[Closed] Euro 2016 begins!

Good call, Nick.

Channel 990 on VM.

Finally got to catch up with this thread - agree what with is being said about England. Against teams like Slovakia we need pace & width...

Lucky we took someone other than Sterling in that position.... Oh we didn't. Crap...

I know it's easy with hindsight, but I'm surprised he's taken 5 strikers, 3 of whom are essentially the same & not taken another winger, or Andros Townsend, who has had a much better end to the season than Sterling.

Spain seem to have had a round of egg banjos just before leaving the changing room.

Ended up folding and having a bet. Which Turkey is currently breaking 🙁

I've got Spain to score two or more and 5+ corners. Glad Croatia scored, means Spain need to keep going forward.

EDIT: oops, wrong thread.

Watching England limp into second last night was as predictable as it was annoying.

Why do we consistently feel the need to play the best 11 players regardless of duplication. No-one else does! Pick your spine, pick your 2 or 3 genuine talents and pick everyone else to slot in around, give width and win the ball for the creatives.

Looking toward to us either losing to Portugual next or France in the quarters.

What. A. Load. Of. Bollocks.

The Spain away kit is horrendous.

Croatia doing very well. Can't see this game ending in a draw....although it probably will.

Goddamit, Turkey 🙁

Also, how was that penalty kick not retaken? Keeper was in Ramos' front pocket before he hit it.

Am I destined to not win a bet all tournament.......

Am I destined to not win a bet all tournament.......

Welcome to my world 😀

It has to be a Skybet conspiracy.

I've already got the 5 corners banked, I just need a goal. And they have a penalty. Which is saved by a goalie who's so far off his line that he's in the other penalty area, but the official tasked with watching the line and goal y/n can't spot it and doesn't therefore order it retaken.

Makes you think. Where's JHJ?

Skybet is run by lizard people. Confirmed.

If Spain score I get £30.

If Croatia score I get £20.

No-one will score 🙁

What a goal....Croatia have been excellent.

David De Gea's value just dived....unlike him.

Mrs Binners only put one bet on tonight. Croatia to beat Spain 😕

thanks Turkey! GAWA keep rumbling on!!

Mrs Binners only put one bet on tonight. Croatia to beat Spain

Your missus have any tips for tomorrow's matches? 8)

Spain's kit looked like a tablecloth in a Spanish restaurant after a messy meal . Great game though . Had that and the cricket on. Sports madness!

So.... Italy will win their group and their reward, a game against Spain. Maybe Roy knows something we don't?!

BlindMelon - Member

thanks Turkey! GAWA keep rumbling on!!

My old mucker is our manager so i feel compelled to watch for his sake but by fork, we play crap football.

As all the odds were rubbish on results, I've gone for daft bets today:

Muller to outscore Ireland

I bet that Wales would finish first and second in their group. I won 😀

I wish Andy Carroll had gone. He would not have been a starter but could have posed problems for the last 20 minutes against teams that park the bus (if Euro refs let him).

I have been surprised by some players - Walker very good and Alli very poor. He seems far to keen on arguing, spiteful play and daft shots. Did not see much of Spurs last season but I guess he is better than he has shown in France?

Alli has been immense all season - but once Roy gets hold of you, no player is the same.

Alli has been awesome all season - however Poch has a habit of making good players look excellent - not many of his old Southampton players (Lovren,Shaw,Lallana,Chambers,Lambert,Schneiderlin,Clyne etc) looked as good once they moved on to Liverpool/Arsenal/Man Utd etc

Not particularly insightful Gonzy....I'm sure Woy is very much aware of the need to score goals.

so...if he's ware of englands need to score goals...explain the logic of putting 2 recognised goalscorers on the pitch and then telling one of them to play out wide...so the other one goes largely unsupported?
explain why in the last 2 games he has taken off englands most effective attacking midfielder but leaving the least effective one on?
explain why after the first game he didnt realise that sterling is playing woefully?

he's not been proactive during the games...more reactive...with his experience he should be able to see how a game or performance is panning out and make the changes in advance

dont get me wrong...i want england to do well...its been long overdue but Woy needs to get the team playing more cohesively and they need to be more clinical in front of goal
he's playing too many of the front players in unfamiliar roles

if england put in a similar performance as they did against the likes of germany, france or spain..do you think they would get away with it?

 

So ireland to do the impossible today? 5-0 humping of the Italians? 😆 I guess 1-0 will do fine! 😆

I'll have a bet on the Italians. That'll give the ROI the push they need.

i'll bet on the italians too...hopefully that will jinx them 😆

Talk about shitty odds.

