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You might be surprised that not everyone has an interest in footie.
Indeed. Although I had heard of Manchester United, I had never heard of Harry Maguire until this rather unsavoury episode. I went to watch Luton play Watford in about 1967, and I haven't been to a football match since. There are some things that people really should take some interest in - politics, science, the arts, for instance - but football is not one of them. Nor is any other sport, come to that.
Never new Ben Stiller had a twin brother. Shocking business.
There are some things that people really should take some interest in – politics, science, the arts, for instance – but football is not one of them.
That is a silly comment. Why should people take interest in any one thing over another? People take interests in the things that, err, interest them. But, that aside, having a broad knowledge of what is going on in the world around them (outside of what interests them) is surely a healthy skill to have?
I am not sure why I should know who an England football player is.
If this was a forum dedicated to football, I could probably sympathise, but it is a cycling website.
I didn't know who he was either, but rather than typing "who is harry maguire" on a cycling forum, and waiting a while for an answer.
I just typed "harry maguire" into google and got an instant and very thorough answer.
Far easier, and much less likely to make you look like one of those types who enjoy telling people they don't know anything about stuff that's really popular with "other people"
What’s this google you speak of?
You might be surprised that not everyone has an interest in footie.
You may be surprised to hear that I don’t particularly like football either. You might also be surprised to learn that you’ve missed my point entirely!
I don’t care if people do or do not like football, or if they do or don’t know who Harry Maguire is. My point is that proudly broadcasting your ignorance of a subject is stupid.
I realise the subtext of the initial comment was something like “I don’t like football, and you lot are stupid for engaging in conversation about it.” Which is bad enough in itself, but to say it with faux ignorance really grinds my goat.
First line of this report sums it up for me...
I believe the correct term is”wendyball”.
Cheese rolling or are you new here?
There are some things that people really should take some interest in – politics, science, the arts, for instance – but football is not one of them.
Of all the sanctimonious comments I've read on here over the years, this is the biscuit-taker. Well done. Get yourself a lolly out of the jar...
Of all the sanctimonious comments I’ve read on here over the years, this is the biscuit-taker. Well done. Get yourself a lolly out of the jar…
Thank you, you've made me so proud of my achievement.
I'm not saying that people shouldn't like football, just that it's not particularly valuable, except as a distraction. About on a level with Tetris or Solitaire, I guess.
In superior court in retrial will he wear long trousers?
Unless you followed football why would you have any clue who Harry Maguire was. I watch a fair few matches and I hadn't heard of half England's latest squad, why would I have? I had heard of Harry mcquire but I'm pretty sure 50% of my mates wouldn't have a clue who he was.
As for his explanation of what happened...seems pretty unlikely to me.
About on a level with Tetris or Solitaire, I guess.
Have a word with yourself. Do you seriously believe this is true? You either have not traveled much or have no idea of the cultural impact football has. World wide.
Not knowing (or worse, pretending not to know) who England International and captain of Man Utd Harry Maguire is is not something anyone should be proud of – even if for some reason you want to tell everyone you don’t like football.
Thanks for the snide put-down. Coming, as it does, from someone with the username‘Superficial’, I shall treat that comment with the respect it deserves. The same way I treat football and the grossly overpaid primadonnas who disgrace a game of such little consequence.
That is a silly comment. Why should people take interest in any one thing over another? People take interests in the things that, err, interest them. But, that aside, having a broad knowledge of what is going on in the world around them (outside of what interests them) is surely a healthy skill to have?
I absolutely agree, I’m fascinated by a huge range of subjects, including some sports - but excluding football; once upon a very long time ago it was a game played by working-class blokes who everyone could relate to. Now it’s played by prancing idiots payed vastly more than any reasonable person could ever consider reasonable, who show more clearly than anything else that money can never buy good taste, but can buy an obscene disregard for the fans who’ve forked out equally obscene amounts of money to keep these pathetic spoilt brats in the manner to which they’ve become very much accustomed to.
Poncing around in a ludicrously expensive sports car with a tasteless paint job is bad enough, but owning and bragging about half a dozen or more, and their equally tasteless choice of wris****ches is the ultimate insult to those who pay to watch the game and buy the overpriced merchandise, which changes every season in a cynical exercise in fleecing the gullible.
Not a fan then.
I've been stabbed, and in court the defence tried to make out it was my fault. Plenty of aggressive questioning.
the legal system treats people in a really sterile way.
Who is Harry Maguire?
That is what I asked when first hearing the story. I soon found out who is was by seeing him on the news in an interview and I now know he is just a person who is very, very bad at lying.
This thread reads like everyone is feeling a little sensitive and fractious. All good things eh?
Poncing around in a ludicrously expensive sports car with a tasteless paint job
Vinyl wraps, paint is soooo last decade, do keep up 😉
It really does seem to be all about bread and circuses, just like the end of the Roman Empire.
Some funny comments above.
My ten pence, these are the points that don't make sense to me.
1) where is the puncture wound and toxicology report for the sister? If she was injected with something?
2) it all kicked off but then they got on the mini bus and drive to the hotel for 5 minutes before being stopped by police. Why didn't they head to the hospital? Why did the police let them drive away? Why did the police stop the mini bus?
