Quite funny when Colapinto sent it down the inside of both of next year's Williams drivers 🙂
For anyone else who missed the actual move it's 0:45 in this:
Don’t screw up the press conference by swearing.
Did he screw-up the presser? I thought it was refreshingly non-corporate TBH. I'd rather drivers express themselves honestly than have them be bland and make the sorts of non-comment that you see in other sports. I don't mind the FIA having a word and saying "Can you all mind your P's & Q's please", but to try to impose a sanction is really treating them like children.
Hamilton said he hoped Max would ignore the punishment and certainly wouldn’t do it if it was him. I reckon the drivers are pretty much behind Verstappen on this.
Because they are all spoiled children! I suspect they don't like the idea that the FIA might have found a punishment that actually hurts them rather than a fine and the overreaction from the drivers will just tell the FIA they've found a way to control them. Who'd have thought that being told to do something "useful" with your time would be such a punishment. I noticed last night he was ranting that he already does useful stuff for the sport including having spent HALF AN HOUR with some junior stewards earlier this year to support their training!
Did he screw-up the presser? I thought it was refreshingly non-corporate TBH.
Its a live press conference broadcast on media around the world, including in many nations who are much more prudish than we are in the UK about swearing. The business reality of F1 is that those are particular growth markets for them. if you don't want to be in "business" of F1 then don't drive an F1 car. You can't complain your sport is too corporate when that's exactly why you make millions.
I’d rather drivers express themselves honestly than have them be bland and make the sorts of non-comment that you see in other sports.
But you don't need to say the car is "F****D" to say that there's a problem with it. Indeed it actually adds no insight to the problem. Is it handling, acceleration, breaking, etc. I get why he's not happy, when he had a great car he was winning, nor he's having to fight to be on the podium. A more mature response could have got that across without swearing, but if I was Horner I'd not be happy even if he'd said "the car just isn't right" - a bit of press training would teach him that you don't throw your team under the bus like that, especially when they are the ones tightening the bolts on your 200mph plastic box. The corporate response would have been something like "some of the changes we've made to the car this season haven't brought us the improvements we hoped they would, the guys are working really hard to try and catch up, but that is F1 - we only see how successful they've been once the lights go green. I know we will take the data from the weekend and use it to make more improvements for the next race. Its not ideal for me, but it certainly makes it more interesting for the spectators." There's loads of opportunity outside the press conference for him to show his personality.
I don’t mind the FIA having a word and saying “Can you all mind your P’s & Q’s please”,
The FIA ruling strongly suggests that all drivers have previously been warned: "But, as this topic has been raised before and is well known by the competitors, the Stewards determined to order a greater penalty than previously"
but to try to impose a sanction is really treating them like children.
Because they behave like spoilt children! Its not surprising F1 drivers behave like kids - they live in a weird bubble like premiership footballers etc, but sometimes kids need told to behave and they need some form of sanction that makes them try to avoid doing it again. Other kids watching need to see that sometimes being a smart arse isn't actually that smart.
Because they behave like spoilt children!
Do they - really!?
They may have big egos and be a bit stroppy sometimes, but compared to many sports F1 drivers live pretty clean lives.
When did you last see photos of an F1 driver falling out of a nightclub at 4am?
When did you last see photos of an F1 driver falling out of a nightclub at 4am?
Probably best to add a ‘No Kimi’ clause to that ?
Anyone who has walked around a supermarket in France thats playing the uncensored version of US and British music will know that they don't see the F word in the same way we do over on the continent.
Now I know that most of the F1 drivers are very international and should understand what words they are using but I'm not sure it really warrants all of this.
When did you last see photos of an F1 driver falling out of a nightclub at 4am?
Norris - Amsterdam in May.
Anyone who has walked around a supermarket in France thats playing the uncensored version of US and British music will know that they don’t see the F word in the same way we do over on the continent.
Well, that’s probably largely because they speak French and those who do speak English probably aren’t paying enough attention to it. I suspect they’d be less likely to play the uncensored versions of native pothymouthing.
I suspect if Gasly started describing his Alpine as “niqué” or as a “boîte de merde” you’d get a lot of raised eyebrows across the channel.
Because they are all spoiled children!
I think judging the character of any sports people let alone F1 drivers on the two or so hours of intense media scrutiny, that they're required to do under their contracts, the pressure to perform, and physical toll that the average GP weekend involves based on one driver saying the word "****ed" is probably not a good idea.
