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Citeh fan ( and BH&HA)
Mark Hughes - constantly whines on about how he was treated but his legancy of players was just shocking - Jo ( how much?) Roca Santa Cruz (how much),
Alan Ball - except as he is dead it is bad form
Steve McManaman, possiblt the lasiets man to ever put on a light blue shirt - other than Robbie Fowler
Robiniho - take the piss why don't you with your mate Macon
Peter Swales - need I say more , ruined the club by some dreadful business decisons
Some mexican bloke that Sven (or Hughes) signed, who played at Anfield, and really couldn't kick a ball straight. I think it was his only game- and I still don't know how he got selected
Boteang - plays well for BM and Germany, couldn't be arsed to turn up for Citeh
But by post number three...
...we have someone contributing to a football thread who knows nothing about football! You can't be part of the club without buying a season ticket? OK then...
Leeds
Players or managers I don't like - we've had a lot of rubbish through the doors in the last 10 years but the obvious highlights are:
- Bates (obviously). That said, he 'stabilised' the club but then raped it for every penny he could, as shown as the investment in the playing squad despite millions coming into the club in player sales.
- Warnock. Despise the man. Thought I'd have warmed to him a bit but absolutely clueless, bought rubbish, played rubbish, absolutely over the moon to see Colin ****er get the boot.
Players (who are still playing) I'd love to see return? Two men top the list - Max Gradel and Jermaine Beckford. As well as being a great player he showed a bit of passion for the club despite not even being there too long. Beckford, the same. Yes, he walked away at the end of his contract and has been on a downward slide ever since but what he acheived with us and the goals he scored (especially 'that' one) will never be forgotten.
I'm just glad we're playing half decent football at the moment with a good manager and a good bunch of players.
MOT
what record was that then? Spending so much money in getting promoted that the owner of the club sold up which almost led to liquidisation?
He put the club in a blender?
If the chairman let Di Canio spend money the club couldn't afford, then the fault lies with the chairman. I note that Di Canio offered to pay loan players' wages out of his own pocket.
Most people would consider promotion, a cup final and a strong league performance in the following season to be a good effort.
NUFC for me. Kenny Daglish. He inherited a pretty decent team off of Keegan that probably needed a little tinkering with and he pulled it to bits!!
I can't make my mind up with Ashley. When things seem to be going well and you think he's doing a good job he throws a massive spanner in the works. Renaming the stadium probably being the worst one closely followed by the JFK debacle.
For the love of god Davey, Beckford is an absolute shower these days.
Stay well clear of that work shy ****er.
NUFC for me. Kenny Daglish. He inherited a pretty decent team off of Keegan that probably needed a little tinkering with and he pulled it to bits!!
Oh I'd forgotten about him! I'll never forgive him for turning us into the Liverpool retirement club. Although most of my dislike of him has been erased by the superb job he did in his second stint as Liverpool manager 🙂
Right Toon fans, a few random disliked players from my years watching:
Ray Ransom
Billy Askew
Wayne Feraday
Mike Hooper
Lee Bowyer
Jean Alain Boumsong
Marcelino (injured little finger and was absent for about a year!)
Albert Luque
Michael Owen - especially Michael Owen
Didn't actually hate them all. More hated the fact that they were at our club and in many cases bleeding it dry for doing very little.
Didn't actually hate them all. More hated the fact that they were at our club and in many cases bleeding it dry for doing very little.
I hated Michael Owen with a passion that scared me at times. Even now my hackles raise when I see or hear his meaningless platitudes on the telly and radio. Damian Duff's not far behind him, for the way he celebrated when we were relegated at Aston Villa.
Ah Ray Ransom! The man who introduced SISU to my team, Coventry City.
Hedge funds? Refusal to pay rent? Relegations? Judicial reviews? Playing 'home' games 35 miles away? We've got the lot and more...
I agree on most of those slowpuncheur and especially Owen. He still doesn't seem to have a clue why he's so disliked up here!!
Here's a few more off the top of my head.
Fumaca- probably the only brazillian who couldn't play football.
Cordone
Des Hamilton.
