[Closed] Flooding

@dalesjo, the Ogwen bridge is closed. Water came through parts it shouldn't of.

I wish the press would stop showing people wading through flood water. Spectacularly manky stuff, just a few inches travelling fast can knock you over too, and never to be seen again. I'm sure they can find other thins to use as perspective.

Photos from wandering around Hebden today, including Brant checking his back passage:

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robdob It's not very bright is it especially when it normally blows drain and manhole covers and washes all sort of crap into it's path that can not be seen. And as you say it doesn't need the water to be deep to knock you of your feet.

Jeez, the conditions up North are staggering, just unbelievable amounts of water falling. Down here in the South-west it seems like it's been wet continually, but the reality is that is just been damp; I was walking over to Silbury Hill this afternoon alongside the Winterbourne, a chalk stream that, as its name implies, is dry in the summer and born again in the winter, but it's as dry as a bone right now, only one small puddle under a footbridge, which just shows the stark contrast between the South-west and North-west.
I've given a donation to the Daily Mail flood appeal, a small thing, but it's all I can really do.
I hope the million or so pounds so far raised quickly gets to those poor souls who are really suffering; it would be nice if the government were to take some of the extravagant amounts in the foreign aid budget and put it in with the flood fund.
Just thought, a close friend of mine will be traveling up to Coniston from Bath, via Bristol, Manchester and Windermere by train tomorrow; anyone got any idea how rail travel is affected from Manchester? I believe she gets a taxi from Windermere to Coniston.

Erm, shipping containers in the local river today 😯

Baildon almost shut off tonight...

Rain in the lakes today has been pretty bad. Seems like others have had it worse though. Given how it was today I can't only imagine what it was like a few weeks ago. Never seen so many massive pumps and sandbags.

Not so bad for us as we're up in Edenfield but gutted about the industrial heritage being destroyed with some of the bridges and buildings being lost - they'll never be replaced like for like.

Just hope people are keeping safe.

Just thought, a close friend of mine will be traveling up to Coniston from Bath, via Bristol, Manchester and Windermere by train tomorrow; anyone got any idea how rail travel is affected from Manchester? I believe she gets a taxi from Windermere to Coniston

major closure between crewe and stafford trains diverted while they rebuild the track also some early morning trains want run as proving trains have to go out in daylight to check track at low speeds,also sunday service so even less trains will run

I might be being daft, but where can you see predicted river details for 6am tomorrow morning? Mrs FD needs to get from Baildon to work in Wakefield and that could prove very difficult at the moment.

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There's a video of a transit drifting down the canal at Elland earlier today doing the rounds. We moved into new house 2 weeks ago... Never been flooded. Got away with it this aft... Water was a foot off the top of the flood banks at Copley, after which we'd have been swimming in the kitchen.

Scary stuff, glad you're OK.

Unclear if my folks will be able to drive back from Cardiff to Ludlow, will be watching the road updates tomorrow.

It's been insane here today. Going to go for a wander in a min to check up on how things are although there's bugger all we can do about it. Will break out the board and wetsuit tomorrow and see if I can on the news

At times like these the value of our communities wins out. My 85 yo mum spent the morning in her upstairs neighbours flat, her landlord and some other folk helped to sift through her flat to get some dry personal belongings, medications etc., the Search and Rescue Team (my team until I stood down this year) evacuated her to her landlords car, they took her to their house, looked after her - and washed her clean of manky floodwater - until i got back up from London. No end of offers of help from friends and acquaintances, and even people we don't know. We do likewise for others, mutual support builds communities. I hope everyone else who's affected has a similar experience: we're so grateful to everyone who has offered even just sympathy.

I've never know Sowerby Bridge to flood, went to a mate's house last night and woke up to find the bridge closed with no way through to Triangle. Went through all possible route variations but they all involved crossing a river, eventually got my mate to take me up over the tops and drop me down into Ripponden minus the bike as it wouldn't fit in the car. I can't even begin to imagine how the people in flooded houses feel!

My LBS is Blazing Saddles in Hebden, they'll be under water. My print guy lives next to the canal in S.B. It's Gutting 🙁

Worked on the industrial/housing project at Copley for 4 months this year. It was a crazy idea to bring thousands of tonnes of 6f2 onto what was previously a contaminated flood plain to raise the whole area and pass the problem further on down the Calder Valley.

Made some developers a fortune and got some councillors some nice kickbacks. Nobody will ever be held to account. All they'll have to say is there was a shortage of housing in the area. We put a small concession in by building a few settlement/catchment ponds to re home some frogs and direct groundwater off parts of the site, down to the river. Pay lip service to environmental factors and you'll get permission granted if there's enough money involved in the project.

Parts of our village north east of York (strensall) has flooded. Looking on the news Calderdale looks horrendous. Hope everyone is doing ok. Know a nice b&b on the canal side in Hebden bridge that will be totally thrashed by now.

[url= https://jenny4mp.wordpress.com/2014/11/02/how-come-calderdale-council-thinks-its-ok-to-build-149-new-homes-on-copley-valley-floodplain/ ]objections to building on copley valley floodplain[/url]

I guess they'll be a few local councillors not looking forward to meeting with local residents after this weekend

Those same councillors who are asking on Twitter at the moment for people to give generously to the flood appeal.

