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😂

In Leeds so assuming it might have something to with Leeds United as well...

F2 driver Arvid Linvlad driving it.

 
Posted : 06/05/2025 10:18 pm
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Posted by: the-muffin-man

It just gets better at Alpine!…

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/articles/cm242nyd70yo

 

Ha ha, flav back in the paddock. Brilliant.

That's 5 TPs in 5 years I think.  mad way to run a team.

 

 
Posted : 06/05/2025 11:02 pm
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So I guess that means Doohan is out and Colapinto in at Alpine then.

 
Posted : 07/05/2025 12:43 am
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So, the man who received a "lifetime ban" in 2008 is going to be in charge of an F1 team again just 17 years later. Who was who said the F1 is where morals and ethics are replaced with money and power, were right on the money. What a joke. If i was Oakes I think I'd have done the same. 

 
Posted : 07/05/2025 7:17 am
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Posted by: dirkpitt74

So I guess that means Doohan is out and Colapinto in at Alpine then.

Funny thing there is, flav is doohan's manager IIRC!

 

Posted by: nickc

So, the man who received a "lifetime ban" in 2008 is going to be in charge of an F1 team again just 17 years later. Who was who said the F1 is where morals and ethics are replaced with money and power, were right on the money. What a joke. If i was Oakes I think I'd have done the same. 

Apparently the lifetime ban was overturned by a court some time afterwards.

 
Posted : 07/05/2025 9:15 am
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Also in the news yesterday was that Uncle Ben is not a fan of the cost cap and 'doesn't see the point of it'. This is the cost cap that has turned F1 teams that were worth sod-all into billion dollar companies. And created a nice closed shop that now generates more for teams and F1 than they can spend.

So yeah - no point to it as it's 'a faff' to administer.

His main gripe is probably that teams and Liberty media are getting bigger slices of the cake than the FIA.

https://apnews.com/article/f1-ben-sulayem-a6509003abc8cf260c9afa0d5d90f3ee

 
Posted : 07/05/2025 9:24 am
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Posted by: nickc

So, the man who received a "lifetime ban" in 2008 is going to be in charge of an F1 team again just 17 years later. Who was who said the F1 is where morals and ethics are replaced with money and power, were right on the money. What a joke. If i was Oakes I think I'd have done the same. 

Hasn’t Oakes been significantly linked with the Mazepins? If so then I wouldn’t assume any sort of moral yardstick there.

I am shocked that Flav hasn’t brought calm and stability to the team, though. Shocked, I tell you.

 

 
Posted : 07/05/2025 10:54 am
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As the old joke goes, an optimist is someone who takes their lunch to work.

 

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article/alpine-confirm-colapinto-to-replace-doohan-for-next-five-rounds-as-team-opt.4lH96VnGHyC45S3yjeJOMK

 
Posted : 07/05/2025 10:55 am
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A little bit of background for those - like me - who didn't know much about Colapinto before he hit F1 last season...

https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/franco-colapinto-career-long-disadvantage-now-a-huge-f1-strength/

 
Posted : 07/05/2025 1:16 pm
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Carlos Sainz Snr thinking of running for FIA president.

Sorry, link not working 

 
Posted : 08/05/2025 8:32 am
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Not sure how I feel about that. Obviously he’s a driving legend, but is there much in his CV about actually running things?

 
Posted : 08/05/2025 9:37 am
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I would imagine that all his CV needs to say is “1962–present: Not a total c***”.

 
Posted : 08/05/2025 10:10 am
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Perhaps Carlos could once again have Luis Moya as his right hand man.

 
Posted : 08/05/2025 11:31 am
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Posted by: Bez

I would imagine that all his CV needs to say is “1962–present: Not a total c***”.

That alone rules him out of the role, surely.

 

 
Posted : 08/05/2025 11:35 am
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Oakes a wrong 'un? Surely that's slander?

https://www.planetf1.com/news/oliver-oakes-dubai-williams-oakes-arrested-dmitry-mazepin

Oh, right...

 
Posted : 08/05/2025 5:56 pm
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but is there much in his CV about actually running things

 

A PhD in machiavellianism is surely the primary requirement

 
Posted : 08/05/2025 5:57 pm
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Well, erm perhaps Flavio isn’t the dodgy one this time!