Rob McDonald he was signed on loan from a dutch club I think. He made George Reilly look like Messi!!
Arsenal, probably Nasri, followed by Adebayor. Gallas was a jerk too.
For those defending Mike Ashley
I am not defending him. He has made some stupid decisions.
However, I think the Halls and the particularly the Sheperds did more real damage to the club and milked it for all they could. They never got a backlash like Ashley has.
Michael Owen is probably top of my list. He really doesn't seem to think he acted unprofessionally. His punditry is shit as well.
Liverpool. Michael Owen. Went to play for the scum. Nuff said. Plus Houlier valued him over Fowler, which resulted in the most boring football I've ever seen and Fowler being pushed out. Fowler was a much much better player.
Those yank clowns. And Moores and Parry for selling to them.
However, I think the Halls and the particularly the Sheperds did more real damage to the club and milked it for all they could.
Agree 100%. Although in the long run I think Ashley will take far more than they did.
They never got a backlash like Ashley has.
Not so sure on that. I never met another toon fan who had a good thing to say about Shepherd or Douglas Hall. Probably the only difference was that they at least had some ambition in terms of the football, even if they did make some catastrophically poor decisions.
John Hall understandably has some goodwill left for dragging us out of the McKeag doldrums and putting together the Keegan team.
Was never really bothered about George Graham. He did actually manage to win us a trophy in what was admittedly the dullest final ever played.
Sol - now I still hate him. Not because he went to Arsenal but the way he did it.
When I properly went I used to hate Paul Allen, everyone else thought he was wonderful, i just thought he ran round in circles.
Then there was the idiots who created the Hummell problems that meant we were so much in the shit financially we had to sell Waddle just as we were buying Lineker.
Excellent article that - anyone who thinks their club as problems should read it for some perspective, just off the scale what has happened to Coventry there.lb77 - MemberAh Ray Ransom! The man who introduced SISU to my team, Coventry City.
Hedge funds? Refusal to pay rent? Relegations? Judicial reviews? Playing 'home' games 35 miles away? We've got the lot and more...
Although reading the comments it sounds like there's a lot of blame to go round - the current capitalist pigdogs in charge are attempting to exploit a situation that was already v bad (ISTM).
Although in the long run I think Ashley will take far more than they did.
If you mean he may sell up at a big profit, that's not taking money out of the club though. AFAIK he hasn't milked things the way the previous owners did.
If he can get us in a position where somebody would want to take us over (lets all dream of a top 4! :-))and he makes a profit then I think he deserves it.
Everton fan still an old school club with an old school stadium whats is there to dislike :-), fans are very fickle great away fans but jeeze that can moan for England @ home.
Oh the idiots that changed the crest last year sack the ****ers!
Leeds again. I forgot to mention "Publicity Pete" - Ridsdale
spent far too much of somebody else's money trying to shoot the moon. Left us in a position where Bates was "the saviour"... (or so he kept telling us)
Blimey! Toon fans moaning about Mike Ashley? He looks like a kindly, generous uncle next to the rapacious corporate bastards running United. You just (deservedly) beat us at home for the first time since 1659, you're sat above us in the table, and Pardew (again deservedly) has just been judged manager of the month. I'd take that at the moment
Fair enough though… he has renamed St James the Two Tracksuits for a Tenner stadium, and appointed you a sort of foul-mouthed, delusional court jester, but you can't have everything 😉
villa - doug ellis for reasons too numerous to mention and our own fans for being the most fickle bunch of tossers in the world when the moment suits them.
If you mean he may sell up at a big profit, that's not taking money out of the club though. AFAIK he hasn't milked things the way the previous owners did.
No I'm not talking about that, I'm talking about him running the club on the minimum amount he can to simply remain in the Premier League so he can reap the tv money, make money off transfers, and use it to advertise his low-rent sportswear business. There's no ambition to do any more than that, which from a supporters point of view removes the point of it. Despite what many seem to think these days, football is still a sport (just!), and the aim of it is to try to win things and be better than your competitors. That's not what is happening at Newcastle these days, although it may sound a little rich given our recent good run and league position.
