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Tommy Mair got 25000 people offering him tweets of support as a 'Hero' for killing Jo Cox
...is just awful. I find it hard to get my head around those type of people; the absence of empathy.
we had the brexiters and the press doing there very best to demonise immigrants and refugees at the time, theyve been emboldened by the toxic atmosphere thevote created and the hate crimes that increased after, another example
thankfully Bristow's comments have been given the short shrift they deserve,
Might be a looney but if some football coach was touching me when i was a kid as i got older i would have went back and sorted that poof ou
Was this all he said? Or was there more?
I got the impression he was calling football players soft for not sorting out the abuser, which can perhaps be implied from that tweet, but in isolation that tweet is not as bad as has been made out. I reckon many macho blokes on the street who haven't been the victim of abuse may think the same...
kimberswe had the brexiters and the press doing there very best to demonise immigrants and refugees at the time, theyve been emboldened the toxic atmosphere the
vote created and teh hate crimes that increased after, another examplethankfully Bristow's comments have been given the short shrift they deserve,
Hey wouldn't it be grate if there was a thread where people could discuss all this "brexit stuff" and therein they could make unhelpful sweeping generalisations about everyone who voted they way they would have voted, had they actually voted, call them racist, xenophobic child molestation endorsing bigots and in doing so we can deepen the trench between political views, shut down real debate. Isn't that a great idea? Someone should start a thread.
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I always thought Bristow had a whiff of Saville about him. A sort of sleaze that makes you shudder. Doth he protest too much?
Hey wouldn't it be grate if there was a thread where people could discuss all this "brexit stuff" and therein they could make unhelpful sweeping generalisations about everyone who voted they way they would have voted, had they actually voted, call them racist, xenophobic child molestation endorsing bigots and in doing so we can deepen the trench between political views, shut down real debate. Isn't that a great idea? Someone should start a thread.
brexiters are child molesters?
well I wouldnt go that far !!
Well said Jimjam, I get annoyed when everything gets turned into Brexshit opinions...
As for Bristow, what a horrible vile man.
Was this all he said? Or was there more?I got the impression he was calling football players soft for not sorting out the abuser, which can perhaps be implied from that tweet, but in isolation that tweet is not as bad as has been made out. I reckon many macho blokes on the street who haven't been the victim of abuse may think the same...
yeah there was plenty more and it's all out there ponline. he's deleted the tweets now but they referred variously to wimps, real men, etc etc.
The trouble is there's a lot of people who think like him, but people are having to be PC and keep their mouths shut and their opinions in the closet.
Hence why when people can do something like vote behind a closed ballot, people like Trump and Farage, get votes.
It's why a lot of the opinion polls are getting it so drastically wrong, in a poll people tell the polsters what they want to hear!
brexiters are child molesters?well I wouldnt go that far !!
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Eric Bristow is as thick as brick and no where near as useful. The thing that concerns me is he felt it ok to tweet what he did. He must mix with some right toxic idiots 🙄
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In these circumstances I try to look at what the persons intentions were rather than how inappropriate their use of words may be.
I bet there is some tension in the air over the Mr & Mrs Bristow's dinner table tonight as he has choked off his income stream.
He's on the tellybox in the morning with Piers Morgan, that'll be interesting.
Article in a local newspaper about a Syrian refugee family who had been settled locally. A year since arriving. Real success story. Good news tale. These were some of the comments on the article
Again, I can't get my head around the viewpoint of those comments. It appears so undeveloped and backward-thinking but I have a feeling it's so much more than that.
The trouble is there's a lot of people who think like him, but people are having to be PC and keep their mouths shut and their opinions in the closet
In what way is not being misogynist, racist politically correct?
It isn't politically correct, it's just 'being decent' as a person.
The trouble is there's a lot of people who think like him, but people are having to be PC and keep their mouths shut and their opinions in the closet.Hence why when people can do something like vote behind a closed ballot, people like Trump and Farage, get votes.
It's why a lot of the opinion polls are getting it so drastically wrong, in a poll people tell the polsters what they want to hear!
This is worryingly accurate IMO. I'm not for one minute defending them but there are a lot of people, dare I suggest white, male people primarily, who are not happy about a world that is changing to give others the rights and freedoms they've always enjoyed. They feel ignored and not listened to so when Trump or Farage talk their language they get voted for. It's crap and rather worrying but it's happening.
Bristow is a moron but I'd suggest he won't be without some support in his view.
I suggest white, male people primarily, who are not happy about a world that is changing to give others the rights and freedoms they've always enjoyed.
Its not rights or freedoms - its privilege. People are afraid of losing their privilege - possibly because they suspect they haven't earned it.
as above there are quite a few village idiots who also share his views, it didnt happen to them, they of course wouldnt let it happen to them by a person in power over them, but it did to quite a few lads, it altered their lives their relationships, their way of life, and only by a few speaking out will more speak out about those wrongs inflicted on themselves.
for that reason Bristow YOURE FIRED.
Its not rights or freedoms - its privilege. People are afraid of losing their privilege
You're right, better word than I came up with.
And I don't envy politicians who are stuck between doing the right thing in eroding this privilege but at the same time alienating a large part of the people who vote for them. Then someone comes along and says they'll make a Britain/USA great again (for those who feel they're losing their privilege) and they get voted in.
It's horrible.
Bristow's comments are loathsome and he is an odious individual but, regrettably, is representative of a
proportion of the UK population; to be more specific, the english population and a proportion which is more than many would wish to acknowledge.
