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Thanks for info, interesting.
Although if you have invented hot swap battery stations that you can hide in the bushes I reckon red bull would be interested or maybe go pro.
Docking stations have already been done. It's not swapping a battery, it's simply a charging station. The reason it's not on any commercial drones is that there's little point outside of this use. A bit of object recognition is all you need really, and some code to get the drone to line up with the charger.
Tomorrow's papers look like they're pointing the finger at ecoloons.
Nice to see that those in charge had a plan for something like this.
Yep still a very expensive solution though, might well be the case but it's just speculation at this point.
Where as 3k on Ebay would get you enough to get you going here, when you look at inside jobs and intelligence
https://www.gatwickairport.com/flights/
You can find when any plane is going to be ready to leave, just need to pop one up when boarding is competed to nullify the air space. Rinse and repeat once you have binned the drone.
Nice to see that those in charge had a plan for something like this.
Banning drone sales? Remember this is still a country where we sell rocket propelled explosive charges to the public!!
The BBC reported about three or four days ago on public statements made by a new group called Extinction Rebellion calling for non violent direct action. It's a bit of a coincidence....
“Most drones have technology onboard that stops them flying near airports” - is that actually true?
“Most drones have technology onboard that stops them flying near airports” – is that actually true?
Yep, was reported that if it's registered and has a GPS (IE legit sold not ebay or unmodified) they have the no fly locations inbuilt and they return to owner or set down when they enter one. Hence autonomous flying is a real thing
huh, didn’t realise that
If it is eco activists, at what point do we start to support them? Scientists have been warning of impending devastation for decades and we've done sweet FA about it. What's worse in the grand scheme of things? Stopping a few thousand people from their mostly frivolous travels during the annual festival of consumerism, or the continuing destruction of the natural world?
This kind of thing is only going to ramp up in the coming years, at some point we either need to support it or accept the fact we're ****ed.
is that actually true?
I'm not sure it is. I've got a little DJI Spark and took it to the outer hebs last year. I flew it (low and close, I use it mostly like a tripod/dolly) in what is technically the Barra airport control zone. But as the tide was in I was pretty sure I was safe 😉 . The controller went a bit nuts with warnings but was happy enough for me to acknowledge them all and continue flying.
Whilst the detection / tracking systems on a Stormer would be good for this, I wouldn’t want to be the operator loosing off an HVM in London..
I cant let that go, they might call it London Gatwick, but its Brighton to all intents and purposes 🙂
I’m not sure that Barra is really the best example of an airfield you could use here 😀
If it is eco activists, at what point do we start to support them? Scientists have been warning of impending devastation for decades and we’ve done sweet FA about it. What’s worse in the grand scheme of things? Stopping a few thousand people from their mostly frivolous travels during the annual festival of consumerism, or the continuing destruction of the natural world?
Whatever device you are using to post that is obviously using electrical power of some sort. Why create extra CO2 by posting a non-essential opinion?
I’m not sure that Barra is really the best example of an airfield you could use here
It's the only one I'm daft enough to fly a drone near! 🙂
However, I'm not sure the software could tell the difference - a no fly zone is a no fly zone from what I can tell.
Maybe it knows the local tides of course......
Perfectly valid opinion, and CO2 footprint of posting said opinion has been offset by the lack of flights 😛
Google is on point tonight - now getting adverts for Twin Otter 400s
Perfectly valid opinion, and co2 footprint of posting said opinion has been offset by the lack of flights
Which is all perfect cover for when we reveal it's the work of the militant remainers
Google is on point tonight – now getting adverts for Twin Otter 400s
A lot of love for the Twotter! Not as cool as a Skyshedvan or an Islander, but still a very cool plane!
so if perimeter is 10k long, you could stand 200 troops* at 50m intervals to cover the whole of it. Shirley they will get a better idea of where it's taking off and landing etc.
* or more, probably not got much else to do 😜
but then it just won’t take off until the troops head off for Christmas
@rene59 Yeah, let's go back to the dark ages , travel everywhere by the power of the wind or our legs and die of starvation.
JP
Yeah, let’s go back to the dark ages , travel everywhere by the power of the wind or our legs and die of starvation.
Don't be ridiculous, we fly way too much. Are you saying that destroying the world and ourselves with climate change is a price worth paying so we can fly to Spain 4 times a year?