 
Posted : 08/05/2025 7:07 pm
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Interesting stuff, I hadn't really been following the Mazepin stuff. Is the implication that Oakes has he legged it to Dubai to avoid questioning?

 
Posted : 08/05/2025 10:07 pm
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Slight tangent…

Anyone got any advice for buying tickets? I need to get some grandstand tickets for a race later this year but I think they’re now only available via resellers. Never bought tickets before, Any sites that I should use or not use? Any related pearls of wisdom?

 
Posted : 12/05/2025 12:13 pm
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Nice little BBC thing here that's worth a scroll through on your lunch break:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/extra/v7yykmbyey/f1-at-75-by-bbc-sport-and-getty-images

 

 
Posted : 13/05/2025 10:54 am
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I just spotted that, it's great.

 
Posted : 13/05/2025 11:26 am
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I like the 60s style helmet cam.

 

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Posted : 13/05/2025 11:28 am
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Posted by: Bez

Slight tangent…

Anyone got any advice for buying tickets? I need to get some grandstand tickets for a race later this year but I think they’re now only available via resellers. Never bought tickets before, Any sites that I should use or not use? Any related pearls of wisdom?

 

I got a lot of good info about Suzuka from F1destinations group on Facebook. There might be some info on there about buying used tickets.

 

 
Posted : 14/05/2025 7:27 pm
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Cheers. I’ve got tickets now 🙂 (Well… I’ve paid for tickets…) Monza, baby! Even bought a car to drive there in 😀

 
Posted : 14/05/2025 8:51 pm
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Nice! Where did Aston pull that performance out of!!

 

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Cheers. I’ve got tickets now 🙂 (Well… I’ve paid for tickets…) Monza, baby! Even bought a car to drive there in 😀

 

Amazing! What kind of tickets and what kind of car?!

 

 
Posted : 17/05/2025 4:48 pm
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They've brought quite a a major upgrade this weekend, which Andy Cowell says predates Adrian Newey's arrival. Also surprised to see how close Stroll has got to Alonso. 

And Albon sounding disappointed about qualifying seventh. Williams have come a long way! Sainz must be loving outqualifying the Ferraris

 
Posted : 18/05/2025 8:55 am
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Amazing! What kind of tickets and what kind of car?!

 

Grandstand 8 overlooking the Rettifilo, and an MX-5. I’ll be pootling along behind my mate’s 911 🙂

Went all in by ordering a Ferrari shirt and hat as well and evidently that’s put the curse on them this weekend!

 

 
Posted : 18/05/2025 8:55 am
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Amazing! What kind of tickets and what kind of car?!

 

Grandstand 8 overlooking the Rettifilo, and an MX-5. I’ll be pootling along behind my mate’s 911 🙂

Went all in by ordering a Ferrari shirt and hat as well and evidently that’s put the curse on them this weekend!

 

Fantastico!

 

Decent race today, not a max fan but that was perfect. Bit of luck with the SC timing and Oscar's long stop but still utterly owned it.

 

 
Posted : 18/05/2025 6:44 pm
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Also not a Max fan but watched the start - he seemed slow away from the line but STILL led out of turn one. Don't like him, but he's bloody good! 🙂 

 
Posted : 18/05/2025 9:03 pm
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Pretty good result by Albon as well. I wonder whether we could have finished 4th if he hadn't been forced wide by LeClerc...

 
Posted : 18/05/2025 9:38 pm
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Posted by: pondo

Also not a Max fan but watched the start - he seemed slow away from the line but STILL led out of turn one. Don't like him, but he's bloody good! 🙂 

Watching the replay from Russell's onboard, I think Piastri got wheelspin or made a mistake or something in the second part of the launch.  He got away well initially, then Russell and Verstappen just seemed to gain a tonne of speed on him.  It looked like Piastri then covered George and in doing so left the door wide open for Max. Great move though, really nicely done.

 

 
Posted : 18/05/2025 9:40 pm
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So Monaco this weekend, can't wait for qualifying today, not sure that the compulsory 2 stopper will spice things up tho.

 
Posted : 24/05/2025 8:15 am
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Nice to see Lando at the front again

 
Posted : 25/05/2025 1:32 pm
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Posted by: jimster01

not sure that the compulsory 2 stopper will spice things up tho.

It'll be interesting to see. One of the strategies that has been suggested is that the backmarkers make their required pitstops on lap 2 and 3, then hope for yellow flags. Nobody seems quite sure what the best strategy will be for the front runners.

