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Ah yes the voice of reason is back 😉 worked out what they should be doing there yet?
Yes mike you are to supply tea and biscuits to the committee. Then when they catch the person you are to be their appointed pa.
Mikewsmith the fourms own guy that you take to work just to make him feel like their doing something important.
Yeah, let’s go back to the dark ages , travel everywhere by the power of the wind or our legs and die of starvation.
Don’t be ridiculous, we fly way too much. Are you saying that destroying the world and ourselves with climate change is a price worth paying so we can fly to Spain 4 times a year?
A number of the cancelled flights were cheap DAY trips to see Santa in Lapland. Of course, due to rising global temperatures there's no snow at all there at the moment.
We need protecting from ourselves, things like day trips to Lapland are an environmental abomination.
So still no good plan then? Just another Internet old man shouting at the sky.
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Yep he still got no plan just a poor little troll.
Should have been dealt with sooner” while providing either no suggestion or a stupid one helps to identify the people you don’t want in charge of anything.
It's the result of mixing furious googling with supreme arrogance.
so if perimeter is 10k long, you could stand 200 troops* at 50m intervals to cover the whole of it. Shirley they will get a better idea of where it’s taking off and landing etc.
Good idea, they’re sure to see something the size of a tea-tray take off a kilometre outside their perimeter line...
#rollseyes
I do wonder if it happened in any other country would there have been as much incompetence.
Like America? Of course there would, nobody has any practical experience of this type of event that would give them any advantage over what’s going on here. In the States, Individual-1 would probably bring in the National Guard, who’d cut loose with automatic weapons at anything flying that’s drone-shaped, and 1500 innocent people would end up dead or injured as collateral damage.
Of course, it could have been carried out just as effectively with no drones at all, simply some people willing to say they’d seen one.
That thought occurred to me some time ago, once a threat has been established, all that’s needed is for random anonymous people to cry wolf.
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i can take the ads, the pop ups, the shit formatting, weird classifieds and "we value your data" but im sick of seeing Mikewsmith posts
Well thanks, what's the real problem? U OK hun?
u ok Hun"
Sexist.
Get him!!!!!!!!! 😀
You got me, u OK people 😉 unless the drones did have aliens then I just got speciesist.
That idea about 200 soldiers at 50m perimeter could work if you replace the squaddies with clay pigeon shooting enthusiasts. 200 effective shotguns and sharp eyed shooters could make fantastic sport.
Good idea, they’re sure to see something the size of a tea-tray take off a kilometre outside their perimeter line…
#rollseyes
May be not the take off then, but with a person stationed every 50m around the perimeter (you know, the one where the drones are flying over ) then they have a better chance of observing where it goes after. Or do you think they are better off sat in the depatures lounge or in their little tanks
#rollseyes right back atcha
Most of the RAF would appear to be a complete waste of money.
200 effective shotguns and sharp eyed shooters could make fantastic sport.
Apart from a half decent drone would just go higher than their weapons are effective.
Most of the RAF would appear to be a complete waste of money.
Well depends what you are doing. Are we expecting to use the euro fighter against a 20kg drone?
Must cost the airport and airlines a fortune.
Apart from a half decent drone would just go higher than their weapons are effective.
I was was in a building with a load of Brimstone and Storm Shadow missiles during the week.
I imagine they’d reach?
I imagine they’d reach?
Reach yes what they going to hit 😉
Well thanks, what’s the real problem? U OK hun?
drone(s)
Interesting couple of days and I think the fallout will be massive.
All major UK airports will need proper drone counter-measures going forward as this incident has shown just how easy it is to knock out a strategic transport link, with the authorities almost powerless to stop it.
I have a feeling that the 'to dangerous to shoot it down' approach might go the same way as 'to dangerous to chase kids on stolen mopeds' if this happens again.
My daughter is convinced it was a blackmail attempt, problem getting payment so they sent another one up today to prove capability.
I say again, you’re not going to shoot down a drone with any conventional firearms...it’s hard enough to hit an aircraft that’s moving along a predictable trajectory, let alone something that’s tiny in comparison.
