Houns - Member
I've bought a ticket for MondayEngland shall either have 2 collapses or it'll be a wash out
Needless to say I'm not going tomorrow !
[url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/2638671 ]I think a draw is on the cards ![/url]
How long after they went off did it start pissing down?
Clarke was absolutely spewing and he had a point.
Clarke was absolutely spewing and he had a point.
Rubbish. He would do the same and the light meter doesn't lie, plus if the umpires have difficulty picking up the ball then they check the meter. There will be a set value where if its below then its up to the umpires.
Those are the rules
It was different last time they played here, then the bogans took the light which then set a value for the light to be offered, this came back to bite them on the arse when England later took the light (at the value they set for the match)
They grizzled a bit then too.
This ^
I disagree with the rules, at the point they went off I got the impression that it was playable but substandard, and should have been the batters call as they are the ones in most imminent danger. Then when it genuinely gets dangerous, to fielders and umpires, it becomes umpires decision. But with the rules as they stand, that as soon as it becomes dangerous at all they go off, it was beyond umpire discretion. I can understand why Clarke was spitting on it, but not worth moaning at the umpires.
Some quite spectacular whinging down here this morning 😆
As usual - everyone else's fault (special mention saved for Steward Broad), rather than just accepting that they were a bit shit at Trent Bridge, and a lot shit at Lord's, and that's why it's now very likely that England will retain the ashes at the earliest opportunity.
There was something on this morning where an Aussie accepted that they were a bit poor in 1 & 2 but now back to their best and will make a fight of it to the end....
There was a great clip when warner was asked about hooking one to root...
Whatabout the if we thrash em in the 3rd test we are gonna get **** all in ticket sales for the two final tests theory, otherwise known as lets make it exciting down to the wire for all our fans and internet experts?
Nice try, but try getting a ticket for the riverside or the oval*. They were sold out even before the boat from Australia docked.
* First 3/4 days at least - having seen how big the discrepancy was between the sides, i doubt many were daft enough to buy day 5 tickets
[quote=theotherjonv ]Nice try, but try getting a ticket for the riverside or the oval*. They were sold out even before the boat from Australia docked.
* First 3/4 days at least - having seen how big the discrepancy was between the sides, i doubt many were daft enough to buy day 5 tickets
The only tickets you can get for Sydney in the new year are restricted view or day 5, though I might look again and see if any have been returned.
This is the bit of cricket I don't understand.
So... We have to get all of Aus out then bat to bear their score by the end if the day? Or not?
The only tickets you can get for Sydney in the new year are restricted view or day 5,
You won't get those, I suspect the Aussies will all want them
So... We have to get all of Aus out then bat to bear their score by the end if the day? Or not?
Yes and no...
Option 1) neither side bowls the other out and the match is a draw. As England have already won two matches in the five match series, and if the series is drawn, the holders retain the Ashes, England would retain the Ashes
Option 2) Australia declare or are bowled out, then manage to bowl England out by close of play. Australia win the match and have a sniff of winning the Ashes if they then win at Durham and The Oval
Option 3) Australia declare or are bowled out, then England manage to get more than Australia's lead. England win the match and retain the Ashes.
Basically, to win a match you have to take 20 wickets (or the other team declares, forfeiting however many wickets were left in that innings). If noone's taken 20 wickets in five days, then it's a draw, no matter how on top one of those sides may have been. The reason a captain declares is because he considers his side to have amassed an unassailable lead, and therefore he should be using the time to try to take wickets. This can backfire, as it did against England at Adelaide in 2006, and might just do so to Australia today if we're very lucky. If it did, that would be option 3
Bit of perspective/let's not get overly cocky Zokes surely? From everything I have read this is an awful Aussie side....one of the worst ever....and yet......close match at Trent Bridge if I recall correctly (and we relied on unorthodox 😉 tactics to scrape that one), then we put them to the sword and now they are reversing the compliment albeit not quite to the same degree. So world beaters that we are, we are not exactly pounding this feeble team into submission yet. But as "Walker" Prior said (good on him) a win's a win or I don't care how the urn stays in our dressing room as long as that is where it stays (not so good in him, albeit realistic I suppose).
But even for that we will require nerve or rain today. Lets hope its the former.