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It’s an interesting contrast with F1 (via Netflix) using Guenther Steiner’s constant barrage of f-bombs as a marketing tool to raise the profile of the sport though…
…way more than F1 has ever managed on its own.
I reckon the drivers are pretty much behind Verstappen on this
If you watch the post race FIA press conference Lando backed Max and gave very limited answers as well.
If you're Dutch the F-bomb is just another word. If you're not a native English speaker these things will happen (see Yuki's outburst)
If F1 want the drivers to be personalities then these things are going to happen and a fine would be acceptable.
Otherwise you just go back to the 2000's where Kimi would say 3 words across a whole press conference....
If you’re Dutch the F-bomb is just another word.
Honestly, think most people use it to signify that the next word in the sentence is going to be a noun.
If you’re Dutch the F-bomb is just another word
That's as maybe but he's been media trained to within an inch of his life. He knows what is expected he just doesn't want to. Definitely spitting the dummy. Why is he getting back up tacitly as it may be? Well how do you think he'd treat you if it were you between him and the wall exiting a corner?
His dad is a bellend but why would you want max to disappear ? Is it because he is good and beats your favourite driver?
A couple of months ago at Spa a huge part of the circuit was predominantly orange and I'd imagine Zandvoort would be almost all orange
I was never a fan of Michael Schumacher due to his dirty tactics but you have to have admiration for when they shine rather than he's German, Vettel another one who got stick although he was sleekit and underhand towards Mark Webber
A wee bit boring if it was all ultra rich kids Stroll, Norris , Max Chilton,Latifi,Mazepin,Zhou,Kvyat,Perez
Is it because he is good and beats your favourite driver?
Sure, he has talent but he doesn't half moan a lot....and I'm not even gonna mention his hypocrisy and dirty driving 😉
I, for one, would be more than happy if Max actually followed up his own threat and just ****ed off and took his dad with him…
this.
His antics blocking/overtaking/‘racing’ have lead in large part to new rules and new precedents, and worsened the sport imo.
This latest threat of leaving the sport because he feels persecuted just shows how petulant he is. He rubbished the car at a press conference, using the f bomb. Certainly going to motivate the mechanics and the like. The FIA reprimand him for his language, and he threatens to leave earlier.
Not like he loses a championship on the last lap of the last race because the FIA/Massi change the safety car procedure.
Talking of petulance Lewis Hamilton was all set for sacking his pilot for taking a dump in his private plane a few years back
Not just where, but when would be important surely.
"Here, you hold the stick, ah’m away fur a shite"
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Talking of petulance Lewis Hamilton was all set for sacking his pilot for taking a dump in his private plane a few years back
Would have assumed it was a normal level of professionalism for a pilot hired to fly a private jet to use the facilities at the airport beforehand rather than crimp off a length in the customer's toilet.
Would have assumed it was a normal level of professionalism for a pilot hired to fly a private jet to use the facilities at the airport beforehand rather than crimp off a length in the customer’s toilet.
I guess that depends on the length of the flight. A quick hop round Europe is a bit different to the flight to Singapore or Australia. Perhaps Lewis could order a staff loo in his next plane
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I guess that depends on the length of the flight. A quick hop round Europe is a bit different to the flight to Singapore or Australia.
Of course, but UK to Singapore is approx 50% further than Lewis jet could travel. On a journey like that you'd be stopping to refuel (and potentially change pilots) anyway. Larger planes like Max's Falcon do sometimes have a dedicated crew toilet.
Talking of petulance Lewis Hamilton was all set for sacking his pilot for taking a dump in his private plane a few years back
Sounds bobbins to me.
Mclaren have poached Red bull's chief strategist, he's going to be their new Sporting Director
I always thought that startegy was one of Red Bull's strong points
Anyone else singing 'Plan A, Plan B, Plan C, Plan D Plan Eeee' quietly to themselves now?
Very good!
I went to the F1 Exhibition at Excel yesterday, it was a good way to spend a couple of hours. Some really interesing stuff for F1 fans, including the remains of Grosjean's Haas after the crash/fireball in Bahrain - still shocking to see the replay in real time and how long he was in the middle of the fire.
Yes, I’ve been to the exhibition too - thought it was excellent! Some really nerdy stuff as well as the more exciting stuff. Grosjean’s car was startling to see for real…
They say about 2 hours, which was about right for us. There is loads to see though so could take a lot longer if you have the time!
One thing to note is that there’s almost nowhere to sit down though! So be prepared to be on your feet for ages
It's official Ricciardo is out of RB...
