[Closed] F1 2016 (Bound to contain spoilers!)

I can't see DR playing second fiddle to SV at Ferrari he'd want to be No1

Exactly. He'd be hired as an equal. SV would have to either beat him or accept being number 2. Either way, Ferrari would be better off than retaining KR. Not saying that's going to happen, just that Red Bull might be worried about losing DR and wanting to make sure that JV is prepared to lead the team next year.

JV

Apparently Jos is no longer the boss. He's stepped down from managing Max, as he's "now where he should br"

well that was an exciting start

toys out the car

I am sure they will shake and make friends

Probably get away with a racing incident but he drove him off the track IMHO as that was not the natural racing line.

Well that was short and sweet.

Hehe - first GP I've watched this season.

Ooooops!

No where near the racing line. Squeezed him off.

Lauder disagrees...

[quote=zokes ]Lauder disagrees...

Niki Lauda, non-executive chairman of Mercedes, blames Lewis Hamilton for the incident that wiped the Brit and team-mate Nico Rosberg out of the Spanish Grand Prix.

"It is stupid, we could've won this race," Lauda tells BBC Radio 5 live. "Lewis is too aggressive. I need to talk to them and hear their explanation and then we will see what happens."

Only lewis' on board is going to show where he was in relation to Rosberg. Unfortunately I don't think he was [i]quite[/i] there

Lewis' fault for me - squeezed or not, he could see the direction Rosberg was going, he should've backed out.

Why was Nico on that bit of tarmac?

"too aggressive" = trying to overtake on a straight

Hamilton to Ferrari next year

Blah blah blah Karun, "yeah guys......"

Everytime yeah guys. Aaaarggggg

How do you overtake without being aggressive just out of interest?

Ask him nicely ?

How do you overtake without being aggressive just out of interest?

Wait for team orders?

I guess it depends upon at what point Rosberg moved towards the side vs where Lewis' front wing was. If rosberg was already drifting slightly then Lewis should have pulled out. If he was already alongside, even only a corner of his front wing, then Rosberg needs to be reminded of "mirror-signal-manoeuvre"

Rosberg's fault. Nowhere near the racing line (which you are allowed to defend), Rosberg was purely trying to put Hamilton on the grass.

Wait for team orders?

I think Lewis commits to that line

Rosberg sees it and moves over and then they hit- I assume lewis thinks he will leave space and by the time he realises he wont its too late to do anything.

Rosberg changes direction and does not leave space for a car.
I dont know the rules tbh as I rarely watch but it seems to me that Rosebergs move - assuming you want overtaking- is the dangerous bit

Rosberg was purely trying to put Hamilton on the grass.

I think he succeeded

Hamilton had much more momentum. Was definitely making ground.

He had so much more momentum I was wondering if Nico had missed a gear change (or deliberately lifted?)

ahhh. Rosberg uses all his boost off the line, runs out and slows up, Hamilton takes to grass to avoid ramming him up the arse...

racing incident.

I think Nico messed up and lost a lot of speed and then the move was utter desperation combined with a lack of maturity he often shows. Tempting to say why didn't Hamilton back off or switch back to the left but he was gaining far to fast, faster than would normally be expected from just a simple bit of difference from being a bit faster round a bend, and already very committed.

Rosberg should have conceded the place as he messed up, better to lose one place and live to fight back than screw up your race, let alone yours and that of your team mate.

Glad it's changed back to a precession means I've enjoyed a nap

openly glad to troll

Or, you could just do something more worthwhile with your life 💡

I'm not sure if they had not hit each other that Hamilton would have made the corner at that speed. At the very least he would have been very wide IMHO. I think the red mist descended after getting passed at the start.

n to watch him crash out, thought I'd express my delight on a public forum

You should get a hobby

brilliant!!

fairy tale for Verstappen

Great drive by by Max!!!!

I thought (and I might be wrong) that you weren't allowed to leave no room, thought you had to leave a car's width? Lewis was committed, he had to have a go, that could have been the win.

Now there's something I can celebrate with you, Joss the Boss PtII coming good already! Well done that lad

slimjim78 - Member

My hobbie is delighting in that chumps misery.

I presume you mean hobby, and I presume you mean the 3 times F1 WDC with a net worth of around £300 million "chump"

I'm not the worlds greatest Hamilton fan but I'm pretty sure he didn't get a drive in F1 for the money he brought in?

Oh and Go Max 😀

He could win 10 titles and a hundred Grand Prix, he will always be a complete chump in the eyes of anyone that considers personality as part of a persons 'great' appeal.

he will always be a complete chump in the eyes of anyone that considers personality as part of a persons 'great' appeal.

Good job you're not judged by the same high standards then, eh? 😆

😀

Great driver but a bit of a dick

I could be describing any number of drivers over the last 20 years.

Oh but my standards aren't high - this the thing.

It's true though JY, many drivers have been bobbers over the years. Some brought humour or drama into the mix though. Hammo just brings 'bling', and that 'accent'. Sorest loser I ever did see too. But, that's what makes him 'great' though eh?

Good losers are still losers. Anyone who is really competitive can say the right thing but still hates being beaten. Just look at vettels reactions in the last 3 races to having someone dare to make a move to pass him.

For me that's Hamilton's fault. Rosbergs car is heading, or at least pointing towards, the right hand side of the track before Hamilton pulled out from behind him. Hamilton was taking the previous corner wide, so maybe Rosberg saw this in his mirrors, or maybe he just anticipated Hamilton going right? Either way, he's going that way before LH moves right, so to me that was Hamilton going for a gap that was already closing or certainly about to close. Without the benefit of the telemetry of course.

How do you overtake without being aggressive just out of interest?

Lauda seems to be of the view that it was Hamiltons fault. Madness from a team perspective

All those shouting about F1 being boring & there being no overtaking over the last few years are probably the same criticising LH for attempting to over take. Thank goodness for drivers like him actually giving it a go. I also think you'll be siding with SV & having a moan at the audacity of DR for trying to over take too, the cheek of the man, how dare he! Does he think it's a race or something?

As for the incident NR leaves a Merc sized gap for a much faster LH who takes advantage, NR sees his mistake, panics & shuts the door too late, once on the grass LH is a passenger

well done mad max..super drive but tbh he was in a much improved red bull. Vettel had the luck when Ricciardo got the puncture.
The question is if Hamilton could have avoided the crash after being pushed onto the grass? He did run into Rosbergs car.

If there isnt the space do you keep your foot in and risk a crash or take another action? There are plenty of cases of the driver taking the other option to keep running ( running wide and the bleating on the radio).
This is another case of someone not yielding to Hamilton and we have seen before what the net result has been. See Button and Hamilton 2011 Montreal as another example, also see hamilton massa 2011, Rosberg Hamilton 2015

The next question is should he have been pushed there? Maybe, it is aggressive but as in other cases drivers have been equally as aggressive on track and even weaving in braking zones. Next thing people will want Maldonado to come back to spice things up with his overtaking 😉

I expect pressure for Rosberg to be penalised to close up the championship to appease the conspiracists.
They've been let off with a racing incident 🙂

Kvyat must thinking of what could' ve been.... and Sainz must be fancying a change at the RBR team

PrinceJohn - Member
Glad it's changed back to a precession

Procession !