Bit of perspective/let's not get overly cocky Zokes surely? From everything I have read this is an awful Aussie side....one of the worst ever....and yet......close match at Trent Bridge if I recall correctly (and we relied on unorthodox tactics to scrape that one),
I'm not being cocky. Australia are an awful side by their standards, and at Trent Bridge, England played poorly by our own standards, yet still won. The margin, just so you know, was more than the difference between when Broad should have walked, and when he was finally out, so it had no bearing on the result.
It was, however, somewhat less than it would have been if Trott hadn't wrongly been given out, and Agar's stumping had been upheld whilst he was on six. Oh, and it might not have been there at all if England hadn't had any reviews left when Haddin [i]didn't[/i] walk at the end.
But, let's not be picky eh?
Will there be any play today?
I love reading the comments on some of the bogan news sites, never seen so much whinging. Always trying to blame something else for the poor state of their cricket, the sports writers are often nearly as bad.
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This comment made me chuckle:
I think the Australian government should apply the same stall tactics when it comes to processing pom visas in Aus,.
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Somehow I doubt the poster 'pomsarecheats' is an indigenous australian 🙄 are they all thick down there?
will rain all today given what it looks like outside - no play and zero chance - chucking it down and nowt but grey skies
England will retain the ashes, the bogan pugilists will whinge but at the end of the day you don't win an ashes series by only playing well for 2 days out of 15 and not being able to take 20 wickets in a test.
England will retain the ashes, the bogan pugilists will whinge but at the end of the day you don't win an ashes series by only playing well for 2 days out of 15 and not being able to take 20 wickets in a test.
That may be so, but it's still everyone else's (and in particular, Stewart Broad's) fault 😆
And the DRS and the umpires and the doctored pitch* and the cheating English and the weather etc etc.
*what happened to all the talk about the 'funny looking pitch'? All went a bit quiet after they posted a score on it.
1050:
RESUMPTION
It's official - Australia have declared, and play will start at 1130 BST.
Have they put a roof on?
Lets be 100% honest shall we.
The series so far has been spoiled by DRS and its interpretation. England are certainly the better side but there hasn't so far been the gulf in class that so many people expected. England have bowled ok, batted poorly and have a cautious captain. Australia have batted poorly, bowled ok and have a positive leader. Both sides will be disappointed so far, England more so.
It seems fitting that the weather will probably decide this game and the series. It's likely to show decisiveness that England won't and Australia can't.
Ah FFS! Im still in bed!
It was meant to be a wash out
332 to win?
Doable. If the weather holds, that is!
1. Overcast conditions, good for swing
2. A nervous England team that'll aim to bat defensively in the gaps between the rain
3. A fired up Aussie team that'll set an attacking field from the outset
Very possible that England could lose 4 before 50... and then we'll all be praying for the deluge.
Booom!
Quite
'ello 'ello 'ello, what 'av we ere? A jolly good game of cricket, that's what! 😀
Yup, and the radar looks good for some time yet...
[quote=zokes ]Yup, and the radar looks good for some time yet...
not good then
What a waste of a review,might rue that later.
Keep the scorecard ticking over, that's the way.
England can't simply try to block their way out of this IMO.
I'm not too bothered if Australia do win this one - at least it keeps the series alive. Much better to have a result than a washout.
Despite the DRS controversy the first game was a belter.
The Aussie whining is really becoming quite amusing though. Their media and fans seem to be even more one-eyed than an England football fan.
Australians hate losing to us.
They are pretty good at it though.
And that's the 800 up <raises bat>
Root's 0 runs from the first 25 balls... finally he gets some! Whew.
1:1 in the silly review scores
That was a good review, though not in the sense of 'avoiding/overturning the howler' I'd agree
That was a good review,
No it wasn't, because:
'avoiding/overturning the howler'
is what they're for. Clarke's just wasted one of two chances he has to do so in what is an immensely important innings
Seeya later Trott 😀
Are you all praying for rain then?
To be honest, I'm hoping KP gives the innings some direction and runs start to accumulate. England are feeling the pressure alright, but this overly defensive posture just invites more pressure to be heaped on.
Are you all praying for rain then?
No, we're 2-0 up in the series. If Australia pull this one out of the hat then good on them, they still have to win the next two, which as weather is bound to come into it again, is doubtful. We've consistently been not good enough in this particular test. If I'm honest, we've hardly been brilliant as a collective unit the entire series, but we'll still probably retain the ashes from the current position
[Benaud] It's twchoo for twenty twchoo...[Benaud]
Edit: Bugger, dropped catch! Should've been [Benaud]three for twenty twchoo! [Benaud]
You've just dropped the ashes?
