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Old mate Hound had some good lines.
what....no CleganeBowl??
Particularly liked the hound performing the medieval version of hoofing in the slats.
Hmmm... bit disappointed by the Arya storyline.
No clever tricks: she really was that dumb, and she really was able to survive a severe gutting and then do a bit of parkour whilst presumably still buzzing from opium.
Just as well since The Waif suddenly turned into a [url=
On the other hand I think the other storylines played out pretty well and The Hound was just fantastic.
I notice that "burning cities to ash" was mentioned again... ๐
Particularly liked the hound performing the medieval version of hoofing in the slats.
that was good...especially when the guy's innards slopped out afterwards
was disappointed that we didnt see the mountain actually rip that guys head off....and are we really to believe the blackfish is no longer? we didnt see him die...even Jaime looked like he didnt believe it
So how long before Jaime has to kill Cersei do you reckon?
So how long before Jaime has to kill Cersei do you reckon?
depends on how long it takes him to get back to Kings Landing...all it will need is for Lancel Lannister to blab to him that he was also banging her
all it will need is for Lancel Lannister to blab to him that he was also banging her
I was thinking "Kingslayer Part Deux" when he gets back to find Cersei plotting to [i]burn them all[/i] with wildfire...
kiwijohn - Member
Old mate Hound had some good lines.
True but as usual Bron stole it ๐
I hope Podrick is a faster rower than Gendry.
Yeah, but Bronn didn't actually do anything. Like lopping off someones noggin or rather brutal circumcision.
I was thinking "Kingslayer Part Deux" when he gets back to find Cersei plotting to burn them all with wildfire...oh yeah...hadnt thought of that...
"You're getting old" "he's not". ๐
What was the discussion between cersei and the maester about?
What was the discussion between cersei and the maester about?
Given my current theory (see above) I took it to be about finding the hidden caches of wildfire in the city.
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6 Episode 9 "Battle of the Bastards" preview[/url]
The only thing that wasn't crap about the last episode was the hound, not enough chickens though. ๐
The Arya storyline was tosh.
It's setting her up for a big role next season presumable so they needed to finish her story before the next 2 finale episodes, so not to fussed with it. I think she's been set up for a reunion with the hound etc next season, which is interesting.
Just as well since The Waif suddenly turned into a T-1000.
๐ my thoughts exactly, bit weird!
It does at least blow the fight club theories though. Probably as above there could have been a long drawn out assassin training thing but she needs to be somewhere else shortly and the good money says North.
Season 6 Episode 9 "Battle of the Bastards" preview
Oooohh....BastardBowl....bring it on!! ๐
The Arya storyline was tosh.
Yup. A crap excuse for a story wrap-up with her opium fuelled tumbling antics and the Waifs terminator impression. Not that the action sequence itself was bad it just didn't fit and nor did the 'wandering around like I own this here town' bit from last week.
Rest of episode, 7/10. Wins points for Bronn, the Hound, the pleasing absence of Dorne, the Riverrun siege, and Hafthor pulling that guys head off. Loses points for not enough Tyrion, and Dany's continuing series of convenient Deus ex Machina appearances, quite honestly it didn't need a 2 minute siege and her turning up to save the day with the dragons, when that time could have been replaced with more Tyrion.
Hound has always had the best lines. In the aftershow show, they were doing the best double acts, but this made me spew tea out
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The Arya bit was the first time I have been disappointed with a GoT storyline. Did Jaqen H'ghar give a smile of approval when she told him her name and where she was going.
I took everything with Arya at face value last week.
Then came on here and felt very stupid for missing that her behaviour was odd, so was expecting some twist or other and came away disappointed.
Now I wish I hadn't read all your misguided suppositions ๐
It would have been much better your way though ๐
I like the Hounds comment regarding the last words before he killed that bloke, in fact that whole scene was pretty funny ๐
looked to me like a sort of nervous, apologetic smile to the viewers after having seen a couple of series worth of careful plot development totally ruined in the last few episodes! Still at least the scenes with the players have been good.Did Jaqen H'ghar give a smile of approval when she told him her name and where she was going.
mrmonkfinger
The Arya storyline was tosh.Yup. A crap excuse for a story wrap-up with her opium fuelled tumbling antics and the Waifs terminator impression. Not that the action sequence itself was bad it just didn't fit and nor did the 'wandering around like I own this here town' bit from last week.
Can't decide if it was just crap, lazy writing or if Arya's behavior was simply a way to lure the waif/faceless men out. She knew by leaving them someone would be sent to kill her, but she would never know who or when, so by making a public show she lures out her attacker and gets it over with rather than living in fear or running forever.
