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As someone who knows first hand what it is like to be hit by a car and have lost a friend due to the same, I hope you learn from this.
Personally I think the punishment for speeding in residential areas should be very severe. They flog past my house at 30+ without a care. Total selfishness.
And yes, I stay below the speed limit. No sympathy.
Perhaps there should be a mandatory requirement to take 10 lessons at your own cost then pass the advanced driving test to regain a licence.
Of course many of us speed - however the grown up thing to do if caught is to accept the punishment and not whine about it.
If you don't want to get caught speeding don't speed - if yo can't do the time don't do the crime.
I walk through a quiet town centre before 7am every day. I am ****ing fed up with the number of utter tools who think "ah well, it's early, nobody about. No harm done with a heavy right foot." Until they enter a blind junction much faster than they should when I'm crossing the ****ing road. Idiots doing 40 in a 20mph zone, because it never seems to be enforced. I'm going to start enforcing it with a brick through each ****s windscreen. ๐ฟ Not really criticising Dez because IIRC his offence wasn't in a poor visibility area. But like it or not, some pedestrians will expect limits to be adhered to and are making judgements based on that. Plenty of them walking about at 9pm...
@ Rich .- No Pavement on one side of the road . Industrial Estate fence adjoins carraigeway.
@ Miketroid . Dez has also been hit by a car actually .
Everybody speeds . Everyone who has a driving licence has been at least 20% over the speed limit . Anyone who claims they haven't is a liar .
I got caught for doing 54 in a 30 in my yoof , then last year 48 in 30 .
Take it on the chin and get on with it, I do 600 miles a week so its almost inevitable.
Doing 600miles a week doesn't allow you to speed in a 30, hope you get caught a few more times and end up doing 0 miles a week.
Also, the OPs speed would have been showing atleast 45mph to have a radar of 41 so this was knowingly doing 50% greater than the safe maximum. No excuses there, 33 maybe. This also on a road he didn't know and in the dark.
Clean license what does that prove ?
I have a clean license and I have had a 56 day ban.
Also received points for not wearing a seat belt.
The limits were set when no cars had ABS or similar driver aids. Just because someone is below the speed limit doesn't make them safer , staring at the speedo instead of the road ahead.
How many drivers have been made to feel bad because someone didn't cross the road at the correct place and they were slightly over the limit
As has been mentioned above, never have so many people who have never broke the speed limit posted to forum. My mother my ex police step father and my wife have all done it. Bet your friends and family have there fingers crossed if an abulance can't to them in time and need one of you to get the A&E.
I do 600 miles a week so its almost inevitable.
dumbest quote of the year award well done!
This also on a road he didn't know and in the dark.
Its about a mile from his house
dumbest quote of the year award well done!
S'OK , its only the 7th day of the year . Give me another 300 days or so and I can probably come up with some more pearls of wisdom for little screen grab ,out of context quotes
Emergency vehicles responding to an emergency are a special case.
So is Sir Alex
From BBC News
"[i]Such "special reasons" for breaking traffic laws can include even the most unlikely emergencies. Beckham's boss at Manchester United, Sir Alex Ferguson, was cleared of a traffic offence by explaining that severe diarrhoea and the need to reach a toilet prompted his driving on a motorway hard shoulder. [/i]"
So if the OP had claimed he had a dose of the squirts....................
Everybody speeds . Everyone who has a driving licence has been at least 20% over the speed limit . Anyone who claims they haven't is a liar .
20% over the limit, so 36 in a 30, 48 in a 40, 60 in a 50, 72 in a 60 and 84 in a 70. Now those are real speeds and as stated earlier cars show maybe 10% below real speed, so if your car says your doing 30 your actually doing 27mph, and at 70 your only doing 63mph.
If we adjust the numbers above to show how fast you seem to say everyone goes we get, 40 in a 30, 53 in a 40, 66 in a 50, 80 in a 60 and 92 in a 70.
I think your wrong on that one, yes everyone speeds, but at least 20% over the limit not to sure on that, but i guess if your doing 600miles a week there is a strong possibility your a rep, i assume your on a fuel card, and having seen how so many reps drive the idea that everyone drives that way, i can see where that attitude might come from, and as the role of a sales rep demands self confidence and the ability to, how to say this politely, bullshit. If your not a rep the other section is repair men who have too many jobs and not enough time.
Personally i don't drive that far over the limit, i am paying for my fuel, i can't be arsed with the time i'll loose if i get pulled over, and the brutal reality speeding doesn't actually save that much time, you spend so much time stuck in traffic jams, stuck at lights, dealing with junctions etc.
Don't usually do this but far too many incorrect uses of "your" and then a "loose" in the last post.
Car Crash Grammar. Arrrrrrgh!