Something like Phalanx would work by putting up a wall of lead but that’s a terrible, terrible idea in a built up area! Im guessing the Brimstone/Stormshadow comment was tongue in cheek...but just in case, hell no! 😂 Best bet might be a DEW weapon system - google USS Ponce.
Im guessing the Brimstone/Stormshadow comment was tongue in cheek…
Tongue in cheek? .....Moi? 😉
In this forum and in this day and age, I just can’t tell anymore! 😂
Sorry if already mentioned.
Any idea what equipment the military are using as a deterrent?
Jamming electronics?? Tracking??
Any idea what equipment the military are using as a deterrent?
I could tell you, but then...
Sorry if already mentioned.
Any idea what equipment the military are using as a deterrent?
Jamming electronics?? Tracking??
Theres a pic I’ve seen with a Thule roof box on a stick.
Edit, here you go - swipe down. https://news.sky.com/story/police-hunt-drone-disruption-suspects-as-gatwick-resumes-services-11587702
Well, that was a busy day at work! Diverted to Bournemouth due to the Drone😳
Well, that was a busy day at work! Diverted to Bournemouth due to the Drone
I apologise on mikes behalf.
Theres a pic I’ve seen with a Thule roof box on a stick.
I assumed you were taking the mick initially!😆😳
A quick bit of google-fu: https://www.janes.com/article/82347/uk-signs-for-drone-dome-c-uas-system
No idea if that’s what’s being used but it can’t be far off.
^^ Good find.
We bought the system from Israel without the "hard-kill laser" capability apparently....
That might have been a bad idea after all.
It says it can use the laser to take out a drone at upto 2km!😳
Officially impressive!
Like I said, look at what the DEW on USS Ponce can do.
Way out there idea, but could you not use a mobile phone to power up a drone from anywhere in the world?
Take any nerdy 15 year old, give them soldering iron, some 26650 cells and shut them in a room for 3 hours with no internet . Yes , you can come out be online when you make my drone power up when I ring my mobile.
So when you call the phone the power to the vibrator switches a relay and the drone powers up. A pre programmed flight route is on board on already , drone takes off climbs to 200m to be above shotgun range but highly visable from the ground. Drone flies through airspace and lands on top of a huge industrial unit in eg.-nearby creepy crawly , user hangs up phone and the drone powers down.
With fairly crude low level tech you could acheive this for less than a grand, buy a burner phone with 100 hr standyby and be in a place far , far away causing maximum disruption to the Uk's second busiest airport
Disclaimer. I do not own a drone , or soldering iron.
Disclaimer. I do not own a drone
..... it's on top of an industrial unit in Crawley?
I thought the same, but even further could you use a mobile phone interface with the 'local' controller so you could even fly it remotely
Perps caught.
Way out there idea, but could you not use a mobile phone to power up a drone from anywhere in the world?
Yes. There are plenty of homebrew approaches which you could use a phone (or just wifi for).
The issue there would be the battery life.
Sounds like it was those evil cyclists to blame though. Although one who was "correctly" Hi-vis which may leave certain groups confused.
They've arrested 2 people. Maybe they didn't know any nerdy 15 year olds.
Gatwick drones: Two arrested over flight disruption http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-46657505
"confirmed sighting at 17:10."
Seems to kill the Battle of Los Angeles hypothesis.
Anyone know how the 'confirmed sighting' was obtained? It was dark so would it have been sensitive radar? Or some kind of night vision? Surely it wasn't just visible in the full moon?
And since arrests followed soon after were they able to use that same technology to follow the drone roughly to the point (or in the direction) it was retrieved from? (If so that's the 'disposable drone' hypothesis gone too, they've been retrieving it all along.)
Seems a bit dim of the perps to continue playing once The Man had installed proper tracking hardware and no longer relied on plod with binoculars?
Just trying to work out what the maximum sentence is for screwing around with airport security and the safety of airline traffic. Whatever it is, they'll be getting it!