Encription is ‘just’ maths, the government may as well try and ban calculus, or French.
Oi, you've pinched that line off me! 😁
I’m reasonably confident I could write an app now that used private key encryption and install it on my Android phone. Then I could send you the app and the private key and you could do the same. Noone would ever know.
I’m also reasonably confident I could do the same thing with PKI and create a criminal network based on my own shady certificate authority and anyone could use it.
And this is essentially what he just said.
Fundamentally this isn't wizardry, the knowledge how to do it is in the public domain. The basic concept is in young adult fiction (uh, as is wizardry). You can ban what you like, it's the work of minutes for anyone moderately technical to implement from scratch.
Sorry if I’m bucking the trend here and coming off all Tory. I’m not, I’m a raging lefty. But I’m also a parent. And that’s my priority right now.
Which is exactly what they're banking on. "You're opposed to the bill? Don't you want to protect children?" It's an emotive argument and it is deeply disingenuous.
Whenever people slag off these kind of bills they rarely come up with an alternative. So I can only assume that means we all think nothing needs to be done. Maybe, but personally I’d rather do something.
The desire to do "something" rather than nothing is in part how we got brexit. Setting fire to your settee because you're a bit chilly is "doing something." Building a scale model of the Arc Du Triomphe out of your own earwax because you're a bit chilly is "doing something." We don't need a better alternative before we can acknowledge that an idea is braindead or simply just won't work.
It's a difficult issue for sure. But "something" isn't the answer even if we're not sure what actually is.
Has anyone seen anything "official" from the Government about how they intend to measure the success, or quantity the benefits, of this bill ? [Apart from n seats saved in any Election 🤔]
I've no idea what metrics they would use!
Similarly, have the "opposition" (and I'm not referring to Labour) produced any credible rebuttal and/or metrics about potential harm of this bill?
It’s a difficult issue for sure. But “something” isn’t the answer even if we’re not sure what actually is.
yep it ends up falling down the trap of they have to be ‘seen’ to be doing ‘something’ as opposed to actually doing something right.
In a subject where the majority(ish) of people don’t get ‘it’.
so to loop back to the OP, and i slightly apologise as this could be better placed on the other 18 page thread..
long overdue allegations (several years in the making) emerge at the same time as the (re-emergence of the) online security bill...
conspiracy or (desperate, convenient) coincidence.
genuine question - personally i say coincidence, mostly as i dont rate the ability of the government, security services and media to get together..
Irrelevant tbh.
produced any credible rebuttal and/or metrics about potential harm of this bill?
What other than maths says you can't gain access to encryption without breaking it totally for each and every use lawful and unlawful.
Register article where bill is passed but admissions of technically unfeasible from those in charge.
Earlier article stating the same
It's enlightening to read the comments too as the commentards are generally technically adept and they lay out all the wrongness in glorious sarcastic detail, with a side order of scorn.