Don't usually do this but far too many incorrect uses of "your" and then a "loose" in the last post.
May i offer my humblest apologies for the lapse. I shall take leave from this discussion, withdraw to the drawing room and there, shoot myself. I do trust that such an action will be acceptable?
mrmo - you own a gun ?!
clearly a VERY bad person indeed
(remember to take out some members of the public and a relative or two before you go)
May i offer my humblest apologies for the lapse
Don't take it too personally. I just find it detracts from what is being written.
Your welcome to not loose time thinking about it to much when you could of been doing something gooder. ๐
don simon - MemberThose with clean licences haven't done anything wrong, unless you can prove otherwise, of course.
I think you may have missed my point, by about 180 degrees.
I think you may have missed my point, by about 180 degrees.
No I haven't, I was taking the pi55, one absurd statement followed by another.
I think you are clearly still missing my point.
Your clearly to smart for me then.
[b]mrmo - Member[/b]Don't usually do this but far too many incorrect uses of "your" and then a "loose" in the last post.
[b]May i offer my humblest apologies for the lapse. I shall take leave from this discussion, withdraw to the drawing room and there, shoot myself. I do trust that such an action will be acceptable?[/b]
I not i.
F-me is this stil going on?
[i]a really poor driver.[/i]
Yep, I am an absolutely shit driver - I hate driving, so why would I think I'm any good at it? I'm safe (these days), but I'm impatient, irritable and easily wound up by other drivers. Shame I don't drive in STWland where everyone is so perfect.
Its surprising how many cyclists are such perfect motorists. Well, it should be surprising, but as wrightyson said, I've been on this forum long enough not to be surprised.
I didn't start the thread to whinge, as many dicks have suggested, I posted for a laugh, which is what I got, especially from the, oh so predictable, judgemental pricks.
So cheers all.
[i]I think you are clearly still missing my point.[/i]
That's rare eh?
*when I say "for a laugh", I don't mean it wasn't true.
Yep, I am an absolutely shit driver
This is a good first step - recognising your faults. However, having accepted this fact, you should probably just accept that public transport is a safer option for you, for everyone's sakes.
@singletrackmind:
I'm sorry to hear that, however after several months in hospital, nearly losing my leg, I can vouch that the car/human interface is best experienced behind the wheel!
20%??!! I admit that my speedo error is about 10%, but I can't see how I'd get 20.
@Dez. I can't see whats so funny about this. You wouldn't think drink driving is funny, but in a residential area going 10mph over the speed limit, you're playing with people's lives. I hope you now understand the strength of feeling there is against careless and inconsiderate driving. I cant see what's surprising about that.
It seems as if your attitude is at fault; maybe a speed awareness course will do you good. If, however you adjust your driving style as a result of the opinions expressed here, then that's a good thing. Just drive safely; barely anyone is in need of rushing/speeding. Getting to work on time, when you've been delayed isn't worth it; just accept you'll be let that day! Leave earlier next time.
going 10mph over the speed limit, you're playing with people's lives
Hysterical bullshit
the strength of feeling there is against careless and inconsiderate driving
So why do so few drivers do anything about it? i.e. More training. Have you done any?
PP: bull$hit! You'll kill someone at 40. I was lucky I got hit at 25mph. I would not have survived a faster impact.
You'll kill someone at 40
Only if you hit them, and not necessarily you won't, even then. See what I mean - Hysterical bullshit.
You chose -
A) Some one doing 30mph, not paying attention, mind on the kids in the back, playing with the satnav, on the phone
B) Somone doing 40 who's paying attention and on the ball
Who's more likely to have the accident?
PP, that's why there's a 30 limit!!!!!!
The two examples aren't like for like. One is driving without due care, the other is a speeder. By keeping speeds below the limit you mitigate some of the effects of an accident, regardless of cause. A 40 mph driver will have less time to react anyhow, regardless of how ' switched on' they think they are.
Judging from your arrogance, it'd be better it those speeders who choose not to undergo the awareness course, lose their licence.
Would keep a few cretins off the road ๐
You chose -A) Some one doing 30mph, not paying attention, mind on the kids in the back, playing with the satnav, on the phone
B) Somone doing 40 who's paying attention and on the ball
C) Someone doing 30 who's paying attention and on the ball
By all means play about outside of built-up areas where there's less chance of your actions affecting someone else, but it's 30 for a reason.
And I'm usually the first one to defend speeding on NSL roads using your points above.
PP, that's why there's a 30 limit!!!!!!
What? so people can drive how the hell they like, hit what they like, break whatever laws they like..... And as long as they stick to 30 that's fine with you, because you believe the bullshit?