Aye things are going well at the moment binners.(BUT) We're all waiting for the next barmy decision. See my earlier comment about spanners being thrown into the works!!
God knows what he'll come up with next.
God knows what he'll come up with next.
I think we know. Cabaye will be gone in January, Ben Arfa, Krul and Tiote not far behind him, Remy won't be signed permanently. And that's probably just for starters. I hope to be proved wrong though.
dazh - I agree with you to some extent but the club isn't making any significant profit and Ashley would sell if he could. He could use the millions tied up in NUFC for much more effective marketing campaigns for his business. There are very few Premier League Clubs that make any profit at all.
There's no ambition to do any more than that
The harsh reality of modern football is that there are very few clubs that can compete with the likes of Man City, Chelsea, Arsenal and Man Utd. Ashley couldn't throw the kind of money at the club that would be required to compete for the title, he simply doesn't have it.
Luton Town here
Hate the previous owners of the club that put the club where it is now.
God knows what he'll come up with next.
You think you've got problems? We'll have a 40 year old starting a champions league match tonight. Because he's the best midfielder we've presently got. We've need to strengthen the midfield for seasons now and haven't. What worries me is that everyone is assuming Moyes will be looking to January to bring someone decent in.
Given the Glazers record, I wouldn't bank on it. They're more interested in the share price, or their next enormous 'consultancy fees' cheques, or some dodgy idea to list United on the Afghanistan stock exchange, than on our woeful position in the league 🙁
For the love of god Davey, Beckford is an absolute shower these days.Stay well clear of that work shy ****er.
Nah, its just because he'd played for crap clubs and had no service since leaving Leeds 😀
The harsh reality of modern football is that there are very few clubs that can compete with the likes of Man City, Chelsea, Arsenal and Man Utd.
This season might well be different. Things have moved on from being able to spend 150m to guarantee silverware. This might well be to do with Financial Fair Play or just a general re-adjustment of the finances of football, but I think in the top half the of the PL things are now much more competitive. From a fan's point of view, the tragic thing is that but for a little more investment in the team, Newcastle might once again be able to compete for a top 4 place, but that won't happen. Instead Ashely will probably take the view that he doesn't need to invest thanks to our good league position, and may even be able to sell a couple of our blue-chip players. It's exactly what happened after the season we finished 5th.
You think you've got problems?
Binners - I love this. You have just changed your manager after a thousand years. Did you not think there would be a drop initially?
Besides you have already qualified for the next stage of the CL, it must be terrible.
I wouldn't right Man Utd off for a top 4 finish just yet.
However, I WOULD LOVE IT, if you don't make top 4 and don't qualify for the CL next season. Then you will have problems as the financial house of cards begins to topple!
I've said in my previous posts. You can't blame Moyes. He's a good manager who needs some time. Whats coming home to roost is the Glazers creaming off hundreds of millions, year after year, while depending purely on Fergie to keep delivering trophies. The fact that he did so is a testement to just how good he is/was
The glazers expecting to keep getting away with it without him was fanciful, at best. Criminally negligent most probably. I think it might actually do the club some good in the long run, if we didn't qualify for the CL and finished mid table. What would that instigate? It would certainly shake things up. And I think most United fans would know where the blame lies. And it isn't with David Moyes.
Binners: 'criminally negligent'? Have you read that article up there about SISU and Coventry City? It makes Glazers and Ashley appear angelic.
League clubs are dying a slow death every day. The vast swathes of money in football attracts these financial speculators/gamblers/sheisters. The only way it could ever change would be if Sky/BT etc weren't confident of selling subscriptions. The whole world wants a piece of the prem now so I can't see it changing anytime soon. Accountants don't care if you win a trophy.
