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tramp the dirt down...
You had my hopes up then! I'll give her till Friday.
n 2005, the former PM was advised by doctors that she should not make public speeches in the wake of some minor strokes.
This makes me laugh. She is gaga. Thats why no speeches.
got the dubbin out and putting a shine on...........
I don't think it's nice to wish for the death of a Human Being....
One thing's for sure - it'll kick of one great big mofo of a fight on here when it does happen.
Stuart predicts confidently...
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Her son Mark ([i]In 1998 South African authorities investigated his firm for running loan shark operations. A company owned by Thatcher offered unofficial small loans to hundreds of police officers, military personnel and civil servants. When they defaulted on the loans they were pursued by debt collectors and charged 20% interest rates, according to the Star of Johannesburg.[7]
Other widely reported Thatcher embarrassments include allegations of U.S. tax evasion (a criminal case was eventually dropped) and a racketeering case in Texas which was settled out of court. According to The Daily Telegraph of 26 August 2004, "In 1998, he was at the centre of a scandal after he lent huge sums of money at exorbitant interest rates to more than 900 local police officers and civil servants in Cape Town. He admitted lending the cash but insisted that he had done nothing wrong. He is also thought to have profited from contracts to supply aviation fuel in various African countries."
On 24 November 2004, the Cape Town High Court upheld a subpoena from the South African Justice Ministry that required him to answer under oath questions from Equatorial Guinean authorities regarding the alleged coup attempt. He was due to face questioning on 25 November 2004, regarding offences under the South African Foreign Military Assistance Act; however, these proceedings were later postponed until 8 April 2005. Ultimately, following a process of plea bargaining, Thatcher pleaded guilty to negligence in investing in an aircraft "without taking proper investigations into what it would be used for". Thatcher admitted in court that he had paid the money, but said he was under the impression it was going to be invested in an air ambulance service to help the impoverished of Africa. This explanation was not believed by the judge and he was fined three million rand (approximately $500,000) and received a four-year suspended jail sentence.)[/i] who is loved as much by the British public as his mother,said she was "in good spirits" and her admission was "entirely precautionary".
Surprising how ****tishness is actually genetic...
Apparently theres a party planned in trafalgar square, 6pm, first Sat after she dies.
It might sound mean but if I can be there I will. She was a vile person who knowingly caused untold misery to others out of greed and spite. I fear this country may never recover from the harm she did.
Damn, and I try to stay out of the politics too.
I'll save it for Tony and the Blair Witch.
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It's gonna be a bun fight fo' sure.
The architect of today’s broken Britain, sold everything we owned for pennies and gave the key to Bank of England to "spivs and gamblers".
History will look back on the 80’s as a dark time in politics
PS energy security will be the cause of future wars and we have a 1000 years of coal buried under our feet...
PPS lets not forget the mess we are in right now
there's far too many grains left in that hourglass for my liking
I personally hold her in the same high esteem that I hold her political and personal friend Augusto Pinochet. And by high, I mean lower than whale s**t.
not nice to wish death but armando innuci [spell] said the only good thing about getting older was every day she was closer to death.
I am much more likely to party than morn
She was a vile person who knowingly caused untold misery to others out of greed and spite. I fear this country may never recover from the harm she did.Damn, and I try to stay out of the politics too.
I agree on both counts. She was vile person who knowingly caused untold misery ....etc, etc. And, celebrating her death has absolutely nothing to do with politics.
So I for one, won't be celebrating the death of a senile old woman. My issue was with her premiership - not the person. She stopped being an issue for me a very long time ago.
I find the whole 'let's all go out and celebrate when she dies' bollox, pathetic, childish, and a sign of political immaturity.
If you former revolutionaries, red wedgers and socialist youths haven't grown up enough, then you have more personal problems than are healthy. Regardless of your political views now or then, claiming to celebrate any death is just beneath contempt.
just grow up and got over yourselves you miserable bunch old school lefties
Sickos.
A social club near me has - for years - been collecting £1 per week from it's members to pay for a party
Elfinsafety - Member
I don't think it's nice to wish for the death of a Human Being....
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Pretty much sums it up for me.
It's not nice to wish for the death of another human.
Really? Think there's [i]anyone[/i], other than the terminally deranged, who'll mourn the death of Mugabe?
As for Thatcher, she may well be an irrelevance now, but the damage she did to the North-East is something I lived through and can never forgive. Childish and immature as it may be, I'll be happy when I hear that she's gone.
