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[Closed] French Cars and Electrical Faults - Are They *Really* That Bad?

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The wife's BMW 5 series was a nightmare


 
Posted : 16/06/2015 1:40 pm
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and my 2008 3 series, steering wheel switches and reversing warnings would stop at random...

Subaru on the other hand - no issues with 3 of them. Built like brick shithouses...


 
Posted : 16/06/2015 1:58 pm
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Still waiting for Wwaswas to come in and say how good they are as I am about to buy his Grand Scenic...


 
Posted : 16/06/2015 1:58 pm
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I don't know if French cars are more susceptible to electrical faults, it's just that if the electrics do go wrong it's generally a right pain in the hoop to sort out.

Case in point was our old X-reg Clio. The immobiliser ring around the ignition barrel failed. You'd think it would be a simple case of replacing the immobliser ring, maybe £30 from autoparts?
No. In their wisdom, Renault decided to code the key, immobiliser ring, immobiliser, and the ECU together. You have to replace the whole lot. So my £300 Clio required double that to be spent for what was the failure of a sub-£50 item. I sold it instead.

disclaimer: someone may have been able to do the work cheaply, I don't know. I was told by the local garage it was a dealership job, and to prepare for a dry-bumming on the price.


 
Posted : 16/06/2015 1:59 pm
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Mate had a 205 gti years back. Perenially going wrong with varying mechanical issues.

Meanwhile, I had a 3.0 406 with as many electrics as you could get, which had nothing other than tyres and oil and whatnot for 3 years.


 
Posted : 16/06/2015 5:18 pm
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my renault trafic was an electrical mare.. les bleus and leccy trickery do not good bed fellows make


 
Posted : 16/06/2015 5:31 pm
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Buy a car with automatic gear ...


 
Posted : 16/06/2015 5:39 pm
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I've two Citroens, C4 Grand Picasso and C4 hatchback. Hatchback electric windows switch is knackered and the air con too. The GP has a utter mince electric handbrake that has cost me £600 and three trips to the dealer to not fix(brake goes on and off ok but all manner of faults light up).


 
Posted : 16/06/2015 5:49 pm
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The vw golf tdi we have is always having odd electric issues and some mechanical ones too
The citrone c2 that we've had for 10 years is perfect , it all still works nothing has fallen off inside
Had a some suspension bushes and some
Springs but nothing serious

Also have a peugeot expert van and that works fine inc the electric windows and heated mirrors

Worst car was the Audi A4 I had a few years ago constant warning lights and power loss


 
Posted : 16/06/2015 7:55 pm
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Buy a car with automatic gear ...

Yes that sounds logical. Auto box means all your electrical worrys go away.


 
Posted : 17/06/2015 7:20 am
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'So my £300 Clio'

Did you expect it to be in 100% rude health

Like a £300 VW Polo obviously would..


 
Posted : 17/06/2015 7:55 am
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had vw's, audis, toyotas and a merc and 2 citroens and 1 pug and 1 renault
the french ones were/ARE awful for electrical issues and the usual "its a common problem but you pay haahahahahaa" attitude,
no issues with vw/audi
1 issue with toyota that was a car well out of warranty but the "its a common problem and we'll fix that for you right away sir" attitude
merc - well, dont get me started - lilke french but on steriods for faults and issues - but , i didnt pay a penny to get it fixed either, and they give great courtesy cars...........

so in a word to the original title - YES


 
Posted : 17/06/2015 8:12 am
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My 06 Galaxy seems to have [s]Belgian[/s] French approach to electrics, with the airbag warning light deciding on a weekly basis to change its mind, which somehow is related to the parking sensors and rear right door central locking, which all seem related to what key we use 😕


 
Posted : 17/06/2015 8:27 am
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My 2007 Xsara Picasso was the top model so had auto lights, auto wipers and auto mirrors.

I felt abit lost when I realised I'd have to sort out my own lights and wipers after I changed cars 🙁


 
Posted : 17/06/2015 10:03 am
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In my limited experience of 1 French car, a Renault megane, it was about as good as the Honda civic that I had after. I had both from about 30k miles up to 105k. Over and above normal servicing, these were the extra items needed doing:

Megane:
3 wheel bearings and a electrical fault that made all the rear lights come on when the brake pedal was pushed. (5min fix for that).

Civic:
Front suspension arms/joints. 1 no. rear brake caliper.

I think the overall cost of the above was about the same. Maybe slightly less for the megane.


 
Posted : 17/06/2015 10:21 am
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