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ernie_lynch - Member
I've seen how badly UKIP did in London, only 10%, even the LibDems beat them which is quite remarkable imo.
London is "too multicultural and too highly educated" according to UKIP spokesperson on BBC news
astonishing what some people can get brainwashed by the media into believing.
Yes some of them fall for guff like UKIP will help working people and think Farage is one of them and not a career politician .....morons
Just listened to a ukip guy on r4, good lord what a clueless numpty , I wasn't too worried by them before!
THERE are children listening to this [ his emphasis]
He was stark raving wasn't he and just ignored any point to repeat that
Its rude to call someone a racist why are we letting them get way with and then just talking over the top - you could tell they were just turning his mike off I would love to see footage /audio of it!!
I know they like to play the victim card but he was proper barking
chewkw - Member
I will be voting UKIP for the next general election as well.
Which of their many manifesto policies do you find particularly attractive?
I don't really have anything to add to this - Binners has put it much better than I would have.
If your think UKIP are bad, just read listen the rot that comes from the SNP/yS. The frightening thing is the latter can actually exercise power. That is scary. At the moment, UKIP can't actually do too much harm except indirectly.
well done for lasting 4 pages
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You will be claiming the SNP cause floods next 🙄
No one can think the SNP are worse than UKIP the only thing worse than UKIP is the BNP
FFS they are politicians you do not like they are nothing like UKIP. I hate Gove but he is not like UKIP he is just a **** he is not an irrational racist **** or a fruit loop
Get a grip as you are starting to look like the later
If your think UKIP are bad, just read listen the rot that comes from the SNP/yS.
Go on then, explain why the SNP/yS are worse than UKIP.
I'm sure your explanation will be fascinating.
Which of their many manifesto policies do you find particularly attractive?
That's obviously a trick question.
If you paid attention you would realise that chewkw derives huge pleasure from regularly informing everyone that he has voted UKIP and the opportunity to use this emoticon 😈
This simple pleasure is clearly sufficiently attractive for him not to have to concern himself with tedious issues such as "policies".
The BBC, bless em', ventured south today, they went to Basildon in Essex. Now this 70's edifice of a gateway to the countryside is and has been populated by ex East Londoners guaranteed the life of green trees and open fields. They're died in the wool ex Londoners and Essex types that have seen first hand the influx and settlement of immigrants into lands they once lived in and to some extent escaped from. Traditionally a right's wing area dominated by Tories with further right wing standards. Its no wonder UKIP did well there.
To those that don't live, or mix, in cities with multiculturalism at the forefront of their doorstep then please you must try to understand the divisions within these communities. There are rifts and splits and secularism spread between whites, blacks, asians, eastern europeans and folks don't tolerate each other very much at all. So it ends up with one group hating the other, the other group vilifying the other and the others feeling lost in a minefield with nowhere to turn.
Each party has had their attempt at the "enabling" culture, putting schemes and barriers in equal measure, spending extraordinary amounts of time and money in areas that see sub culture and inner city crime as part of a normalised day. I'd like to say it's only cities that have such divisions, I fear it isn't, sleepy villages in deepest leafy Surrey have similar divisions about "out of towers coming into our village, driving too fast, taking all the school places up etc. etc."
Its similar but the skin colour of the "immigrant" isn't necessarily tainted in brown or yellow, its invariably folks moving out of cities into villages for a better life and disrupting the locals.
Tribal, thats all it is. Each social tribe fights for the right to their part of the land and they want to make the laws for their part of the land, they want to control their part of the land and they will defend their part of the land.
UKIP have tapped into this sentiment far more than "call me Dave" tried with his "big society" experiment. Daves attempt to pass social responsibility to those that seek to own it (the tribes) failed because peoples attitude towards Government and the current mainstream parties is none existent, trust has been lost and a new face and group have moved in and speak the language of people that are truly pissed off with platitudes, double standards and inconsistent policies.