Gooner here. In two words, Cashley Cole. Ridiculously talented player, but execrable as an individual. Gael Clichy was a bit rude when he left also. Otherwise struggling to think of anyone I hate per se. Kind of resent the likes of RVP and Fabregas who turned their back just when we looked like we could be on the cusp of a return to the good times, but can understand why they did it and they had certainly served their time, and the club, well. Never particularly liked Nasri, but have him filed under c*ck rather than full-on hate figure. When I look further back than 2005 it is with rose tinted speccies to the great teams of the late 80s, 90s and early 2000s. Sure there were some idiots in the mix but the Arsenal have always had spirit and I guess that shone through. I suppose Bendtner is the current player we all like to dislike, but even he is more of a buffoon than a genuine bad boy 🙄
I'm a Rangers fan. Can't remember too many players who I've hated, but a couple other things immediately spring to mind.
First off, Craig Whyte and pretty much everyone currently involved in the current shambolic running of the club. Whyte started it off with the deliberate non payment of taxes, he never had the money the said he had in the first place and it was his actions that were the main factor in the club going into admin and the old company being liquidated. The current board and requisitioners aren't much better. Playing silly buggers and wasting huge amounts of cash all over the shop.
Secondly, and this makes me sad, some of our fans are ****ing morons. Bigoted imbeciles who insist on hanging on to old traditions that have no place in the game at all. Luckily a huge number of us have either moved on or never agreed with all the political and religious shit in the first place, but there's always a few loud mouthed knuckle draggers to make trouble for the club.
Oooooooo before I forget,
Alan Shearer, the face kicking prick.
slowpuncheur - I've just read it. A couple of my mates are from Cov, so I knew quite a bit about the sorry story. It has a lot of similarities to the demise, and plummet through the leagues of Portsmouth. In that the FA stood back, with its thumb up its collective arse while a succession of pretty unsavoury chancers, and outright blaggers were allowed to just get on with whatever they liked
I don't think the question was ever answered there about where all the premiership TV money, sponsorship etc all went. Because it sure the hell didn't go back into the club.
I asked the question earlier - what on earth would you have to actually do to fail the FA's 'right and proper person' test? Has anybody ever failed it. Until the FA grows a pair (which it won't) the situation will just get worse. Depressing
I could help you out with some suggestions.. 😉whatnobeer - Member
I'm a Rangers fan. Can't remember too many players who I've hated
This was about players and managers and not the owners/imbeciles/lunatics that run the clubs but hey when has a STW thread ever stayed anchored - I think it went wrong on the very first reply... is that a record?
A refreshing post from Whatnobeer! Well said.
I'm a [b]Hearts[/b] fan so no prizes for guessing who my "hate figure" is...[b]Vladimir Romanov[/b]. Short term success on the road to ruin. T**t!
Wasn't exactly jumping for joy when Graham Rix was appointed either!
I don't like the bigots who sadly are a wee part of my club too.
scandal - How dare you!
From wiki -
The referee of the game took no action against Shearer, and he was then cleared of all charges by the FA, with Lennon giving evidence in the player's defence
Besides as this you tube vid states Lennon headbutted his foot.
This was about players and managers
Everyone hates Michael Owen. What more do you want?
We'll have a 40 year old starting a champions league match tonight. Because he's the best midfielder we've presently got.
wish we had one or two of that quality*. never mind "if you're good enough, you're old enough" - "if you're good enough, you're young enough"
* OK Mowatt has been a revelation, Austin needs to stop shooting as soon as he sees the whites of their eyes & Murphy might yet be a cracker, but they ain't Giggs
Binners: Whether it's unfit and improper persons (Antonov at Pompey anyone?)the FA are in the premier league's pocket alright.
On a related point: I hate the false hope and fragile expectation in England before a World Cup or Euro Champs because we've got bugger all chance of winning anything with the FA being so weak in terms of a winter break and allowing prem managers to pull players out citing injuries, only for them to make Lazarus like recoveries for the weekend club games.
They're good for FA
In an attempt to bring some unity to this thread...
I was in the away stand at Elland Rd, and the Palace and Leeds fans were united in a rousing rendition of "Stand up, if you hate Millwall".
Now that's something we can all agree on 🙂
APF
Now that's something we can all agree on
Sort of. I must admit there's a little bit of me that likes Millwall's lawlessness and the offence that it causes.
Glad it's not my club though.
Liverpool. Joe Cole.
Re Millwall and off topic(soz)but I was a steward at the Old Den, ONCE! ha.