3) if he thought his sister had been drugged and his Mrs was in the mini bus and he thought he was being kidnapped, why did he try to run away and leave them to the "Albanians"
4) the police attacked his legs saying "you will never play football again" but the charges relate to him saying "do you know who I am"
I suspect they were spending ridiculas amounts of money and bringing too much attention to themselves. Texts went round "Harry Maguire is at so so" people arrived, too much was drunk. People got too friendly, it kicked off, police were called, he didn't think he'd done anything wrong and refused to cooperate abd everyone got on the bus and drove off. Police who had been patient got pissed off, stopped the bus, went in heavy handed, he tried to run off to avoid media problems, police caught him, they might have said things when they arrested him, probably whacked him a few times because he tried to resist arrest. He then shit himself because if the media and got out a wod of cash and tried to make it all go away.
I blame man utd. If your going to pay a young man £100000 a week plus bonus, plus the rest, then make sure you send a fixer with him. It should have been in his contract when he signed to prevent their asset getting damaged or creating reputation damage to man utd.
I'm not the first to think that his explanation sounds like he'd watched Taken the night before?
I absolutely agree, I’m fascinated by a huge range of subjects, including some sports – but excluding football; once upon a very long time ago it was a game played by working-class blokes who everyone could relate to. Now it’s played by prancing idiots payed vastly more than any reasonable person could ever consider reasonable, who show more clearly than anything else that money can never buy good taste, but can buy an obscene disregard for the fans who’ve forked out equally obscene amounts of money to keep these pathetic spoilt brats in the manner to which they’ve become very much accustomed to.
Poncing around in a ludicrously expensive sports car with a tasteless paint job is bad enough, but owning and bragging about half a dozen or more, and their equally tasteless choice of wris****ches is the ultimate insult to those who pay to watch the game and buy the overpriced merchandise, which changes every season in a cynical exercise in fleecing the gullible.
So you are not fascinated about the game but you clearly display lots of knowledge about those that participate. Time to come out of the closet?
Might be slightly controversial but I think Maguire's version might be nearer the truth as we had a similar experience 15 years ago in Corfu.
My experience was in Crete, a very long time ago (circa 1984)
In a local bar with another young couple we met. 2 blokes come in, drag 2 girls outside and start slapping them and generally roughing them up. Me and the other guy step in (no punches thrown just get in between and to be fair the guys weren't full on "beating" them)
The 2 girls ran off (it was a hotel bar and we learned later that it was about bribes not being paid) and the 2 blokes focused on us, within seconds they claimed to be plain clothed police. A minute later a police car appears and we are all taken to the police station. I get a few punches in the back of the car for fun and we spent the night in the station. Next day in court the whole thing is a shambles. In summary "pay us money and say sorry" (for assaulting police) and you can go otherwise a week in clink.
Paid what we had left of our holiday money and released. As we left the 2 police involved followed us and asked us for more money. Fortunately our "lawyer" managed to intervene. We spent the next week worried we were going to be targeted by the 2 thugs (sorry plain clothed police)
Its possible things havent changed much in the last 35 yrs
I absolutely agree, I’m fascinated by a huge range of subjects, including some sports – but excluding football; once upon a very long time ago it was a game played by working-class blokes who everyone could relate to. Now it’s played by prancing idiots payed vastly more than any reasonable person could ever consider reasonable, who show more clearly than anything else that money can never buy good taste, but can buy an obscene disregard for the fans who’ve forked out equally obscene amounts of money to keep these pathetic spoilt brats in the manner to which they’ve become very much accustomed to.
Poncing around in a ludicrously expensive sports car with a tasteless paint job is bad enough, but owning and bragging about half a dozen or more, and their equally tasteless choice of wris****ches is the ultimate insult to those who pay to watch the game and buy the overpriced merchandise, which changes every season in a cynical exercise in fleecing the gullible.
If you really think that about Footballers then I think you're showing yourself to be even more ignorant about the game.
Get down to your local lower league team, you will find working class blokes who are fully in touch with reality and not earning a working wage alongside playing football.
Its possible things havent changed much in the last 35 yrs
It's also possible people have stories like that about uk police from 35 years ago, and things have changed.
You have to remember though places like Mykonos are full of ****ty English people behaving appallingly in what remains a fairly socially conservative place in many ways. Not saying that would justify police violence or harassment but it's understandable if they are less than sympathetic to the plight of lairy British footballers.
Not saying that would justify police violence or harassment but it’s understandable
Looks like you are.
If you selectively quote and ignore everything else I said you can try and make it seem like that yes 🙄
You have to remember though places like Mykonos are full of ****ty English people behaving appallingly in what remains a fairly socially conservative place in many ways.
Not in our case - it was the north of the Island which has mainly couples. UK women tend to stand out with blond hair. The locals tended to quite aggressive and forward towards them.
I was only there for one night on my way to photograph a wedding on Syria. Seemed to be a big party place from what I could see, though weirdly there were more young Australians there going a bit nuts than anyone else.
British tourists have a reputation for being drunken, obnoxious, and for the women to be promiscuous. It's difficult to argue it's not deserved really but it's a shame when everyone gets tarred with the same brush. One of the few times white British people get to experience actual prejudice.