Oddly I would suspect the types of people who are emotionally stunted and can or did mock the dying would be Augusto Pinochet, Thatcher or her son.
Evil woman, that period was totally devoid of any human kindness and ruined the lives and futures of so many
Think the best thing that could be done is totally ignore her passing, doesn't deserve anything from this country or its people
stuartie_c - Member
One thing's for sure - it'll kick of one great big mofo of a fight on here when it does happen.
Nothing compared to the one that's going to kick off when she gets where she's going.
If it wasn't for her more TJ-like people would rule your business world.
got the bunting ready, got the fireworks ready and got my day's sicknote ready for the hangover.
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explains more adequately than I ever could how feel about her and why I WILL raise a glass when she eventually shuffles off this mortal coil - MR TURNER!!![/url]
She'll be going out happy after today. I hope a few of you economic experts get a nice boot in the financial balls before she goes.
who'll mourn the death of Mugabe?
Mourning a death is very different from wishing a death.
And for all her bad points, she was never a mass-murderer like Mugabe, Pinochet or Hitler - let's get her evil deeds in some kind of perspective shall we?
throw the body on the slag heap.
I hate all politicians but especially ones that effectively destroyed whole communities without a shadow of remorse.
The architect of today’s broken Britain, sold everything we owned for pennies and gave the key to Bank of England to "spivs and gamblers".
But Gordon Brown selling off 400 tons of gold at a quarter its current price was just fine.
And TB getting us sucked into a war in Iraq more or less on a whim was just one of those things.
And we'd all be perfectly happy if the country was run by the unions as it was back in the '70s. Coal strikes bringing down Ted Heath's government. Assembly workers at Cowley on near-permanent strike producing unusable cars. The English sickness derided across Europe.
Luked - Gordon Brown and the gold was simply not on the same scale as deliberately putting millions of people out of work to create a pool of unemployed to drive down the cost of labour.
If you think the country was run by the unions in the 70s you are sadly mistaken
The real debate is 'are you a dancer or a pisser?'
well said teej. and nutt.
And broke the backs of the unions. Good on her for that.
I used to detest the woman - still detest her memory and legacy... but as others have said, that was the Thatch of 10 Downing St., not the senile old woman of today.
Cant say I'd be bothered to "celebrate" her passing any more. A younger, less mature, darker, self always planned to get p!ssed to celebrate her descent to hell (and i'm an atheist 😉 ) - but today I wouldn't give her the credit.
I read an article on the BBC website the other day that neatly summed up Thatcher's premiership, although ironically, it was about USA today. But the American author's outsider's insight into our deeply polarised views on Thatch's Government was clearer than our own clouded worship / hate views...
[url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11564336 ]linky to BBC[/url]
When I returned in the mid-1980s for what has turned out to be forever, I saw that my old friends' attitudes had metastasized.Decline had been managed - badly. The culture wasn't so great and more than half the country seemed to be excluded from the government's concerns. Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher's loyalty question, "Is he one of us?" had been applied across the country.
Actually, Margaret Thatcher was a very pragmatic politician, but she cultivated that Iron Lady public persona - the one that said those who aren't with us, are agin' us.
Thatcher's approach foreshadowed the Bush Administration's approach to governance from 9/11 onwards. The effect in both the US and Britain was the same - a sense among almost half the population that the country was no longer theirs.
If you take away a person's sense of being part of the team they are bound to think of the time when they were part of it as being better. The team is no longer what it was. Without them it is in decline
why is it good that she broke the backs of the unions?
If you think the country was run by the unions in the 70s you are sadly mistaken
We should discuss that one over some beer and sandwiches.
EDIT: Sorry, this quote is from the Daily Mail, which I usually try to avoid, but it amused me anyway:
"Indeed, in January 1977 a Gallup opinion poll found that 54 per cent of people believed that Jones was the most powerful person in Britain, ahead of the Prime Minister James Callaghan."
All I remember from my childhood in the 70s was striking unions.
And baths by candlelight.
And having my tea cooked on a Calor gas stove.
We should discuss that one over some beer and sandwiches.
Sandwiches? Can I come? I promise I'll keep my mouth shut. I likes sandwiches I do.
It's so "of the moment" to hate her - many do without knowing any/many facts about the good things that happened under her "rule."
Oh well - usual sheep mentality rules as usual.
fanylion................is it a good thing that the working class no longer have the right or power to fight for a better living?
matt, and please name these 'good things' that happened under her rule.