I've said it before, i'm glad UKIP have entered the fray, glad they are gaining support and being pilloried for their views and the views of those that support them. They have a voice now that hasn't been heard for a very long time and nows the time to voice that opinion and get people talking about the state of this country we all live in is in.
Long may that voice be heard I say.
Yes some of them fall for guff like UKIP will help working people and think Farage is one of them and not a career politician .....morons
Another gem ..
another moron who falls for it but lacks the ability to counter the point madeAnother gem
moved in and speak the language of people that are truly pissed off with platitudes, double standards and inconsistent policies.
Farage refuses to have his expenses [ and all UKIP MEP's] audits despite hating waste and MP's fiddling expenses and stealing from the public
He employs his wife as his PA despite hating croneyism in politics
He employs a german despite insisting jobs should be for British folk
He threw away the entire manifesto he signed dismissing it as drivel
he is a privately educated millionaiire - yes whata break from the rest eh
He left the Tories yet he speaks for the working man - i feel certain he says man and not people
His ability to use spin whilst claiming he is not like the rest is truly impressive
Either that or only dummies vote for them
I cannot decide which it is...mooman ? any views 😉
Still no idea why you folk buy this drivel tbh
Tribal, thats all it is. Each social tribe fights for the right to their part of the land and they want to make the laws for their part of the land, they want to control their part of the land and they will defend their part of the land.
Unfortunately for you, research seems to indicate that bigotry tends to decrease when people live in or move to multicultural areas.
At the end of the day, Labour and the Conservatives still control 3000+ seats, whilst UKIP control 157.....whooo yeah.
The media are blowing their "success" way out of the water, from all their coverage you'd think that 50%+ of the country backed them.
Calling people stupid is never going to help, even if it's true.
Yes it will, people need to know that they are.
Thing is Tom, I'm not a supporter of UKIP, I'm just glad they're here with a voice.
Why? What voice is that? Is it the "I'm a stupid **** who failed at life and blame all my problems on immigrants, so I'll vote for a corrupt Eton toff who's creaming off the idiocy of his voters" voice?
Dunno but you seem to have a far better grasp of this than anyone 😆
The media are blowing their "success" way out of the water, from all their coverage you'd think that 50%+ of the country backed them.
Tom_W1987 +many.
I was wondering if they had a seat on Question Time with 'FARAGE' written on the back. The media have given them far more coverage/adulation than they actually deserve, based on their number of MEPs, number of MPs.
from twitter
UKIP have 145 of 3,263 council seats so far counted - 4.4% of total. BNP managed 6.2% in 2009.
[url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-27536110 ]where's the purple ?[/url] A bit more perspective from Jeremy Vine, though I think his final analysis for predicting the lead needed to win a general election may just show that Labour always do better when it comes to the big one and making the tories share look worse at the same time.
So the Beeb lead the news with a party who have no council under control with labour's successes as an afterthought. Media hyperbole??
Vine at least more balanced for a change with some timely balance and focus on the real stories. Tow major parties neck and neck and lib Dems mullered. Come the gen election, these will be the main stories
trickydisco - MemberUKIP have 145 of 3,263 council seats so far counted - 4.4% of total. BNP managed 6.2% in 2009
Ah now that is an interesting stat. I thought, fair enough, UKIP might not be pulling in huge numbers but it does show a shift. But apparently not.
.Arse- go to Bradford, Keighley, Armley and you don't see multiculturalism, you see separated and isolated communities that don't mix with each other, they might as well have a brick wall between them for all the cultural diversity and shared sense of community - and that unwillingness and isolation applies to many within both communities
Bit like the northern parts of the island of ireland then and thats been going on for years.WIth little change, and they have real walls seperating them from each other,
UKIP have 145 of 3,263 council seats so far counted - 4.4% of total
The percentage of seats a party wins says as much about the electoral system as it does about the level of support they enjoy.
According to the BBC UKIP received 17% of the vote across England and NI.
Which is a good result for them but not really the political earthquake some appear to claim that it is. UKIP didn't come first in the local elections, it didn't even come second. Although you could be forgiven for thinking they had won more than another party if you listen to some of the comments.