A question for those more knowledgable... If "a girl has no name" why isn't Jaqen H'ghar "a boy/man has no name"? He seems to have a name. And who was training ninja like assassins when he was imprisoned and carrying out assassinations on behalf of Arya?
Yep, I think that's what the directors were going for - it definitely felt like a deliberate trap at the end when she picked up Needle and put the lights out to rely on her blind training.
The problem for me is that a) She got caught out too easily on the bridge b) She was too far away from her trap and c) Surely The Waif had been through the same blind training.
also, who lit the candle?
Did Jaqen H'ghar give a smile of approval
Yep. I thought it was a nice touch.
According to D.B Weiss (on the [url=
The Episode video[/url]):
Arya is telling Jaqen, by putting this face on the wall, that "this account is settled, we're good here, and now I'm going to walk away". And I think she knows what the answer is going to be.The implication is obviously that on some level Jaqen was rooting for the outcome that he got. He may be no-one but there is still enough of a person left in him to respect and admire who this girl is and what she has become.
Arya finally tells us something that we've kind of known all along. That she's not no-one. She is Arya Stark of Winterfell.
Quite. It was all a bit convenient and quick and didn't feel as well thought through as most writing on the show.
If "a girl has no name" why isn't Jaqen H'ghar "a boy/man has no name"?
1 It's a made up name for the purpose of the mission when Arya met him.
2 He's actually just one manifestation of the many faced god and gets to do what the hell he likes.
or
3 George R R Martin is making it up as he goes along.
TBH I'm just making it up as I go along.
Are there actually any other faceless men apart from him, the Waif, and Arya? The house of faceless men was always dead empty.
Can't decide if it was just crap, lazy writing or if Arya's behavior was simply a way to lure the waif/faceless men out.
If it was the latter then how could she be sure that the Waif wouldn't just sneak up behind her and stab her in the eye? Or quietly poison her?
Seems a bit daft to rely on a trained assassin going for a surprisingly non-fatal stab. (Ignoring the fact that those wounds would have been fatal to anyone not wearing Plot Armour).
So I'm going with lazy writing from D&D.
If "a girl has no name" why isn't Jaqen H'ghar "a boy/man has no name"? He seems to have a name.
It's not his real name. It's just [i]a[/i] name - one of the faces he wears.
who was training ninja like assassins when he was imprisoned and carrying out assassinations on behalf of Arya
I believe that in the books (I've not read them) the house of Black and White has many faceless followers. They just kept it simple for the show.
lazy writing
Unfortunately it came across as this to me. So did that painful "jokes" scene with Tyrion.
Are there actually any other faceless men apart from him, the Waif, and Arya?
Always two there are. No more, no less. A Master and an Apprentice? ๐
Fair enough.
It wouldn't have been too difficult to have a few extras in the background going about the same tasks as Arya and The Waif though to give the impression that it was a bigger organisation.
I am attracted to Brienne of Tarth
hammerite - Member
A question for those more knowledgable... If "a girl has no name" why isn't Jaqen H'ghar "a boy/man has no name"? He seems to have a name. And who was training ninja like assassins when he was imprisoned and carrying out assassinations on behalf of Arya?
I'm guessing the no name thing is a means to lose yourself, and then to find yourself. The fact that Jagan has a name would suggest so. Probably means that the whole thing is more than just an assassination centre, and that that's probably just to pay the bills.
I am attracted to Brienne of Tarth
The big lad with the ginger beard is in the queue in front of you.
Don't forget that at the end of Season Two, when he left Arya, he told her that "Jaqen is dead."
In the books, It wasn't Jaqen in the House of Undying teaching Arya. I believe the TV series used him due to his previous popularity.
The Arya storyline in the books is very good, disappointed with the show.
I believe that in the books (I've not read them) the house of Black and White has many faceless followers. They just kept it simple for the show.
True that.
I'm guessing the no name thing is a means to lose yourself, and then to find yourself. The fact that Jagan has a name would suggest so. Probably means that the whole thing is more than just an assassination centre, and that that's probably just to pay the bills.
Hence why he seemed quite pleased with her little retort at the end.
I thought the whole Arya thing came across as a bit Luke Skywalker in Empire Strikes Back: Basically, training her to be of more use in the coming fight.
The whole "waif" T1000 thing was a bit weird, and ruined it; as did Arya's mysteriously quick recovery.
I'd give the episode a 7/10.