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Cougar in english please.


 
Posted : 24/12/2011 7:14 pm
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Nothing to do with his sexual orientation and everything to do with his penchant for cottaging.

But most gay men don't have HIV.

And it would appear that most people who are hospitalised with pneumonia lose weight.

George Michael is gay and has been hospitalised with pneumonia. Which is the most likely cause of his weight loss ?


 
Posted : 24/12/2011 7:19 pm
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I'm assuming the amount of hash he smokes hasn't done his lungs any favours so a bout of pneumonia would be particularly bad for him.

I still reckon he has aids though.


 
Posted : 24/12/2011 7:19 pm
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But most gay men don't have HIV.

Again for the hard of reading, [b]nothing to do with his sexual orientation[/b] and everything to do with his penchant for cottaging. If he was straight and picking up women in toilets there'd still be a good chance that he'd caught something unpleasant.


 
Posted : 24/12/2011 7:29 pm
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"But most gay men don't have HIV"

So why are one of the first questions that they ask you in the GU clinic

"Have you had sex with another male"?

Like it or not, as its not politically sensitive- male/male sex has a higher risk of HIV.


 
Posted : 24/12/2011 7:31 pm
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If he was straight and picking up women in toilets there'd still be a good chance that he'd caught something unpleasant.

Straight men pick up women in toilets ? .....please explain to "the hard of reading".

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So why are one of the first questions that they ask you in the GU clinic

Yes of course, that proves that most gay men have HIV. How silly of me.


 
Posted : 24/12/2011 7:36 pm
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Straight men usaully pick women up whenever they get the chance, and some straight men also explore the bounds of their sexuality, by visiting gay cruising areas, as if they where seen in a gay club or pub fraternising with other men,it may be reported back to their partner,who will probably be female.

HIV, can be caught through intravenous drug use, anal intercourse,body fluid contamination, blood transfusions in the 90,s, thankfully not by listening to arseholes on internet forums.


 
Posted : 24/12/2011 7:44 pm
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please explain

The clue is in the first word of the line you quoted. Stop being deliberately obtuse.


 
Posted : 24/12/2011 7:48 pm
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Project. This isn't a sexuality bashing thread but by your statement (with figures) I feel compelled to defend my own GU comment. Its about a good singer. Here are some stats from the US (first hit on google). Yes STD's are on the rise in Hetrosexuals but these are DIFFERENT diseases.

http://www.avert.org/usa-transmission-gender.htm. Over half (63%) of adult and adolescent males living with an HIV diagnosis in 2008 became infected through male-to-male sexual contact, around 17% of those diagnosed were infected through injecting drug use and 12% through heterosexual contact.


 
Posted : 24/12/2011 8:27 pm
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I'm really struggling to see exactly what George Michaels sex life and possible subsequent health issues have got to do with anyone.

The only subtext I can see is 'gay man with pneumonia means he has AIDS' which, again, is nothing to do with anyone.

Give it a rest all, stop trying to justify your prurience, and please stop with the middle class attempts to decry your own prejudices.


 
Posted : 24/12/2011 8:31 pm
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Good night and happy Christmas folks


 
Posted : 24/12/2011 8:34 pm
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What is GU please?


 
Posted : 24/12/2011 8:43 pm
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Wise words Hora, peace on earth to all men, good night and God bless, have a good day tomorrow and be grateful for your health


 
Posted : 24/12/2011 8:44 pm
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I'm really struggling to see exactly what George Michaels sex life and possible subsequent health issues have got to do with anyone.

What have any celebrities' personal lives got to do with anyone? Doesn't stop Heat magazine selling by the bucketload.

Wind your neck in, I wasn't wishing illness on anyone (unlike some people in the Prince Philip thread, for instance). And you're in no position to comment on my "prejudices," I've plenty of friends with far more outlandish character traits than something as mundane as being homosexual.

But yeah. I'm not getting drawn into a pissing contest on Christmas eve, I've got mince pies to eat.

Happy Christmas to one and all.


 
Posted : 24/12/2011 8:46 pm
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What is GU please?

Genito-Urinary, or something similar.


 
Posted : 24/12/2011 8:48 pm
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[i]And you're in no position to comment on my "prejudices,"[/i]

Um, I'm seated, and browsing STW.
What more suitable position do I need to be in?

You'd be amazed how many people I look after who have pneumonia and yet don't have AIDS.... Just saying....

Happy Christmas.


 
Posted : 24/12/2011 8:49 pm
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Um, I'm seated, and browsing STW.
What more suitable position do I need to be in?

Good point, well made.

You'd be amazed how many people I look after who have pneumonia and yet don't have AIDS.... Just saying....

Well, perhaps, but how many of them are cottaging druggy celebrities? I'd wager that there's a higher hit rate in that particular little sub-demographic.


 
Posted : 24/12/2011 8:56 pm
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I wouldn't deny your lifestyle/potential disease postulation, but I feel that GM is the subject of a certain amount of homosexual=death by the bad AIDS speculation.

My feeling is that this is prejudicial to both homosexuals and those living with being HIV+ or living with AIDS. His celebrity seems to allow or enable public comment on the matter, which is, in turn, prejudicial to all those groups named above.

In tune with the Festive season, and all that it may mean to those of us with or without religion, I think we could have addressed this issue with a little more sensitivity and a bit less schadenfreude.

I see lots of people with pneumonia, and even one or two with HIV. They are still people..


 
Posted : 24/12/2011 9:06 pm
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Cougar started it SIR.


 
Posted : 24/12/2011 9:19 pm
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Mleh. I'm too drunk to be bothered now. Club TRopicana is a good tune.


 
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