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I agree that juries, esp in driving cases, are far too lenient/credulous/biased. More widely even but deffo with driving, I think that juries should be asked to give decisions of fact, not interpretation - "we accept that stumpyjon was travelling at 50-55 mph when his car struck the pram" Then the court should turn to EXPERT judges of driving standards and ask whether this was careless or dangerouswhere the dispute is more about whether a particular course of action was careless/dangerous rather than what action was taken, expert witnesses are commonly used by both prosecution and defence to help juries understand the point. The challenge is the legislation has what the lawyers call an objective test, but everyone else would call subjective criteria...
depending what you got the points for 6 points apparently doesn't even load your premium that much. That suggests that points aren't necessarily a good indicator of future risk. Its not unusual for death by driving offences to be someone with a clean license (but its also not unusual for others to have a spectacular driving record, or even by disqualified). There's a quite scary number of people driving whilst disqualified, revoked, or never having passed a test in the first place.I'm for mandatory black box fitment to any vehicle they're insured for, for anyone who collects 6 points in a 12 month period, too - funded by the offender.
I think the EU may already be ahead of us (or perhaps its still in the pipeline there) but many new cars do have speed, pedal, steering etc recorded and accessible to forensic crash investigators even if not required in the UK. I'm not sure many drivers are aware of thisit's been a thing for 15+ years in a lot of cars. Just keep adding finer details and more channels. It's usually civil liberty groups or antiquated legal frameworks that stop the data being used. (Or just a lack of budget)
The data gets used internally quite a lot though.
So we know that most "my car randomly accelerated, I'm going to sue" are actually people pressing their accelerator pedals flat to the floor. The rest are badly fitted/aftermarket floormats.
Good article, particularly about removing abstract concepts like 'below' or 'far below' the standards of a careful and competent driver
I think the EU may already be ahead of us (or perhaps its still in the pipeline there) but many new cars do have speed, pedal, steering etc recorded and accessible to forensic crash investigators even if not required in the UK. I'm not sure many drivers are aware of thisit's been a thing for 15+ years in a lot of cars. Just keep adding finer details and more channels. It's usually civil liberty groups or antiquated legal frameworks that stop the data being used. (Or just a lack of budget)The data gets used internally quite a lot though.
So we know that most "my car randomly accelerated, I'm going to sue" are actually people pressing their accelerator pedals flat to the floor. The rest are badly fitted/aftermarket floormats.
I think people are unaware as it’s not actually mentioned that much , I think the airbag systems record last settings nowadays but unless I’m dreaming back in the day they’d pull Ecus for crash investigation.
I suppose its usually reserved for the grim accident investigations not your car park ding.
I am surprised insurance has not made cameras virtually mandatory by discounting those with them
I suppose the issue is being able to gain meaningful value from it,insurance is only a money game not a being in the right or wrong.
Isn’t it actually the footage from other peoples cameras that actually gives the best view/context of accidents anyway ?