Media hyperbole??
They have yet to say the SNP are worse than UKIP;if they did they would offer an explanation
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According to the BBC UKIP received 17% of the vote across England and NI.
I've just realised that last May UKIP received 23% of the vote in the England-wide non-metropolitan county council elections.
So yesterday's result in fact represents a 6% swing [u]away[/u] from UKIP compared to a year ago.
Going by yesterday's English metropolitan council elections UKIP is in fact [u]losing[/u] support, not gaining support. I've yet to hear anyone in the media mention that.
Of course it could be argued that UKIP is always likely receive less support in urban areas than in rural areas, I certainly think that's likely.
But that is most definitely not the narrative that we are being sold, which is that UKIP has a particular appeal to working-class voters.
So either UKIP is starting to lose support or they enjoy more support in the traditional Tory shires.
spot on ernie. ukip supporters are too stupid to understand statistics though 😥 im off out of the country if we are going this right wing. and im taking my 2 degrees and small business with me
Crikey. UKIP is just a small party but yet all the main parties are bashing them like crazy while running like headless chickens. What's the deal eh? Since they are not going to make any significant impact whatsoever why bother with them? If UKIP is losing support then it surely should not be a big deal at all? Yes? 🙄
Ed Miliband for PM ... that will learn you. 😆
ernie_lynch - Member
But that is most definitely not the narrative that we are being sold, which is that UKIP has a particular appeal to working-class voters.
Now I sense elitism there ... yes? 🙄
Remember, every second person you see's IQ is under 100
It's going to be interesting seeing the Euro results on Monday. We know about the locals. There are constituencies like mine, in a Tory area, where there was only a Euro election. Whereas local voting would interest more people, here only the motivated are likely to turn out, so that's those still keen on the Tories and the protest voters. And here the only major protest option seems to be UKIP.
Junkyard - lazarusAnother gem
another moron who falls for it but lacks the ability to counter the point mademoved in and speak the language of people that are truly pissed off with platitudes, double standards and inconsistent policies.
Farage refuses to have his expenses [ and all UKIP MEP's] audits despite hating waste and MP's fiddling expenses and stealing from the public
He employs his wife as his PA despite hating croneyism in politics
He employs a german despite insisting jobs should be for British folk
He threw away the entire manifesto he signed dismissing it as drivel
he is a privately educated millionaiire - yes whata break from the rest eh
He left the Tories yet he speaks for the working man - i feel certain he says man and not peopleHis ability to use spin whilst claiming he is not like the rest is truly impressive
Either that or only dummies vote for them
I cannot decide which it is...mooman ? any views
Just the one really. The saying about empty vessels making the most noise ..
And maybe another about how ignorant people always resort to name calling when they struggle to make a sensible point.
But please carry on. Your posts/views on the subject are real comedy gold.
Just the one really. The saying about empty vessels making the most noise ..
That would be name calling but apparently you are against that
And maybe another about how ignorant people always resort to name calling when they struggle to make a sensible point.
I really wish you were aware of what you were doing because if you were it would be satirical genius rather than the abject stupidity it appears to be.
Nothing rational then to counter the claims/points I made then and only name calling?
Bless
So hypocrite who struggles to count above one then...your playing to all the UKIP stereotypes. Would you like to say something offensive about gays or Lenny Henry so I can get the full house
Please, the name calling is childish/silly.
Somebody as enlightened and superior as yourself surely doesnt need to resort to them .. unless ..
Loom mooman you cannot call folk names and then ask them to stop calling you names or you look like
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you cannot finish sentences 😉
I mentioned plenty of facts about your dear leader I am happy to leave the petty name calling and just return to the facts and I feel certain you will be happy to play to your strengths and engage 😛
so how do you defend this then
He employs his wife as his PA despite hating croneyism in politics
He employs a german despite insisting jobs should be for British folk
He threw away the entire manifesto he signed dismissing it as drivel
he is a privately educated millionaiire - yes whata break from the rest eh
You can defend it it and explain it I assume rather than just call me names whilst objecting to name calling as childish
I await your cogent pearls of wisdom safe in the knowledge you wont be avoiding the issue or name calling
[i]UKIP have 145 of 3,263 council seats so far counted - 4.4% of total[/i]
Just curious - would that be across all of the election, or just the areas they had candidates. I'm assuming here they are small and new and therefore didn't contest all possible places.