It's a question of whether or not you believe the consequences the scientists talk about. If you do, then what are you willing to do about it? If nothing personally then what will you support others doing about it? Campaigning peacefully trying to get the law changed but being ignored time after time? Taking action through your wallet and not buying goods or services from offending companies? Supporting illegal direct action to enforce change?
Given that in the UK alone there are 36,000 deaths a year put down to air pollution, at what point does direct action become self defence?
Its Christmas so another sequel to the "Die Hard" movies ?
Did somebody say you can buy rocket propelled explosive charges from somewhere??!!
I've got it. Anti-Christmas activists. Surely a cause worth supporting?
Fireworks, not RPGs.
Meh! Elf and safety gone mad..
@rene59 couldn't agree more. If this is the work of 'ecoloons' and they are taking planes out of the sky in a non violent manner then I think its amazing. Just think what a great nights sleep those on the flightpaths are getting tonight! I mean the example alk the media are giving of the kid who can't fly to Lapland for the day ....just take a minute to think that one through and its not so clear who is in the wrong here
To everyone saying about shooting it out of the sky, it isn’t going to happen. There is no way a sniper is going to be in the right place at the right time and get a safe shot off - they’re virtually impossible to hit given their size, speed and ability to move in any direction. I know of trials of multiple GPMGs set up in an AD role unable to hit a relatively static drone...it was laughable. A shotgun probably gives the best chance of any firearm but then again it’s being in the right place, right time and the drone to be low enough. Best bet is to attack it via the control channels, or by targeting the GPS (jamming/spoofing/meaconing) though each of these has their own technical challenges dependent on the drone - ie parrot can be attacked differently to DJI.
Good luck to whoever’s in charge of sorting this; quite glad it’s not my responsibility!
I dunno why people assume that everyone on a plane is doing something purposeless. I just got back from work in Amsterdam and it appeared as usual to be mostly full of people returning from work or people visiting family.
What was it you were doing that couldn't have been done remotely eg online/via Skype or by someone already in Amsterdam?
parrot can be hacked really really easily (or certainly used to be the case)
they're an open wifi, so log in and kill the main process and it plummets. or just flood wifi deauth packets. then it's up to the software on board to decide whether to land or fly home, cos the guy controlling it will never have control.
dji mavic, spark, etc. - dunno - do they use wifi for the link?
hobby drones, dji naza etc. all use RC 2.4GHz channel. you could get 150 local RC flying guys all on the airfield flying together, and still not exceed the limits of the RF channel. the planes/drones would drop out the sky by accidental airborne collisions before the digital control causes link drops and loss of control of any aircraft.
It's a good week if you've developed or invested in a company that makes expensive anti-drone product...or if you want to discredit a recently-created provocative environmental lobby that seemed to spring from nowhere.
What have our Russian cousins been up to recently?
Planes flying again, but for how long?
Hopefully long enough for my flight from Barbados to be diverted back to Gatwick instead of going to Birmingham.
11 hours late departing, luckily was able to were the day by the cruise ship pool still on my all inclusive deal 😀
It's ok Lolz Truss is on it
https://twitter.com/chunkymark/status/1075853834134712320?s=19
Is this all nonsense?
1) There's no image of the drone clear enough to identify it, in spite of a constant bunch of plane spotters at the end of the runway with expensive telephoto lenses, plus all the trapped passengers who have nothing better to do than photograph drones. (Many of whom must have expensive cameras in their bags.)
2) I used to live near the perimeter of Gatwick. It's pretty densely populated. The areas that aren't packed with people must be crawling with police and MOD. So several hours into the incident why aren't people seeing it land?
I suspect that some kids flew a drone once or twice and the rest is total fabrication/cautious aviation industry/media/mass hysteria/governmentglad to deflect attention from bad news stories.
There's a lot of fields around Gatwick - you could easily fly a drone a 1000m to get it there, doesn't need to take off from the perimeter fence.
There's a lot of approach routes that aren't publicly visible - so drones may only be seen by workers?
Will we have a load of Gatwick Drone Truthers in the future arguing the deep state was responsible as an attempt to show what a hard Brexit will be like?
Lots of green around the airport...
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Are you saying that destroying the world and ourselves with climate change is a price worth paying so we can fly to Spain 4 times a year?
I think Spain is one of the most underrated countries in Europe. Get away from the Costas and its amazing. I'd love to go 4 times a year.
I think Spain is one of the most underrated countries in Europe.
Me me too but it won’t be once climate change has done it’s worst.