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It must have been something like that.
So why have I just discovered Metallica?
At 67?
I can live with a future obsession with roadworks discussions. I can live with forgetting where I put stuff. I can even wear the beige piss stained trousers. But if I have to listen to Metallica in my dotage I might just end it now.
If you think Metallica are good wait until you hear some decent heavy metal bands.
Ouch - TBF there’s nothing wrong with Metallica - any opinion on ‘better’ rock bands is just subjective. (I’m more of a Sabbath / Maiden / AC/DC fan but Metallica are okay).
As I’ve got older I’ve realised there is value in all music, it’s so much better this way
Happy-hardcore being the obvious exception.
Early Metallica is good, but they became a bit mainstream with the occasional good number.
I always preferred the British heavy metal scene, bands like Maiden, Saxon and Nazareth.
Whenever I discover a sort of music now, I always think "have I changed, or was I just not exposed to this in a way that'd have led to me really listening to it" and then generally I think who cares, and listen to it anyway. There's good stuff in just about every genre and even really crap bands have their moments, and new stuff's easier than ever to listen to so why put up walls for your ears?
Metallica were kind of my gateway drug though- that, and queen, or more precisely freddie mercury dying. Watching the tribute concert as a family, everyone else is going "what is this awful noise" and I was over in the corner with fireworks going off in my head. Never been a more important band for me, never will be, even though I'm not that into it any more.
If you really want to know where you are with your musical snobbery regarding Metallica, let’s see how you feel about this
The irony is that elitism and snobbery in music means you’re only allowed to like the first 3 (or perhaps 4, I can never remember whether AJFA is approved) Metallica albums.
Music criticism is mostly populated by knobbers in my opinion.
https://theweek.com/articles/827454/strange-death-easy-listening
So why have I just discovered Metallica?
Radio 1 & 2 never played them very much. Neither did commercial radio, for that matter. 😉
Ouch – TBF there’s nothing wrong with Metallica – any opinion on ‘better’ rock bands is just subjective. (I’m more of a Sabbath / Maiden / AC/DC fan but Metallica are okay).
I don’t like everything of Metallica’s, but there’s a great many artists whose albums aren’t all killer, no filler; I’ve seen them three times, and they can go on a bit, but the likes of Maiden, Saxon, AC/DC, in fact pretty much all of the NWOBHM do nothing much for me anyway. Hell, the first music that really changed my life musically was King Crimson in 1969; ‘21st Century Schizoid Man’ is totally metal!
I prefer NIN, Tool, Opeth, Pigsx7, Pinkshinyultrablast, Apocalyptica, Pixies*…
I can be a music snob, I detest pretty much everything that comes from Radio 1 and all commercial radio stations.
You want snobbery and elitism in music, well classical can outdo popular music hands down, and opera, well…
I believe Aldous Huxley, who I’ve got a quote from about music tattooed on my arm, was apparently a terrible snob about quite a lot of classical music, he’d be appalled at some of what get’s played at the Proms these days, and Bonobo playing the RAH would have likely given him an aneurysm!
*Yeah, I know but they’re chuffing loud, and being against the barrier with 1800 people behind getting very enthusiastic and crowd surfing, there’s not much difference.
@binners - yup, that is an awesome track, I love it to bits, but I’ve got plenty of time for Miley anyway, and Lana Del Ray, Taylor Swift…
edit> just listened to that again, bloody brilliant, had shivers down my spine. Fantastic arrangement, and I love the video as well. 🥰
Miley is absolutely bloody brilliant! I’ve got two teenage daughters who love her, Lana Del Ray and Taylor Swift. Mad to think that when they were really young they used to watch her as Hannah Montana and they loved her then. Quite a journey she’s been on
I can never remember whether AJFA is approved
Fails the Newsted test for those who think every album should have been a rewrite of Kill Em All. I liked Newsted's playing (awaits lunch mob).
As I’ve got older I’ve realised there is value in all music, it’s so much better this way.
Same, it's nice to open your mind to stuff you would have once dismissed and find something new to enjoy.
Happy-hardcore being the obvious exception.
You've obviously never heard gabba.
There really isn't value in all music, most might fall into the music you like or don't category, but there is just some really awful ****ing crap about as well.
My problem with music as I get older is my tolerance for listening to music I don't like has decreased massively, so while I used to be able to listen to the radio all day and filter out the crap to just find the songs I enjoy, I just can't do that anymore, especially when I have a fairly large music library on my phone I can use (also not helped by the increase in "talk time" by pratish presenters that have replaced dj's)
Happy-hardcore being the obvious exception.
You’ve obviously never heard gabba.
I used to use Gabba to encourage people to leave my flat. I still listen to some hardcore of various flavors. It's a bit of a laugh.
while I used to be able to listen to the radio all day and filter out the crap to just find the songs I enjoy, I just can’t do that anymore, especially when I have a fairly large music library on my phone I can use (also not helped by the increase in “talk time” by pratish presenters that have replaced dj’s)
So much this 😂
Never too late to discover great bands and Metallica are/were a GREAT band. There's heavier/thrashier/more whatever but they just did it so well. I say did just because I do like the earlier stuff.
you’re only allowed to like the first 3 (or perhaps 4, I can never remember whether AJFA is approved) Metallica albums.
Or everything past Kill Em All sucks if you're a purist for thrash metal? Dunno / don't really care. I like Metallica for what was in those albums. First 4 were good, like the Black album too tbh but it was different.
