[Closed] Emma Way Court Update Liveish

from the tweets her testimony is all over the place,

[i]she braked and swerved to near side when she saw cyclist. Heard a clunk but saw him carry on so drove home.
she was doing about 15mph and had pulled to the nearside as far as possible. Stopped and saw she hadn't hurt cyclist
"I did not think cyclist was hurt. I definitely would have stopped. My positioning was perfect," [/i]

So did you stop or not?

[i]Referring to the word "definitely" in her tweet, Emma Way says it was "slang" and how young people talk. "It had kind of annoyed me."[/i]

ah right definitely

definitely
?d?f?n?tli/
adverb
adverb: definitely

1.
without doubt (used for emphasis).
2. slang
maybe (used to try and wriggle out of social media disaster/careless driving charge)

PS is he allowed to tweet as it happens?

I think tweets from the courtroom are allowed these days aren't they?

What is she actually charged with?

Defence solicitor Simon Nicholls tells Emma Way trial "tweet may not be accurate and truthful and may not reflect what happened that day."

so the defence is my client is a liar and you cannot believe a word she says...Interesting tactic!!

Charged with careless driving, failing to stop after an accident and failing to report an accident.

I think tweets from the courtroom are allowed these days aren't they?

yes that a juror discussing the case this a is a reporter "reporting" the case

What I find depressing, despite the number of cyclists killed in the last few weeks she thinks the worse thing has done is send a tweet.

Spot on.

Tweets are allowed from the courtroom.

I suppose it saves the disruption of reporters constantly heading outside to file copy during a case.

Don't know how he can listen properly to evidence, write his main copy and tweet simultaneously. Must be superhuman.

What I find depressing, despite the number of cyclists killed in the last few weeks she thinks the worse thing has done is send a tweet.

so the defence is my client is a liar and you cannot believe a word she says...Interesting tactic!!

yes that a juror discussing the case this a is a reporter "reporting" the case

Don't know how he can listen properly to evidence, write his main copy and tweet simultaneously. Must be superhuman.

Emma Way cleared of driving without due care and attention but convicted of failure to stop and failure to report collision.

Cleared of [s]careless[/s] driving without due care and attention. FFS

so she was cleared of driving without due care and attention

yest still managed to hit a cyclist, siiiiiiighhhhhhhhhhhhhh

She hit them deliberately then ?

FFS If she gets away with it we may as well all draw a ****ing target on our back
Depressing

Depressingly, you've got to be thinking that it's a given she's gonna walk away without any form of conviction.

So, between this and the recent tragic case near Henley, it's official - hitting something coming the other way while you're on the wrong side of the road doesn't count as careless driving.

They used to say driving is a privilege not a right, but it's fairly obvious that the converse is now true......

She'll get an mbe for services to motoring

its ****ing shocking that the case ifs you can put your vehicle on the opposite carriageway, hot someone and this is an acceptable standard of driving.

It also says they accept she hit them but that is not actually careless!!!

I am leaving before I break the swear filter

Is it acceptable for me to kill drivers, just self defence you know.

FFS!
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!

Emma Way fined £337, ordered to pay £300 and 7 points added to her licence for fail to stop and fail to report collision.

I foresee a public protest outside court.

On a more constructive note, as a sentence will be delivered that is a joke, I am going to contact legal complaints and try and lodge an appeal for screw up.

I would suggest everyone writes to as many people to get this sorted,the system sucks, but it is the system. If cyclists continue to say nothing, nothing will be done to fix the system

😯

A fine and 7 points.
FFS!

so pissed off.But not surprised. Cyclists are treated as scum in this country.

What I find depressing, despite the number of cyclists killed in the last few weeks she thinks the worse thing has done is send a tweet.

Turns out it was. 🙁

(Oh OK, not stopping to leave a piece of paper with your registration number and name of insurer on it was. closely followed by the tweet.)

[url= http://www.cps.gov.uk/westmidlands/cps_west_midlands_news/frequently_asked_questions/ ]FFS!!!!![/url]

Can the CPS appeal against the sentence imposed by the court?

There is no right of appeal against a sentence imposed by a Magistrates' Court. Whilst the CPS has no direct right of appeal against a sentence imposed by the Crown Court, the Attorney General is responsible for referring Crown Court sentences for certain serious offences to the Court of Appeal if he believes that a sentence may be unduly lenient. The power applies only to sentences that are unduly lenient and not to sentences that are simply lenient.

So the legal system is stitched up again, drivers make the rules, drivers hand out the convictions, whilst everyone suffers!!!!!

Can the CPS appeal against the sentence imposed by the court?

Ok, given that she was not convicted of careless driving logic dictates (as others have noted) that she must have hit the cyclist on purpose - so was she even being tried for an appropriate crime. Surely attempted man slaughter would be what she should be tried for.

Can the CPS appeal against the sentence imposed by the court?

[url= http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/a_to_c/appeals_to_administrative_court/ ]maybe?[/url]

I will have a proper read tonight,

It looks like lots of letters to the CPS, on the grounds on natural justice, how can you be driving safely and hit someone on the other side of the road, might be the only shot.

Have you seen the bbc website? Idiots. They make it sound like justice has been done.

only thing I can think of is the cyclist was in primary so magistrates reckon he is partly/wholly to blame and poor Emma has just been a bit silly not stopping. if so a nice bit of victim blaming going on. ****s

Erm - it turns out the deleted account could be re-enabled...

@EmmaWay20 now belongs to me.

What should we say??

Rachel (not Emma)

What, this?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-25000788

Straight factual report of proceedings, as far as I can see. Unless they were supposed to draw devil horns on her picture.

Yes, that Emma...

just read the bbc report, WTF is the prosector on about!!! FFS a routine hit and run, just one of those Fing things!!!!!! I am even more pissed off that the bloke who is meant to argue she should be punished obviously doesn't give a *

I think she should appeal. How can she be done for failing to report? She tweeted about it!! 👿

@Rachel

Have fun with it - don't be too obvious, build up slowly!

[i] ?@benjkendall 1m

Emma Way refused to comment as she left court, saying she had signed an exclusive TV deal.[/i]

good grief.

Straight factual report of proceedings, as far as I can see. Unless they were supposed to draw devil horns on her picture.

+1

Must be knocking on 30 years back now,we had a motorist on the wrong side of the road who had a head on with a motorbike.
He was killed and the motorist was freed as "she had suffered enough with the guilt".
So today is nothing new.

@allthegear,

How about some helpful tips to drivers, if involved in a RTA remember to stop at the scene but never try and avoid a cyclist, aim for them it is the safest thing to do.

This is ridiculous. What the hell is going on? I'm going to find out who the Magistrate is and write to complain. I'm really annoyed.

I'm going to write to 'Call me Dave' too - let's see if we really are "All in this together".

Even worse, that odious piece of air-brained trash will be cock-a-hoop about getting away with it.

**** it.

saying she had signed an exclusive TV deal.

I didn't think you could profit from criminal actions, although I'm guessing driving offences don't count...

It would appear that sentance is broadly in line with guidlines if this is to be believed

I guess the issue is that they couldn't prove careless driving, but did sentance with what was beyond doubt.

Lets hope she's got other points and she gets banned ASAP

The sad thing is, that she actually got a bigger fine and more points than some drivers get for killing cyclists!