Shame they won't be asking GenR8.

I'm working on a similarly crazy project to build the Leeds-Bradford cycle superhighway with £29m European funding. Our stretch runs down Barkerend Road where things like this are a regular occurrence

I must see 6/7 cyclists a week, it could be a case of build it and they will come but you couldn't pay enough for me to ride a bike around there.

The people making these decisions need a good shake.

Who would have ever guessed that a developer called GenR8 would be a bit dodgy?!

A quick Google shows many local objections to the development at Copley, including [url= http://www.energyroyd.org.uk/archives/13080 ]this local blog highlighting issues[/url], including £6m of public money paid to GenR8 to cover site clearance, decontamination works, site investigation works and highway/junction improvement works that have been undertaken on site.

So?, new local councillors elections in the coming future perhaps?

Just heard my grandads house is flooded, he lives just off Halifax road, can't get hold of my dad but he's usually fine, thinking of leaving the family at the inlaws and trying to head over to Tod to help out but not convinced I'll get there.

Hope everyone is ok Podge. Water levels have dropped overnight but it's still a mess. There have been lot of damage to the roads, so I think you'd struggle. I definitely wouldn't attempt it with the family in the car

Apparently everyone is using the WAZE app for the most up to date info on which roads are open. Good luck!

How's things this morning over at Hebden, I've got to get back home today up to Helptonstall

Hope everyone's managed to keep dry and warm!

Roads are open in Hebden. Heading down to the town to give a hand clean up now. Will be over near Drink? then Blazing after.

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Not too bad, bit tricky using t'interwebs though.

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Cool, I'll get back and come and help with the clear up

allthepies -Not too bad, bit tricky using t'interwebs though.

Funny.

How about you go say that to the people who now have no homes or businesses.

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Cool, I'll get back and come and help with the clear up

It's looking like power should be going back on for 12 - food and clothes drop is up by the big Boots near Market Square - pretty sure anything would be appreciated.

Thanks for the concern. My grandad is up at my mum's and my uncle has checked in on the house so I know they are all fine. My dad never answers the phone so I'm less worried that I've not got hold of him, he's probably chasing ducks round the cellar.

I've downloaded waze, Thanks for the heads up on that. I've got all this week off so once I'm happy getting into the town I think I'll stay and help with everyone else

@billy when I posted about the potential impact of developments on the prior Kewick flooding thread I was ridiculed by the usual suspects. Down Soith we have numerous examples of resdiential development which have lead to flooding issues.

Best of luck to those affected

Their strongest argument was to provide housing. I live the other side of the hill and there's so many houses for sale in this village. Rush hour where they will eventually build, probably after a pause in order to secure extra funding, is ridiculous as it is. None of the housing will be anywhere near entry level because of the costs.

Not one aspect of it makes sense. It starts when some powerful developer puts an idea forward, makes some influential friends and gains that much funding it becomes unstoppable no matter how many thousands of proles object.

Just been down to Saltaire and bottom of Baildon with my son. The water has already dropped about 1.5m from high point 😯

Lots of business's completely flooded, one big retailer has apparently had a wall ripped down and now all stock gone down to Leeds 🙁

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In work trying to sort out the electricity system.

The contingencies are doing ok so far - fair number still off, but most back on.

Working on the rest and keeping an eye on York now.

Managed to drive in to Tod from the burnley side without any issues, gravel and mud all over the roads but otherwise it's fine. All family present and correct, damage to property is minimal, we've got off well considering what others have had to deal with, thanks for all the help, much appreciated.

Good news

Just come back from a road ride around Rufford and Croston. Croston is under 3ft of water again !!

They have only just finished the £4Million flood defences there, and they obviously were not enough. I feel so sorry for the folk, Christmas tress in the street and mopping up all over the village.

Rufford is the same, the river Douglas has burst it's banks

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I'm in West Lancs,I went out on the Cheshire Lines earlier today.
This is AFTER the floods receded.
I remember when this was all fields..
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Nice day for a paddle..
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Spent the last 7 hours helping dig out Blazing Saddles in Hebden with Brant, Ed, Hannah and many many other cyclists from the local area who's names I don't even know.

Support your local shops - bikes or whatever - they are going to need you more than ever or you won't have them any more.

Before and after York centre. Been told to work from home next week.

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Gregmay, came home to find myself awash, not much really just water off the hillside, so spent the afternoon sorting myself out. when I drove Heb, it looked like a watery bomb had gone off.

I'll get down tomorrow and lend a hand

Sorry in advance.

Can someone explain where the water goes. Is it supposed to just flow to the sea or soak into the ground

Thank you.

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Mostly downstream.

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from my faceybook feed

This is why you dont build on flood plains

Had a trundle out and about today.
Irwell Vale is devastated, everyones possessions piled on the gardens and some seriously glum faces, didnt take any pics as it felt too voyeuristic. Gutted for everyone down there.

Things were as bad in Strongstry and the bridge is down - see how long this takes to be replaced (if ever?)
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Ramsbottom is looking okay and the main bridge survived and is open. Nuttall Park is a mess - and the Cormar 'tunnel' route is interesting at the moment!

I bet the Waterside wishes it was this popular when it was open! - packed with people having a nosey.
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The power of water - this is a fair sized lump of stone from presumably the Waterside a fair distance downstream.
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