doing it with Haas ahead of his teammate deserves credit
I missed what happened to Hulk as he was clear of Colapinto just before Perez & Sainz crashed.
Ah, he hit debris from the crash.
Norris and McLaren must be utterly thrilled with that result.
Norris's expression says otherwise.
You can always rely on Perez to make a balls of a good race.
Looks like the majority of the blame is with Sainz.
He was drifting into the middle of the track, crowding out Perez.
Also worth noting that with the sunset, the visibility wouldn't have been great in that section of the circuit.
Ah, he hit debris from the crash.
looks more like he was mugged by Hamilton and Bearman immediately after the crash, but before the VSC
Norris’s expression says otherwise.
He seems to have gotten over it.
https://twitter.com/McLarenF1/status/1835327617576079625
He was drifting into the middle of the track, crowding out Perez.
There you go - I saw it the other way, Perez squeezing Sainz despite there being a wall on the other side of him.
We'll see what the stewards think - they usually fall on the side of RB
You can see Sainz drifting over, Perez maintains his line. Neither are innocent, but sainz is more to blame
The stewards seem to disagree - a 50:50 - no major blame for either.
Both sides likely pissed off, but that's showbiz.
Where is Bearman from?
Born in London, but suspect he’s had a very international childhood.
Yeah...weird accent. Weirder than Lando's even
I’ve a feeling Bearman is from Chelmsford! Doesn’t sound like it though…
Is his mother Italian? Hence the non engerlish accent
He’s been a Ferrari junior for the last few years, which may have had an effect
I feel old, I'm watching Sainz and Verstappen and Magnussen and thinking 'I used to watch your dads racing' And Alex Brundell and Mick Schumacher too when they pop up.
Not quite old enough to remember Nico Rosberg's dad, or Damon Hill's or Jaques Villeneurve's, but I've seen two generations of Nakajima
Though the commentator saying F1 is closer than it’s ever been made me think “you’re a lot younger than me”.
You used to be able to measure the gaps between teams with a sundial in the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s & 90s. What era are you remembering?
You can see Sainz drifting over, Perez maintains his line. Neither are innocent, but sainz is more to blame
But Sainz was taking the normal racing line and Perez was the one who had forward visibility of the other car and had the opportunity to react, but he didn’t. Sainz never made a sudden move, and depending on which angle you watch the incident from it looks like either they both drift equally into each other or Perez is just napping and lets Sainz drift into him—it’s not as if drivers don’t squeeze each other on straights, so Perez really shouldn’t have been caught out there. The 50/50 call from the stewards seems pretty reasonable to me.
Sainz’s real mistake was in thinking he could have a pop at Leclerc: that move was never on and was only going to push him back towards Perez. So the last few hundred yards were certainly not the smartest bit of driving from Sainz, but I don’t see him as having significantly greater responsibility for the crash.
Great drive from Piastri though—another ruthless pass, and a supreme defence. Thought Leclerc’s defence from Perez at turn 1 was pretty stunning too. And a cracking job from Colapinto, emphatically vindicating Vowles’ decision in no time.
Great drive from Piastri though
Or is it another win he only got thanks to Norris helping him after the team messed up? If Norris hadn't slowed the Mexican Defence Minister and Perez had come out ahead after his stop I reckon Piastri would've struggled to pass him.
Anyhow, Singapore next where RedBull have tended to struggle in recent years. Could liven up the title fight!
Or is it another win he only got thanks to Norris helping him after the team messed up?
Piastri made the most of the opportunities that came his way. He qualified well and put in two mega laps before his pitstop to get the overcut on Perez, then he ignored his engineer's instructions to conserve his tyres and made a brilliant pass on Leclerc before the Ferrari had time to get its tyres up to temperature. That was the only real opportunity he was going to get to pass Leclerc and he seized it. He then defended brilliantly and managed to hold onto the lead. If that's not a great drive, hard to image what would count.
Norris spoiled his own weekend in Qualifying. He was lucky that after such a poor show he's closed on the leader.
Anyway, Singapore next. What's the odds on a safety car?
Sainz’s real mistake was in thinking he could have a pop at Leclerc: that move was never on and was only going to push him back towards Perez.
Agreed. That was a move from someone frustrated at losing their seat, I think
You used to be able to measure the gaps between teams with a sundial in the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s & 90s. What era are you remembering?
Monza '71 - top 5 covered by six tenths of a second.
Jarama '81 - top 5 covered by a second and a quarter.
Jerez '86 - Senna beat Mansell by 0.014 of a second. Etc. 🙂
Sainz’s real mistake was in thinking he could have a pop at Leclerc:
To misquote Senna, when you stop aiming for the gap etc etc. Had he pulled it off, everyone would be praising him for his ballsy overtake, and wondering if Ferrari were replacing the wrong driver. Brilliant drives by both the McLarens, Perez and Sainz crash seemed avoidable with hindsight.
