutes. Now I look like a bag of rags as normal.[/i]
Is it an off-the-peg one?
IME pay a third as much (or far, far less abroad) and get a properly fitted one made from quality materials at a tailor.
the family have used him for years
Clearly. You're getting fashion tips from the 1870s.
As has been said, cost is no measure of a suit. You could spend less than that and have a proper bespoke mid-weight English woolen cloth single breasted suit that would have a proper floating canvas and look great for as long as it held together and fitted you. Fused jackets tend to look crap very quickly and respond badly to dry cleaning and warm weather.
If it looks bad on you now, did it ever really look good on you back then?
become a gangster?
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I think I'm naturally scruffy, I have trouble looking smart for even 5 minutes. Some people look smart even after being caught in a rain storm without a coat.
They don't do proper work.
On buttons, I would never doubt HRH's sartorial judgement so I would agree that on a two-button double-breaster jacket both buttons must be done up to maintain the line of the front.
On a single-breasted, a gentleman doesn't do up the bottom button.
To the OP it seems you may have paid £1600 too much then.
Decent cut and fabric should hold up on to most normal business day activity. Less so to anything abnormal like skiing or swimming.
As for the DiCaprio pic - the multitude of suns was the second thing I spotted, after the ill fitting suit
Buttons?
Sometimes, often, never.
Well, on a single breasted suit anyway..
To the OP it seems you may have paid £1600 too much then.
Now come on! There's putting folk down for having money to spend on stuff (which I accept is the way around here), then there's just being ridiculous.
A £1700 suit by a proper outfit (Canali/Zenga etc) whether fitted or not, will be a lovely thing and will look good on a slim gentlemen. A £300 suit from say Ted Baker or Hawes & Curtis, taken in to suit Sir, will also be very nice.
A £100 suit will explode in a fireball.
Suits. They keep hanging around. I realised I was the only guy not in a suit at a meeting of folks from a number of companies in my industry on Friday. Most of the other guys had dark grey suits on. Some wore ties too. Me? Black jeans, black T-shirt, black crew necked sweater. I'm kind of glad I don't feel the need to wear a suit.
The women wore a diverse range of clothes from suits to blue jeans.
Starch the collar and cuffs on your shirt. Avoid shirts that crease too easily. There are plenty of high quality low iron shirts. Ted Baker are worth a look for shirts.
Make sure hankerchief is starched, ironed and matches the tie.
Assuming the suit fits you properly then it's the details that make one look scruffy. Suit fashon also changes annoyingly often. You might look smart at home, but then you go out and spot someone in a brand new suit. Subconciously you think you look scruffy.
The smartest looking people tend not to wear suits....
I have 4 clones who are direct impersonators who undertake my daily tasks, whilst I lord it up on a small island just off the Croatian Coast.
I like suits , it makes me feel and look good and gave me sense of arrogance and and very high level of confidence state of mind, like I am driving a Focus but everytime I wear a suit my Ford Focus becomes a Jag in my head 😛 .. too bad my job requires me a fireproof overall and 9100FX Helmet instead of a suit 😕
but you don't wear suits straight out of Tesco or Hugo Boss hangers..always have it tailored to fit you and how you want to look at it and always wear it with pride, style and class otherwise you will feel exactly what you just described like a rag ....people always sense this, aura and body language you cannot defeat this .. take this mantra "if you dont feel good, then you also dont look good"
Suits, along with those sports branded football managers coats, will be consigned to the fleet of empty oil tankers that I will be mooring off the coast, when I begin my rule & the big clearout begins.
suit by a proper outfit (Canali/Zenga etc)
Proper? Only if you wish to dress like a spiv.
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I suspect you either look good in suits or bike gear but never both. I'm part of the former camp and unfortunately nowadays I only wear suits for weddings or funerals and pretty much live in MTB clothing during the week (I commute off-road and run my own business)... Never owned an expensive suit either!
Make sure hankerchief is starched, ironed and matches the tie
Let's get a few things straight here, it's not a hankie, a snot rag or a handkerchief. It's a pocket square and should go nowhere near a nose apart to be offered to a damsel in distress for drying tears and then politely refused if offered back.
Also it should never 'match' the tie, it should compliment the outfit but if it matches it looks like you bought a 'wedding kit' where you get a box of stuff for men who don't know how to dress.
Also it shouldn't be starched or ironed as it's likely silk or linen and should be worn with a tousled elegance that looks effortless, if it's folded to within an inch of its life with a regimented 1cm strip on show it just shows you as a corporate conformist follower not a leader.
Proper? Only if you wish to dress like a spiv.
I was about to post a fierce retort, then just googled their current range.
The world's gorn mad etc. Canali used to do bloody gorgeous, timeless suits 😕
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To the OP it seems you may have paid £1600 too much then.
Now come on! There's putting folk down for having money to spend on stuff (which I accept is the way around here), then there's just being ridiculous.A £1700 suit by a proper outfit (Canali/Zenga etc) whether fitted or not, will be a lovely thing and will look good on a slim gentlemen. A £300 suit from say Ted Baker or Hawes & Curtis, taken in to suit Sir, will also be very nice.
A £100 suit will explode in a fireball
But the OP felt he looked awful in it which he wouldn't had he spent £300 wisely. I get your point though 😉 Off the rack can be fine but for £600+ I'd be looking at made to measure/tailored to fit. My Armani wedding suit still looks and feels great. Can't wait for the slightly baggy single breasted look to come back in!
Let's get a few things straight here, it's not a hankie, a snot rag or a handkerchief. It's a pocket square and should go nowhere near a nose apart to be offered to a damsel in distress for drying tears and then politely refused if offered back.
Also it should never 'match' the tie, it should compliment the outfit
If we're going to be sticklers for doing things properly that should be complement, not compliment.
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A suit certainly creates an impression! I believe these are Armani. Look more like Vango to me.
Well spotted.
There's probably some grammar mistakes in there you missed, but I don't have to do perfect written English for my job so errors happen.
"Whats that Luv?, you say the wedding cars here?, fine.. I'll be down in a minute"
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"Yeah, the suit still fits"
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bearnecessities - Member
10 points to who can spot what's wrong with that picture.
21st century McDonald's cup in mid 80's set fillum?