Never really spent the time on the later albums, was a fan when I was younger and came back to those first 5 albums in the last 10 years or so. Later albums didn't really grab me but maybe I missed something among them. Albums are like books - if they don't grab me or at least interest me by about a third of the way in, move on. I know music can grow on you but there's too many books and albums in the world and not enough time. Come back to them later perhaps.
There's no good music or bad music, there's just music you like and music you don't.
Not being a snob here but that version of H.O.G. was just awful 😳
I liked Newsted’s playing (awaits lunch mob).
Belongs in the 'you know you're getting older' thread but - you know you're getting older when rather than a bar brawl over rival band's merits, we need to organise a finger buffet so we can discuss it in a civilised manner.
(I know it's an autocorrect but made me laugh)
IHN and sc-xc have, in my opinion at least, expressed my feelings on music. It's possible to find something to enjoy in nearly everything (yes, including happy hardcore and Gabba, even in Country) and it ultimately boils down to what you enjoy at that time, in that place and in that mood.
I all other situations, it's just background noise.
...and on the subject of Metallica
As I’ve got older I’ve realised there is value in all music, it’s so much better this way
Sometimes I'm almost going the other way. All music is an unwanted infliction put upon me. Oh look nice weather let's ruin or with music! Yes I'd love to hear that tired old hackneyed piece of music that I've never enjoyed listening to my entire life*, yes one more time! Bombarded with the same old drivel.
Other side of the coin is most people probably think I listen to a right old load of shite music too 🤣
Not being a snob here but that version of H.O.G. was just awful
Yeah, and at 2.20 she even goes and forgets the words!
Your musical taste is the one thing you should never feel the need to apologise for what you like is nobodies business but your own.
Opera was chosen by the upper classes in the C19th to get away from the masses in the theatre. Opera*, ballet and classical music have been culturally appropriated with a view to distinguish themselves as being superior. Ignore it. My last night's listening was Exile on Main Street and Bach's Magnificat, both pretty good rockers.
* they come from wildly different backgrounds, they fall in love, they endure all sorts of challenges, she dies.
whilst i enjoy the classic Metallica Hits (Enter Sandman, Battery, Master of Puppets etc), i think their best album is St Anger! Burn me on the cross 😛
But its always good to discover a band you like and then find out they have a mammoth back catalogue to sink your teeth into.
I discover new bands quite often and are always disappointed that they only have 2 singles to their name. I want more. And i want it now.
And i agree with age, the ability to tolerate (what i consider) to be rubbish music is less and less.
nickc
Your musical taste is the one thing you should never feel the need to apologise for what you like is nobodies business but your own.
So much this! Why do people get upset if someone doesn't like the same music as them? It doesn't matter!
I can't be bothered with Metallica (I mean, they've been and gone (don't correct me if I'm wrong) but - newsflash! there's new music out there!), but they were one of my Dad's fave bands in his 70s. He liked to rock it up while driving randomly about in his Prius.
If you really want to know where you are with your musical snobbery regarding Metallica, let’s see how you feel about this
I quite like this version
desperatebicycle
I can’t be bothered with Metallica (I mean, they’ve been and gone (don’t correct me if I’m wrong) but – newsflash! there’s new music out there!), but they were one of my Dad’s fave bands in his 70s. He liked to rock it up while driving randomly about in his Prius.
This is a great post.
In the 70s, your Dad drove around randomly in a car that didn't exist until the late 90s while listening to a band that didn't release their first album until the 80s?
Oh, and they released a new album about a month ago, so they aren't exactly been & gone. I know you said to not correct you, but.....hey, this is the internet :o)
They've released some good stuff & some bad stuff - Death Magnetic was un-listenable in my opinion, mainly due to the production and St Anger was erm.....yeah.
The new one is pretty good though.
There’s no good music or bad music, there’s just music you like and music you don’t.
Even Coldplay? What about Snow Patrol?
Come on.... its absolutely bloody awful!
😉
What about Snow Patrol?
Woah! Steady on there @binners old chap. Nowt wrong with chasing cars 😉 Generally I'd agree with Coldplay unless they are live. Still one of my fave Superbowl half-time shows and I was very taken with a Glasto performance (no idea when it was from I just stumbled across it on BBC2 one night).
In the 70s, your Dad drove around randomly in a car that didn’t exist until the late 90s while listening to a band that didn’t release their first album until the 80s?
Maybe you should learn to read a bit betterer
I remember them playing Snow Patrol's Run at the start of a Dusk til Dawn at Thetford one year...'light up, light up' as we all turned our lights on was a nice moment...
In the 70s, your Dad drove around randomly in a car that didn’t exist until the late 90s while listening to a band that didn’t release their first album until the 80s?
I think 'his' 70's rather than 'the' 70's 😃
The huge irony about Coldplay is that the people who talk about them the most are the people banging on about how much they don't like them.
ballet and classical music have been culturally appropriated with a view to distinguish themselves as being superior.
By people who don't go to performances of these types of music perhaps, but I've never actually encountered the snobbery that some people want to believe exists at these events. Folks say it's expensive but you could buy a £2K ticket at the stadium of Light - of all places for the Beyoncé Tour that's coming (ask me how I know) so it's not that?
In the 70s, your Dad drove around randomly in a car that didn’t exist until the late 90s while listening to a band that didn’t release their first album until the 80s?
If you are going to accuse someone of making shit up, based on what they write, you need to make sure your own reading and comprehension are up to snuff. Otherwise you're going to end up looking a bit daft.