Made me chuckle.
(Read this is you don't understand the joke)
https://twitter.com/f1multiviewer/status/1771041950478553340
You’d be mad not to give the car to Albon if there’s only one available
If they do that it implies Sargeant isn't good enough (which he isn't), so why does he have the seat in the first place.
...it appears Albon does have a car to drive now!
"Graceful acceptance." LOL
“This decision was not made lightly, and we cannot thank Logan enough for his graceful acceptance, demonstrating his dedication to the team; he is a true team player. This will prove a tough weekend for Williams, and this situation is not one that we will put ourselves in again.”
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Albon wrecked his car. Sargeant didn’t. Sargeant still has a car to drive, Albon doesn’t
Turns out Sargeant’s car is just a rental (to nobody’s surprise)
If they do that it implies Sargeant isn’t good enough
Every team put in that dilemma would give the car to the better driver, and every team knows who its better driver is. This is as true for Williams as it would be for RB, Mercedes or Ferrari.
In the days when they raced in black and white there were instances where a driver took their team mates car in the middle of the race, iirc Fangio won a world championship by doing that.
Makes total sense from the team's POV, but as a fan I still don't like it, just seems really harsh on LS.
I didn't like it when RB did a similar thing to Webber either but at least Webber didn't have to actually miss the race in that case!
Pragmatic decision by Vowles (i'm sure Frank would have done similar)
Not great news for Sergeant, and expecting Antonelli/Bearman to be taking that seat soon.
Also Vettel in a Porsche at Le Mans?
Porsche Motorsport on X: "#Porsche963 - Take a look at this! 😲 Stay tuned... #Raceborn #PorscheMotorsport #LMDh https://t.co/7TpsPZcrt Q" / X (twitter.com)
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Button is already driving a Porsche 963 in the WEC
Twitter is handling the Albon news well
https://twitter.com/ScrewderiaF1/status/1771164812027846689?s=20
https://twitter.com/reservedrivers/status/1771114870773334049?s=20
Here's a rule I don't know.
If something happens to Williams during the race, say it needs a new PU or gearbox or something, who's allocation does that come out of? Are they allocated per car or per driver?
I'm guessing per car as Bearman didn't get a brand new one and added some wear and tear to Carlos's? But in that case what's to stop teams swapping drivers into the other car if they have a problem at a crucial point in the championship rater than take a penalty? (Please let us have a crucial point in the championship this year 🙈)
I feel for Sargeant in this one, the writing truly is on the wall for him now.
If something happens to Williams during the race, say it needs a new PU or gearbox or something, who’s allocation does that come out of? Are they allocated per car or per driver?
Per driver, but I think relief drivers come out of the allocation of the driver they replace.
If something happens to Williams during the race, say it needs a new PU or gearbox or something, who’s allocation does that come out of? Are they allocated per car or per driver?
they’ll swap Albons components on to Sergeants chassis overnight.
Its not uncommon for drivers to use the same chassis at some point over a season.
Anyone notice Alex's halo flex/indent as he lifted himself out of the car in qualy!
I didn't see that, but the halo is titanium so it was probably just the carbon shell deflecting.
https://www.fia.com/news/how-make-f1-halo
Ahh k, didnt know they were a carbon shell over titainuim tubes
Doubt Sargeant would’ve qualified 12th.
How much does an appendix weigh? Carlos seems to have found some speed from somewhere....
Ahh k, didnt know they were a carbon shell over titainuim tubes
I think they're actually solid titanium, not a tube. There was an article somewhere about them when the Sauber on broke off a couple of years ago.
How much does an appendix weigh? Carlos seems to have found some speed from somewhere….
I actually think mentally the pressure is off Carlos and on Charles who has to prove he is the one to keep.
Wasn't it the roll hoop which broke on Zhou's Sauber? That crash at Silverstone. Took the initial impact but gave up on the second one.
Wasn’t it the roll hoop which broke on Zhou’s Sauber?
From what I remember, Sauber used a spike design rather than a hoop like the other teams. The tip of the spike dug into the ground and it was torn off the carbon fibre tub. The spike and the tub were strong enough, the failure was where they were bonded together. I think the rules were changed after that to require a hoop (which is joined to the tub in two places instead of one). Whatever the case, I think it's a solid bar of titanium, so it's quite heavy (hence a spike would shave a bit of weight from the highest point on the car).
Edit. And the same goes with the halo. I think they are a solid titanium structure covered with carbon fibre, hence quite heavy.
Actually, no, the halo is made in several pieces and then welded together. The front "v-transition" is machined from a solid piece of titanium. There are two tubular sections behind that, plus mounting brackets at the back of those. Those are all welded together then machined. The assembly weighs 7 kg, which would have cost about a quarter a second per lap.
I had a feeling I should get up!!! Awesome!!! 🤣🤣🤣
Now get a hustle on Lando - this is your chance.
The roll hoops aren’t solid either. We’ve designed and printed quite a few of them for a number of teams over the years. They have to take a given load and so are optimised for mass reduction (and other things…) whilst still being able to take those impact and shear loads.
I wonder if Ferrari are thinking they maybe letting the wrong driver go. I know Leclerc is under contract but all the same.
A good result for McLaren too, bad for Checo, and as for Mercedes 🤦
The roll hoops aren’t solid either.
Yes, I think I must have read the bit about the front part of the halo being a solid machined part and remembered it as the whole think being solid. That's a big chunk of weight to have up high, I can understand why they'd want to try to save weight, but the Sauber spike design really did seem to be asking for trouble - quite predictable that it would dig into the ground whereas a hoop would be much more likely to slide.
The truly impressive thing for me was when Grosjean's car punched through the armco and broke in half, but he walked away. Without the halo he would have been decapitated then incinerated.
A good result for McLaren too, bad for Checo, and as for Mercedes
Merc and McLaren have kinda switched positions from 12 months ago. Hopefully Merc will be able to pull the same trick of a mid-season upgrade that turns things around. Still, great to see Ferrari 1-2. Just a few years ago, I never would have imagined I'd ever say that
Lol did alonso start faking an issue when he came back round next lap and saw gr on his side?
https://twitter.com/Jeremlabase/status/1771786061917659332
Also
https://twitter.com/FStatanalysis/status/1771787318413664376
Alonso has been penalised for potentially dangerous driving.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/68649182
Disappointed in Alonso. He's one of the smartest racers around, smart enough to think about plausible deniability for lifting off early to throw off the car behind. I doubt he intended Russell to crash, but you really expect more from a multiple champion.
Personally i think it's exactly the sort of dick move I'd expect from Alonso....he's always been a conniving little git
Yay, Guenther doing the podium interviews without swearing😀
George Russell is turning into such a big whinger or as Roy Keane described Andy Robertson 3x a baby
He's constantly moaning about Lewis , he jumped out his car to "save " Gaunyu at the 2022 Silverstone GP and now he's screaming for a red flag when there are race marshalls at every part of the track and everything is filmed
His collision with Bottas when both crashed out he took no blame for that yet I think he got off lightly and blamed it all on Bottas
Ok Alonso maybe did the dirty on him today but he constantly whinges
To be fair Russel was on his side, in the middle of the track at the exit of a high speed corner.
Also does the result count a lap back from a red flag?
Personally i think it’s exactly the sort of dick move I’d expect from Alonso….he’s always been a conniving little git
His manager was Flavio Briatori, a dick of the highest order...