Great race though, just highlights that tyres really shouldn't be limiting the racing. That they have to look after their tyres constantly is partly why we don't get more of this
I feel old, I’m watching Sainz and Verstappen and Magnussen and thinking ‘I used to watch your dads racing’ And Alex Brundell and Mick Schumacher too when they pop up.
Not quite old enough to remember Nico Rosberg’s dad, or Damon Hill’s or Jaques Villeneurve’s, but I’ve seen two generations of Nakajima
Also the Verstappens!
Great race, the Rookies certainly did well, usually a pay driver/rookie would have binned it long before Sainz and Perez got together. I wonder if the strategies of some teams were influenced by two new drivers on a street circuit.
Great drive by Oscar. Who knows what sainz and Perez were thinking. To crash in a straight line is more than a little careless from both of them.
What a great race.
What an absolutely stunning performance by Piastri.
Wonder how Lando feels, on the one hand he finally has a race winning car, on the other his team mate is easily the most talented new driver on the grid.
Singapore next, which is Red Bulls recent bogey track. Mclaren must be genuine favourites now for the Constructors Championship. Still can't see Lando overhauling Max though 59 points is still a big margin
Just watched the Youtube highlights again, absolutely sublime driving from Piastri. He's unbelievably cool under pressure and just perfect on the brakes. Not sure he has the outright pace to put it on pole every week but he's a brilliant racer.
To misquote Senna, when you stop aiming for the gap etc etc. Had he pulled it off, everyone would be praising him for his ballsy overtake, and wondering if Ferrari were replacing the wrong driver.
There was absolutely nothing there to pull off. He wasn’t ahead and would have had to go around the outside at turn 2 against a car with fading grip. That’s just not a move: Leclerc couldn’t have left enough space on the exit if he’d tried. Had he gone for it they’d both have been into the outside wall in tangle of wheels. Sainz is normally an outstanding race day driver but in the last few races he’s looked pretty lacklustre.
If that’s not a great drive, hard to image what would count.
No arguments that Piastri was sublime in his defence from leclerc - my comment was more that the pit wall seems to be the weak link at the moment. They've got two outstanding drivers and have developed the best car on the grid, but they have recently had to ask the drivers to get them out of problems of their own making.
Not quite old enough to remember Nico Rosberg’s dad, or Damon Hill’s.....
My Mum was a big fan of Graham. Largely due to a meeting in the car park at Oulton Park where she got me his autograph and was hugely impressed by how tidy his car boot was!
Me, I was a Jim Clark fan but there was no way you could get anywhere near him for an autograph.
Not quite old enough to remember Nico Rosberg’s dad, or Damon Hill’s…..
I was at Silverstone when Keke did that 160 mph average in quali - bit late for Graham Hill though. I think my earliest F1 memory is the squabble about the width of Hunt's car.
Not quite old enough to remember Nico Rosberg’s dad, or Damon Hill’s…
I think the earliest one that I definitely remember seeing was Mansell's losing the Championship at Adelaide when his tyre blew.
I was at Silverstone when Keke did that 160 mph average in quali
Ha! So was I. I was a schooloik though in my defence.
With all the talk of Piastri's brilliant defence, there's little of the folly of Leclerc staying 0.6 seconds behind him and cooking his tyres.
Why didn't he ease back for a lap and save some life and have a real crack. And repeat?
Me, I was a Jim Clark fan but there was no way you could get anywhere near him for an autograph.
Jim Clarks death was my JFK moment.
I think the earliest one that I definitely remember seeing was Mansell’s losing the Championship at Adelaide when his tyre blew.
Definitely a burned-on image from that era 🙂 I’m reasonably confident I recall watching Prost and Arnoux in the Renaults, which puts me at 1982, which tallies with my memory of having a poster of John Watson in the McLaren from that year on my bedroom wall. I recall few specific races from before ‘86 though.
Why didn’t he ease back for a lap and save some life and have a real crack. And repeat?
My memory may be off here (see above) but wasn’t Perez close behind him from right after the pit stops?
Are we ready for Flexi-Wing Round 2!...
Saw this crop up on twitter but now Motorsport.com have featured it if feels like the story has more weight...
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Are we ready for Flexi-Wing Round 2!…Saw this crop up on twitter but now Motorsport.com have featured it if feels like the story has more weight…
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/did-mclarens-mini-drs-rear-wing-trick-help-piastri-keep-leclerc-at-bay-in-baku/10654884//blockquote >
It's a clever solution, however, I think it's illegal. The DRS system is not only regulated by the normal 'flexiwing' rules that affect the front wing, there are specific rules about the DRS flap not being allowed to change angle without being commanded to by the electronics (assuming that is what is happening, it's hard to tell on the video where the movement actually is).
Jim Clarks death was my JFK moment.
Yes mine too. It was the end of my young self having heroes.