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I wouldn't touch that at 10-1 😀

I wonder what are the odds for Italy magically losing 3-0 tonight in the hope that Belgium get their act together?

I’m not sure you can put all the blame on Roy, the players have to do their part. I do think he made too many changes going into the last game but even then we were the best team by a distance and If Vardy had scored his guilt edge chance we’d have been laughing. We had plenty of chances to win the game against Russia as well. His substitutions have been positive on the whole (Vardy, Sturridge & Rashford) all slung on against Wales.

IMO the biggest problem is up top, none of Sturridge, Kane or Vardy know who is the 1st choice striker so every game they seem to be playing for their place, and are reacting in different ways (all negative) – Kane seems like a rabbit caught in headlights, Sturridge wants to do it all himself and Vardy doesn’t seem to know what to do if he can’t run the channels.

I’m not his biggest fan, but from the games so far only Sturridge is going to change games out of the 3, so stick him up top. Rooney in behind having a free role at No.10. Alli, Lallana and Wilshere/Henderson in behind with Dier sitting and relying on Rose and Walker to provide the width.

I wonder what are the odds for Italy magically losing 3-0 tonight in the hope that Belgium get their act together?

92.5/1.

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Almost tempted to put a tenner on. But my faith in the incorruptible nature of Italian football holds me back.

Even if Ireland somehow score 3 goals past what seems to be the meanest defence in the tournament, I am sure Belgium will cock it up.

I'd still bang a quid on it.

Even if Ireland somehow score 3 goals past what seems to be the meanest defence in the tournament,

The prospect of Spain in the next round may prompt a more experimental approach. Perhaps a 1-8-1 formation? By the look of the table, it only needs to be 2-0 with Belgium winning 1-0.

It's a myth IMO that the England strikers aren't performing the reality is they are getting awful service, Sterling is gash after all he only got 2 assists in the PL last season. Lallana is better but needs to do more to get it to the strikers, rather then shoot himself. Alli seems to be playing out of position to incorporate Rooney.

The prospect of Spain in the next round may prompt a more experimental approach. Perhaps a 1-8-1 formation? By the look of the table, it only needs to be 2-0 with Belgium winning 1-0.

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I may have got the wrong end of the stick but Italy have won the group, they can't come second, first tiebreaker is result between teams and they beat Belgium.

[i]ot particularly insightful Gonzy....I'm sure Woy is very much aware of the need to score goals.[/i]

so...if he's ware of englands need to score goals...explain the logic of putting 2 recognised goalscorers on the pitch and then telling one of them to play out wide...so the other one goes largely unsupported?
explain why....

Well, we created more than enough chances and realistically that is all you can do ...and hope some of them go in! There is also the need to blood squad players in the group stages to ensure when they are needed later (hopefully) in the comp, so they come on with a level of confidence.

I don't think he deserves criticism at this stage, as we've been a bit unlucky not to win all our games and of course hindsight is a wonderful thing! He will have learned a few things too which will help him make the right decisions in the next game.(hopefully)

mefty - Member
I may have got the wrong end of the stick but Italy have won the group, they can't come second, first tiebreaker is result between teams and they beat Belgium.

Ireland go through if they win 1-0 against italy regardless of other results., which isn't impossible if the italians are just looking for an easy run out with little effort.

all in all though a re-think is needed for the next yin I reckon, this 3rd place patter is crap.

Either 8 groups of 4, top 2 though, or stick with the 6 groups and go to straight to the quarters with the group winners plus 2 best 2nds going through... Guess the later messes with advertising revenue, so that'll not happen. But the former also messes up the qualifiers a bit. Tap 3 going though from each group... Guess Scotland might have a slight chance then at a major tourny! 😆

I don't think he deserves criticism at this stage, as we've been a bit unlucky not to win all our games and of course hindsight is a wonderful thing! He will have learned a few things too which will help him make the right decisions in the next game.(hopefully)

I agree that it's pointless to criticise at this stage, though. Roy is Roy and his limitations as a tournament coach are clear and obvious to all. It's not like Capello or someone where there was expectation that he might know what he was doing.

Rockape63 - Member
I don't think he deserves criticism at this stage, as we've been a bit unlucky not to win all our games and of course hindsight is a wonderful thing! He will have learned a few things too which will help him make the right decisions in the next game.(hopefully)

don't think he deserves criticism at this stage

I agree. It should never have got to this stage. Roy should have been sacked after the WC.

but for a last gasp goal against wales, youse would be out, atleast watching tonight keeking your drawers!

good point....but again, I don't think you can blame Woy for Joe Hart watching the big screen instead of the ball.

youse would be out

Of course the best person to judge such a thing would be a Scot 🙂