Forum menu
I have a suspicion that Melisandre has to revert to "old" in order to resurrect the dead. Hence why she didn't suddenly turn old in season 4 when she took the necklace off. I doubt taking the necklace off equals instant transformation to old hag.
I have an alternative theory that she wasn't old in the first place.
The Red God has shown her that Jon Snow must live at all costs.
She's seen his dead body, brooded on it for a bit then she has used magic( or whatever) to sacrifice her own life to give it to Jon Snow. The gem in the necklace is a temporary container to transfer her life force to Jon Snow.
Maybe.
Maybe not.
Looking forward to finding out though.
Although if it were true it might support the theory that Jon is a Targaryen, except that he doesn't have the blonde hair.
It's been explicity stated in the books that Jon Snow has the dark hair and grey eyes of a Stark.
Just doesn't specify which Stark. 😉
Looking forward to finding out though.
Only 153 hours, or 9180 minutes, or just over half a million seconds to wait......
Okay PP, which other Stark might you presume it would be but Ned?
I read the books too and I'm sure Ned's brother (brandon?) was dead long before before, because Caitlin was pledged to him, as the elder Stark.
Not all Starks are men.
Google R+L=J
Okay PP, which other Stark might you presume it would be but Ned?
Jon coud be Ned's sister's child. That would give the motivation for Ned to adopt the child and bring it up as his own. We know that Ned was regarded as an honourable man by just about everyone but also that he'd be willing to call his own integrity into question for the sake of his family as he did at his own beheading.
The Internet Expert theory is that Jon Snow is the child of Lyanna Stark & Rhaegar Targaryen. Rhaegar was killed in the war between Robert & the mad king, and Lyanna killed in childbirth. Edward Stark raised the child as his Bastard to conceal the true identity. Or something like that.
love it, that fits.
So.... the ending? Jon riding one dragon and his Aunty riding another, with the wilding army at their back combined with the Seven suns and the Unsullied against the combined houses of Lannister, Greyjoy, Bolton and Martell.
??
Damn - and I thought I would be spoiler-proof as I've seen all the episodes and there are no books 🙁
I thought the ending would probably be everyone that's left uniting to fight the white walkers and the zombie army from beyond the wall. I hope there's more to it than that but it seems to be heading towards the dragons being required to defeat the undead. The dragons are set up as being uncontrollable which I guess is where Brandons abilities will be important.
[edit]
Riding the dragons into battle is a nice image too and one that mirrors the books read by Stannis Baratheon's daughter. But 3 dragons require 3 riders which should mean that there is another Targaryen (or half Targaryen) lurking about in plain sight.
Damn - and I thought I would be spoiler-proof as I've seen all the episodes and there are no books
Speculation isn't spoilers, I doubt whether anybody on here actually knows anything for sure. George Martin doesn't look like the bike riding type.
@PercyPanther - I'm aware there are some written guides to the series, but I've got an attention span of about.... Oh look, a bird!
Or the book writing type!!
I thought the ending would probably be everyone that's left uniting to fight the white walkers and the zombie army from beyond the wall. I hope there's more to it than that but it seems to be heading towards the dragons being required to defeat the undead. The dragons are set up as being uncontrollable which I guess is where Brandons abilities will be important.
That would be plausible, Tommen doesn't seem like the bad king type and now Tywin's dead and Jaime's found humility there's one nasty Lannister left and her power is very much diminished.
Riding the dragons into battle is a nice image too and one that mirrors the books read by Stannis Baratheon's daughter. But 3 dragons require 3 riders which should mean that there is another Targaryen (or half Targaryen) lurking about in plain sight.
Perhaps one dies or one isn't ridden. Although I like your idea of another Targaryen. Who is left with questionable parentage?
Where's Rickon? will he have any role at all? [b]Would have thought so, didn't he just go off with that lass?
[/b]
Who was Jon Snow's mother? (a Targaryen??? that'd be cool[b]) See above, Ned's sister. Also, what happened to Roberts b'stard?
[/b]
Will Bran be able to warg into a dragon? as well as talk through the heart trees. [b]Expect so.[/b]
What's become of Stannis? [b]Dead, confirmed by the Bolton's last night.[/b]
How will the white walkers get across the sea? [b]Boats!