Tell me this thread is a spoof, please.
Tell me this thread is a spoof, please.
My thoughts, entirely. Anyway, since we are being silly, I think Farage may end up being the best Prime Minister we never had.
Junkyard - lazarus
If you are searching for a living saint then you are looking at the wrong place in politics so look elsewhere. In politics you are merely electing for the lesser zombie maggot as your Dear Zombie Maggot Leader.
Trying to find faults with zombie maggots I am sure you will find many regardless of their political affiliation. Zombie maggotx they got you! Yes. 🙄
Farage refuses to have his expenses [ and all UKIP MEP's] audits despite hating waste and MP's fiddling expenses and stealing from the public
If he is breaking the law then the law will deal with him otherwise you cannot accuse him of fiddling or stealing. Hearsay? Shit I thought I saw a flying pig yesterday which must be true. No? 😆
He employs his wife as his PA despite hating croneyism in politics
That's his wife and she does not come even close to the definition of Dear Leader style cronyism. Wife being a PA being a crony for how much payment? Cummon! Cummon! (as in Peter Griffin expression 😆 ) Again, if employing her is against the law then charge him otherwise fair play.
He employs a german despite insisting jobs should be for British folk
In addition to the above answer of cronyism, if he employs a British you would have argued that he shows his true colour for hating the spirit of EU, now he is employing a German you say he is going against his word but isn't UK still in EU? If so then there is nothing wrong with that. Make up your mind.
He threw away the entire manifesto he signed dismissing it as drivel
He can throw away or dismiss anything he wants as that his prerogative. You too can throw everything he asks of you if you wish. 🙄
he is a privately educated millionaiire - yes whata break from the rest eh
When is a politician cannot be a millionaire and privately educated? He is privately educated which means his parents paid for him not yours. Are you trying to say that his wealth is generated through peasant slavery?
He left the Tories yet he speaks for the working man - i feel certain he says man and not people
Leaving a political party for whatever reasons does not mean a person cannot represent other social class. Many were born with silver spoons yet they represents many classes of people in society. Are they wrong? The used of the term workingman or people well this only demonstrates that you are really trying hard to find fault in a person. If this is the case you will find plenty in all the politicians but the fact is that so long as the PR machine is writing the script using the right words you are duped. 😆 So how many times have you been duped? 😈
Definitely a spoof, Chewkw imitating Junkyard's posting style is final proof.
Edukator - TrollDefinitely a spoof, Chewkw imitating Junkyard's posting style is final proof.
It takes a long time to type the right views you know. 😆
Why can't people just present one point at a time instead of putting out a list? I mean making others to argue point by point again ... FFS! This is not a shopping list you know. 😈
p/s: I took time to type out long reply because there isn't much going on the telly apart from footie final ...
I dont read his posts so I will need to take your word for it....and i value your word as much as STW towers do
Perhaps you could rant about the BBC and tell us about Leicester in the 70's for the full effect
Junkyard - lazarusI dont read his posts so I will need to take your word for it....and i value your word as much as STW towers do
You know you are wrong ... 😈
oldboy - MemberI think Farage may end up being the best Prime Minister we never had.
Zombie John Smith's gonna mess you up for that
Northwind - Member
oldboy - MemberI think Farage may end up being the best Prime Minister we never had.
Zombie John Smith's gonna mess you up for that
OOhhh ... Praiseee the Lord! (as the Warden in Shawshank says)
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Rab Butler - best etc, before your time. In case we're starting a list.
I thought all three leaders were privately-educated millionaires, claiming between them to speak for most of the electorate. Except that UKIP cast a little doubt on that.