Remove the oxygen of publicity from Bristow and others - and terminate any/all media contracts.
This will not remove the vermin or eliminate their views but it will be a start.
I have little doubt that he will have said Brexit is, in part, about reclaiming control of our own laws but when asked to state which laws he is particularly concerned about.......adopt the goldfish facial expression - mouth opens and closes but no words emerge, eyes blink blankly, no answer, don't understand the question.
Eric, why don't you just stick the dart into your eye and let us enjoy you?
He's on the tellybox in the morning with Piers Morgan, that'll be interesting.
That the Piers Morgan with the famed sense of right and wrong?
Turn *off*.
Ooh trumpy will be upset that he offered nigel the job when there is clearly a better candidate around.
“I’m not even going to address the many reasons these tweets are wrong. I’ll just say ignorance is no excuse for this idiocy,” Moore
Classy response, from Moore I thought.
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Bristow's comments are loathsome and he is an odious individual but, regrettably, is representative of a
proportion of the UK population; to be more specific, the english population and a proportion which is more than many would wish to acknowledge.
Remove the oxygen of publicity from Bristow and others - and terminate any/all media contracts.
This will not remove the vermin or eliminate their views but it will be a start.
I have little doubt that he will have said Brexit is, in part, about reclaiming control of our own laws but when asked to state which laws he is particularly concerned about.......adopt the goldfish facial expression - mouth opens and closes but no words emerge, eyes blink blankly, no answer, don't understand the question.
Eric, why don't you just stick the dart into your eye and let us enjoy you?
I would happily watch him stick a dart in his eye, but what has brexit got to do with anything that Bristow said.
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To be fair, he's going to find his revenue stream drying up very quickly, getting as much as he can now before it dries completely is not his worst idea...
Still a scrum bag mind you.
Bristow wanted £5k for a BBC interview this morning, which thankfully they refused. What a man....
"I know why I've been vilified but if one child comes forward quicker or one abuser thinks twice about the likelihood of being confronted then it will have been worth it."
ah, he was just thinking about the kids welfare all along. Bless.
Bristow wanted £5k for a BBC interview this morning, which thankfully they refused
and then he appears on ITV. Did they pay him?
Ahh, glad I missed the 70's in the UK..
What a class of homegrown nob.
"I know why I've been vilified but if one child comes forward quicker or one abuser thinks twice about the likelihood of being confronted then it will have been worth it."ah, he was just thinking about the kids welfare all along. Bless.
I know I'm possibly making the mistake of [s]over[/s]-thinking it, but how does he think belittling the people who've, very publicly, come forward, will encourage victims to come forward?
Bristow wanted £5k for a BBC interview this morning, which thankfully they refused. What a man....
Do they pay any guests and do they publicise what and who they pay?
Bristow's comments are loathsome and he is an odious individual but, regrettably, is representative of a proportion of the UK population; to be more specific, the english population and a proportion which is more than many would wish to acknowledge.
Exactly. If you go down to my local any evening, (which is by no means some type of flat-roofed shithole) you'll hear opinions exactly the same as this openly being expressed by the blokes (and they're ALWAYS blokes) sat at the bar. As well as why everything is the fault of '****'s' 'queers' and '****s. Its why I (and a lot of other people) don't go in there. I suspect though its pretty similar to a lot of peoples local boozers all over the country.
And in our brave new post-brexit world, where Nigel Farage is crowing over his 'victory', and is now setting the agenda for the party in power, these opinions are increasingly legitimised and freely, openly expressed
Do they pay any guests and do they publicise what and who they pay?
No, unless things have changed a lot since I was there. Doesn't stop the w***** asking though.
these opinions are increasingly legitimised
Legitimised is the wrong word they are no more legitimate now but people who hold them are more recently emboldened.
These types of opinions have unfortunately been legitimised. The Leave campaign cynically, in the most shameless and cavalier fashion imaginable, exploited blatantly racism sentiment to suit their own ends. And have since done absolutely nothing to change that, or the national mood ( Enemies of the People, anyone?)
These people are in government, and are crowing over the 'victory' that this casual flirting with intolerance has delivered them, and look like they're only warming to their nationalist xenophobic theme.
If that isn't legitimised then I don't know what is
None of what you said makes the word "legitimate" appropriate imo, but its a minor issue.
Remove the oxygen of publicity from Bristow and others - and terminate any/all media contracts.
This will not remove the vermin or eliminate their views but it will be a start.
Not that I'm against any of those suggestions but is that the start of the suppression of free speech? Free speech unfortunately works both ways, we have to allow comment from people we agree with and people we don't.
Can't decide if Bristow saying what he said to a wider audience is
a) good, because now a lot of people will realise the kind of person he is, or
b) bad, because he is confirming what other likeminded people also think.
We have to allow comment but we don't have to listen to it or be prevented from condemning it, either.
Rachel
We have to allow comment but we don't have to listen to it or be prevented from condemning it, either.
Completely agree.
The more stupid arguments and ideas can be refuted the better for all of us.
he is what i like to call a 'weapons grade bellend'
+1 to what breatheasy says. Look at American TV, the main broadcasters are so restricted (both by federal regulation and by fear of lawsuits or advertisers leaving) about what can be broadcast that it's incredibly bland. As a result you get the extreme right-wing shock jock stations appearing that essentially feed the intolerant views of their viewers and listeners.
Compare with the UK where national broadcasters have a freer hand and there's much less shock-jock style stations. I don't know of any but that doesn't mean there aren't any.