[Closed] Eating whale is kinder than eating chicken - discuss.

neil the wheel

To feed a hundred people, 25 chickens have to suffer and die.

What? I dunno about those stats, I'm on more of 1:1 ratio. However, I prefer turkey.

What are we going to do when the aliens turn up & want to speak to the whales?

When you can breed whales like you are can chicken go for it.

Minke populations are not endangered.

and it tastes good.

Using your 1/4 chicken as a portion size I think you'd get closer to a thousand portions out of the whale .

Maybe, but I didn't think the point of not killing whales was particularly related to being kind to animals.

That South Park episode 😆 F you whales, F you dolphins

Fresh dolphin steak is so much nicer than the tinned rubbish in waitrose

I blame all the vegetarians and their insatiable demand for chicken and fish. Whales are fish.

Think of the krill

"Save the turkeys" doesn't have quite the same ring to it.

japanese are killing an endagered species - not acceptable under any circumstances

As soon as whales start laying eggs, then i'll swap from chickens.

Being delicious is a brilliant evolutionary strategy for chickens, there are millions of them. We don't eat tigers so there are about four left.

Whales are fish.

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japanese are killing an endagered species

except they aren't.

Sooo.... based on that. 50 Billion chickens are reared and killed a year, so only 50 million whales a year would have to be killed.... I think its probably harder to rear a whale than a chicken.

I think its probably harder to rear a whale than a chicken.

*dribbles tea*

Might not be endangered but it's illegal and condemned by the rest of the world. It's an utter disgrace and they should be turned around and sent back to port before being decommissioned.

In defiance of international law, Japan will send off its whaling fleet today to kill hundreds of Minke whales in the Southern Ocean — a move fiercely condemned by Australia and New Zealand.

Last year the International Court of Justice ruled Japan's scientific whaling program was a sham that should be halted, and the International Whaling Commission (IWC) has also said the plan was not justified.

To sidestep this, the Japanese government called for any future disputes to be settled through the United Nations convention on the law of the sea.

But Japanese academic Yasuhiro Sanada said that too may prove to be illegal.

Milkie

I think its probably harder to rear a whale than a chicken.

Easier to pluck though.

except they aren't.

They also appear to not being doing for Scientific Research so that would make it illegal.

...also think of all the trees that would need be cut down to make the containers for the KFW bargain bucket. 😉

6 Spicy Whale fins please

6 Spicy Whale fins please

Do you want Fry with that?

I advocate the use of torpedoes on the fleet in this instance. They've been warned.

japanese are killing an endagered species - not acceptable under any circumstances

Not even if they're really really hungry on the way back from the pub, and the kebab house is shut?

Whale meat again,
Don't know where, don't know when,
But I know whale meat again, will taste the same.
Keep smiling through,
Just like you always do,
Till the blue ships drive the shoals, far far away.

IGMC 😆

I advocate the use of torpedoes on the fleet in this instance.

For Scientific Research.

How many packets of these would you get out of a whale?

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The OP fails to distinguish between farming and hunting, japanese who eat whale and humans and the rule of law...

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These guys will be back out to greet them, absolute top guys. Had the pleasure to share a few beers with them while the Steve Irwin was in for a refit last year.

Bloody hippies! 😉

None. Whales aren't cod.

Nah, the Whales exist because of the efforts of their parents and their own efforts to survive. The chickens exist because we bred them - I personally don't believe they have the mental capacity to understand life or death, but if they were unhappy about us killing them, you could argue they owe their lives to us in the first place, a short comfortable life largely free from the stress of hunger or attack by predators is preferable to no life at all.

As for kindness, a slaughtered chicken is killed quickly and without pain, not so for hunted whales.

I've eaten minke whale, it was nice. And, you know, free range.

I wonder how many of the folks on here proclaiming that it's a terrible thing to eat (non-endangered) whales will happily tuck into battery-farmed chicken and eggs and intensively-reared pork...

I don't have room in my garden for a whale tank where my chicken hutch is.

For that reason, I'm oot.

No I wouldn't, I prefer good farming methods. I also think hunting whales for dubious political reasons and stubbornness is pointless. The Japanese do not want to loose face on this one.

At the OP, I know what you're getting at but it feels more than that. I suppose it's a 'I like them so it's bad' scale, Which with Vegans it's a 'All animals' level, with vegetarians it's a 'Everything if it's in my mouth, but not if I'm wearing it' level, Pescetarians are kind of 'I don't think fish are cuddly so that's OK' and so it continues. I feel that I'd eat any meat, no issues at all, except that if someone served up Elephant with a black rhino jus or a dog burger, I'd be pretty disgusted, yet I see no issue with eating a rabbit which in turn disgusts my wife.
I think almost everyone bar a few remote islanders and the Japanese have crossed wales off their personal lists though.

The fact is that our species has exploded on this planet, in terms of numbers, and if we were free to eat anything we felt like, there would be nothing left. As it is, we, as a species, have designated certain animals for food i.e. cows, sheep chickens etc. Animals that are easy to breed and provide the necessary nutrients.

As the population of this planet continues to grow, the protection of “protected” species is going to become increasingly important. The likes of Japan who blatantly flout this ethic should be severely punished. As should any country that causes any environmental catastrophe, or fails to meet their emissions targets.

I’m a supporter of Sea Shepherd anyway and I hope they get stuck in. However, it really needs severe international sanctions to make any permanent change.

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Well if vegetarians count chicken and fish as not meat then I'm counting whales as fish

It's not about the cuteness or otherwise of the animal being eaten, it's purely about the number of lives taken. Bigger animal = fewer individuals killed for the same amount of dinner. Therefore, chicken is more cruel then beef. (Or whale).

I've eaten whale, dog, rat and monitor lizard.

All socially unacceptable animals to eat.

They were all OK, but not something I would get excited about.

Whales and dolphins appear to be considerably more intelligent than chickens, and probably a lot of humankind as well come to that.

Chickens are pretty stupid and quick to kill, whereas killing one of those whales can take a long time and is pretty inhumane.

Chickens are pretty stupid