 

Posted by: shermer75

Nice to see Lando at the front again

I just hope he can stay there.

 
Posted : 25/05/2025 1:43 pm
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I’m enjoying this 2 pit stop rule! 😀

 
Posted : 25/05/2025 2:33 pm
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I also like the way race control have kept the race running to avoid a red flag, which would have negated the the 2 stop rule.

 
Posted : 25/05/2025 2:42 pm
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I wish Brundle would stop moaning about it not being pure - it’s adding ‘wet race’ type interest to what is normally a procession.

 
Posted : 25/05/2025 2:50 pm
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…perhaps it is turning into a farce now!! 🤣

 
Posted : 25/05/2025 3:16 pm
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Max doesn’t even have to stop as the penalty is only 30s. Even Gran Turismo has a more sorted penalty system than that!

edit: Brundle just corrected himself, would be a DQ for deliberately skipping a stop

 
Posted : 25/05/2025 3:26 pm
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The race at the front has been as it should
Its the shenanigans in the lower half of the field which is causing the issues

 
Posted : 25/05/2025 3:27 pm
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Posted by: mashr

Max doesn’t even have to stop as the penalty is only 30s. Even Gran Turismo has a more sorted penalty system than that!

Sounds like its a DQ if you dont stop twice
They are holding out in case theres a red flag (free pitstop)

 
Posted : 25/05/2025 3:30 pm
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It was worth a try and it has created a bit more intrigue, but its a similar situation as it would have been with the old system.

If it was me i'd try (for all races):
Tyre changes under red flag conditions dont count for the rule around running 2 compounds (safety only)
Closing the pit lane in SC/VSC scenarios

Both would help the race be "on track" rather than driving around hoping for a lucky situation

 
Posted : 25/05/2025 3:37 pm
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I really enjoyed that! So much chaos. I know the purists will be fuming but as a spectator that was the most interesting Monaco for a while

 
Posted : 25/05/2025 4:07 pm
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I wonder if they’ll keep the two stop rule? That was a really enjoyable race but it did feel a little ridiculous at times. If F1 was the kind of sport where cooler heads prevailed then they’d give it about three races, with possible tweaks, to see whether it improves the show or cheapens it, but F1 is generally a dumpster fire so we all know that won’t happen

 
Posted : 25/05/2025 4:18 pm
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Closing the pit lane in SC/VSC scenarios

You can't do that as there could be "genuine" reasons for needing to pit, including an actual tyre change. 

 
Posted : 25/05/2025 4:26 pm
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Would be better, imo, if they were given a spec Monaco tyre that had 30 laps life in it max. Then they’d have to pit rather than pit for the sake of it 

 
Posted : 25/05/2025 4:31 pm
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Closing the pit lane in SC/VSC scenarios

You can't do that as there could be "genuine" reasons for needing to pit, including an actual tyre change. 

You can
They did it today when Gasley parked it in the middle of the pitlane, so there must be a provision in the rules

Theres also something similar in WEC/Indycar/NASCAR
You can always close the exit to negate any advantage in case you have to stop for "genuine" reasons

 
Posted : 25/05/2025 4:36 pm
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Posted by: shermer75
I know the purists will be fuming but as a spectator that was the most interesting Monaco for a while

No fuming round here other than at the Sky commentary team - I don't often see their coverage but IMO it's not worth paying for.

I think the race was unusually lacking full safety cars after the first couple of incidents so the lower order didn't get a chance to roll the dice and see if a random strategy paid off.

And fair play to Williams et al who used the rules to their advantage - Monaco is often about driving as slow as possible without being passed and today was no exception.

 
Posted : 25/05/2025 6:40 pm
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Monaco tyre that had 30 laps life in it

and was a third of the standard width. What was today’s overtake count?

 
Posted : 25/05/2025 7:50 pm
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If you want overtaking watch the Indy500 where it happens every other lap.

However its probably not worth watching until the last 20 laps, given the amount of cautions going on.
So many errors its looking like a club level race

 
Posted : 25/05/2025 8:23 pm
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80 laps, 20 drivers.  Each driver gets 4 laps and the driver with the lowest total time wins.  The winner of qualifying gets to choose when they take their laps, then 2nd and so on.

 

It’s a 4 lap time trial for F1.  

 
Posted : 25/05/2025 9:19 pm
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