[/b]
Will wal de frey get retribution for the red wedding? [b]Thought he already had or am I getting mixed up?
[/b]
What happened to Edmure Tully and Caitlin's uncle, the Blackfish?
Is Sandor Clegane (the hound) dead? [b]Not sure.[/b]
Jon, Daenerys & Bran on the dragons?
Perhaps one dies or one isn't ridden. Although I like your idea of another Targaryen. Who is left with questionable parentage?
There's probably a few options as almost anyones Father might not be who they're said to be. It's a long shot though, just pure speculation.
Who is left with questionable parentage?
You're no son of mine!
You're no son of mine!
I'm thinking along the same lines, and based on the season 6 trailer I'd even hazard a guess on how he finds out but I thought it was too big of a thing to start throwing around.
are you talking about Theon?
he's too measley to be a Targaryen.
Nope, not Theon.
Wasn't that Tywin to Tyrion? His response was "I am your son!!"
Brienne is blonde with a possible link to the Targaryen's through Dunk
Anything that causes the show to have more Brienne in it can only be a good thing.
Me and the wife are watching the previous episodes before watching the latest season, we're gonna let them build up a bit. Anyway, we just watched s03e09 .... the red weddding. In that episode Rickon goes off with the wilding woman to the domain of house Umber. I had forgotten what happened to him so there you go, whether he plays any part in the great tale I doubt it. Also in this episode Caitlin gets murdered *possible spolier alert* .. in the book they dump her body in the river and then the Brotherhood (of the lord of light) find her and bring her back to life where she appears as a cloaked woman. This hasn't happened yet in the TV series (it may not) Also to answer some of my own previous questions the Blackfish (Caitlin's uncle) goes off for a piss in the middle of the red wedding before they all get murdered so he either escaped accidently or he knows what was about to happen. I doubt he would acquiesce to the killing of his kin so he is still out there. In the books he is formidable warrior who escapes by swimming under the fence when Jaime comes to sack river run.
What a great show, I think perhaps the best there has ever been.
Can a mod put *spoilers* in the title.
Don't want to ruin that for anybody.
Hell yeah, game on 🙂
So how do we discuss that without any spoiler dropping?
Carefully
😯
I'll be revisiting here after 10pm 😀
Oof! Life and death in that episode 😯
Back in the room .
Puny man of the night's watch.
Big episode for Hodor too.
Excellent stuff! A lot of ground covered in that one!
It always bothers me when an episode starts without the full gamut of warnings, but that was a good one.
Well are we talking about it yet?
Hell of an episode, definatley don't add this to facebook unless you are watching on the day
I hope little Ramsey follows up with his plan re: Day trip north
Possibly found our 3rd dragon rider this week too
and crossover of the week
[img] 
[/img]
so here is my thoughts :
tyrion is bastard son of mad king+ lannister wife ( tywin himself spoke about mad kings hobby of f*** wifes of lords IIRC) so Tyrion is half targaryen and possibly even immune to fire as dragons let him alive.
jon snow is son of Lyanna Stark and Rhaegar. the fact that we see flashbacks of Stark family only makes it even clearer ( young Ned etc.)
Rickon was meant to go to house of Umber ( right?) but Umbers now on side of Boltons hence the gift reference in preview for next episode - Rickon being the gift to Bolton bastard possibly.
will we see a fight of boltons hounds vs direwolfs one day?
Jon Snow most likely is Azor Ahai reincarnated. Will be very interesting if his acting remains the same as being Jon Snow as we know him , or acting as completely new character.
Azor Ahai is a Westeros hero who is supposedly destined to be reborn and rescue the Seven Kingdoms from their days of darkness.
Ramsey Bolten is no Joffrey (the lack of theatrics) but I'm starting to like his management approach, nice and direct.
melisandre is 400 years old and it was her sole purpose to find new Azor Ahai. ironically she found him when she gave up.
No boobs, 2/10 crap episode
For one episode, it certainly moved on a lot of plot lines!! Now where are the White Walkers!!!!