Judging from your arrogance,
And you dare to call me arrogant? Phhhhhhhh
but it's 30 for a reason.
Yeah, we know, but that's not the point. ๐
double post
Yep
I might not be the best driver out there, but if I reduce one risk factor by keeping to a speed limit, then I'm ahead of the driver at 40mph who thinks he knows what is going on.
What? so people can drive how the hell they like, hit what they like, break whatever laws they like..... And as long as they stick to 30 that's fine with you, because you believe the bullshit?
Yep
I rest my case.
EDIT from your edit
then I'm ahead of the driver at 40mph who thinks he knows what is going on.
You really are showing how little you really know now, how much you've been suckered in by the 'statistics' and how blinkered most people are.
I'll ask again, you know you could improve, so will you go and do some extra training, please?
PP, I'm afraid you can't argue your point, evidence is against you. Goodbye!
Edit: in village/built up areas, people make their judgements to cross roads, reverse out of spaces etc, in the knowledge that traffic will have time to react. If some tool comes round the corner at 40 and finds a stationary car blocking the carriageway who has pulled out of a drive, he/she might have nowhere to go than the other lane causing a head on, for example.
You'll argue that the car pulling out is at fault, but there may have been plenty of space for a slower driver to stop. That kind of thing is ANOTHER reason for lowered limits.
Get over yourself.
...... Or stick your head in the sand and refuse to improve, in that case. ๐
Hey, I'm happy to improve AND stick to the limit.
Why are YOU so special?!
In the ideal world, each driver would have their own speed limit, based on ability. So the nervous driver would be limited 20MPH, and driving gods like PP would be able to drive at 60MPH.
Until that happens we all stick to what the law (in all it's errors) has decided. Which is 30MPH.
I reiterate:
C) Someone doing 30 who's paying attention and on the ballBy all means play about outside of built-up areas where there's less chance of your actions affecting someone else, but it's 30 for a reason.
And I'm usually the first one to defend speeding on NSL roads using your points above.
In the ideal world, each driver would have their own speed limit, based on ability. So the nervous driver would be limited 20MPH, and driving gods like PP would be able to drive at 60MPH.
So where does that leave me as a humble pedestrian then? PP would run me over ๐
Dez you claim to think you are a good driver then list a number of irrelevant factors impatience irritation other slower drivers etc that you allow to negatively impact on your driving. From your own post you lost control of your speed could not tell how fast you were going and failed to see a large glow in the dark object that a speeding driving god would perceive as a threat. Poor driver with delusions of skill or troll.
The obvious good safe driver has already been identified switched on alert and with the skill and experience to stay within the speed limit.
For me one of he most dangerous driving types are the constant speed merchants. I was stuck behind one yesterday - 40mph along the A road with a 60limit with a tail of frustrated drivers stuck behind him but then when we got to the village with a 30 limit he kept up the same 40mph dropping the rest of us. I'll admit I do tend to drive faster than advised at times when I feel its safe in open country but make a point of kerbing it when needed and always sticking within the 20/30/40 limits in built up areas.
So where does that leave me as a humble pedestrian then? PP would run me over
Sorry, you're dispensable for the greater good of driving gods.
Because of the way that cars isolate their users from the outside world with their comfy seats, air conditioning etc. people seem to fail to realise that the object they are behind the wheel of is potentially a killing machine, and feel safe in their little metal box. This feeling of safety means that they're more prepared to take risks that have the potential to cause accidents. If driving was made much more obviously dangerous, then perhaps people would take more care?
I'm a firm beliver that cars should have a 6" steel spike coming out of the steering wheel rather than an air bag. People might be a lot better behaved on the roads if they will get impaled if the car stops suddenly. ๐
If speeding is so awfull, why do the police not prosecute evryone who actually has an accident ?
They will happily prosecute speeders all day long , but heaven forbid if you have a car / car interface , thats OK is it .
Big points for people who crash 'should' mean people drive abit more dilegently .
Some people who post about speeders must live in a 1950's bubble . Where everyone drives a Morris Oxford at 27mph and waves to Ms Marple as they trundle round .
Reality check . The majority of people break the speed limit everyday .
And I am the only person from here who can comment on Dez's driving , as i have been in a car with him . The rest is just conjecture and keyboard semantics .
ffs, some people come on here trying to show how smart they are. if they were actually as smart as they think they are, wouldn't they[i] read what I say [/i]and actually [i]understand[/i] it?
on this page, i'm referring to mikertroid and crankboy.
Pp you comments for me do not have value as people expect cars to be driven at around 30 in 30 zones. What makes you think you are such a great driver? You come across as the usual boorish male who likes driving fast. For myself i enjoy the challenge of riding to speed limits whilst making progress. Only really go over limits when overtaking in 60 zones.