Plenty of support for Trump to do all sorts of military things, I think.

Ha ha, chopper fail, Russian chopper on flag. Prob Russian grenade launcher too. (I know it’s a photoshop Rambo image BTW)
Seems the American Psychological Association have announced the definitive diagnosis of Angry Tinkerbell’s mental state, and I apologise in advance for the profanity in the URL...
http://www.newsbiscuit.com/2020/10/29/trump-diagnosed-as-being-a-****/
A more serious assessment of what his toxic, malignant narcissism could lead to if he loses here...
https://www.salon.com/2020/10/28/trump-narcissism-psychology-election-loss-pathology-personality-disorders/
All getting very interesting!
For those concerned that Hillary was ahead in 16 and "the polls were wrong.." the article linked to below covers it very succinctly. In brief though if they are as wrong this time as they were four years ago, Biden still wins, albeit not by a landslide. They'd have to be significantly worse than four years ago (& even then they still got the popular vote more or less right, it was Trump flipping the rustbelt that nobody saw happening) for Trump to win.
Given that they've spent the last four years tightening up their methodologies, this is somewhat unlikely. Can't rule it out 100% of course, but still very unlikely.
Anyway, Grauniad article below, I've got fingers tightly crossed and will be having a sleepless night on Wednesday night!
The tactics of Assert, Double Down and Deflect that have served people like Giuliani well since 2016 aren't winning over undecided voters. I wonder how many Trumpets are dumb enough to take Giuliani's assertion that he has proof of wrongdoing serious given that Giuliani has so far failed to provide any proof of wrongdoing.
Holy shamoly, that video is plain bat sh/t nuts. Like something out of goodfellas.
"You want proof? You want proof you motherfing cucksocker? I'll give you proof. I'll rant and rant and rant and rant. Then I'll rant some more"
Unbelievable. Stinks of desperation. I guess when he learned that Tucker had somehow lost the goldplatedwithfingerprintstimestampsandsignatures only copy of the proof, it sent him off his rocker.
Imagine, you spend years gumshoing around the world taking down the biggest corruption scandal on the face of the planet and one talkshow host destroys it all.
Enough to drive a man to drink.
Either that or it's the actions of a man seeing the real likelihood of a Dem president a Dem House and a Dem Senate, and who knows that if that's the case, well....the Feds are going to be paying him a visit sometime very soon..
When this thread started did we not used to have some trump supporters on here? Have even they gone
I really wish we could alter the swearfilter on this thread so we could saw what we think without it being asterisked out
Anyway, Grauniad article below, I’ve got fingers tightly crossed and will be having a sleepless night on Wednesday night!
There's a strong change of long delayed results due to the way that absentee ballots are counted, there's also a risk that exit polls will be significantly out due to the fact that more republicans vote in person that democrats.
All in all its going to be very unclear, until it isn't.
Could be a good night to binge watch the west wing on all 4.
#Bartlettforamerica
I love the mental gymnastics that allow people to simultenously believe in Sleepy Joe and the Do Nothing Democrats, and Joe Biden The Prince Of Darkness, and the Democrats Who Will Kill God. Either one is quite hard to believe, but both at once, that's impressive.
When this thread started did we not used to have some trump supporters on here? Have even they gone
I'm pretty sure that at least two have been banned for generally being horrible and abusive, while most of those prepared to give Trump the benefit of the doubt in 2016 will have seen the shtshow that's happened since. There's another who likes to pop in for a quick non-sequitur every now and again, but noone takes them seriously.
As other have said before, I'll breathe a sigh of relief only *if* Biden & Harris win next week. I suspect that the GOP camp are launching an exercise of damage limitation by bolstering their message to their core voters and settling for domination of the Supreme Court. Even if Trump wins, the effects of their super-spreader rallies will make the winter very bleak for many.
A big unknown is how many votes will actually end up being counted. There will be people who intend to vote but won't make it due to voter suppression tactics. People have to queue for hours as polling stations have been slashed, and many of the poor cannot afford the time off work. And some people won't be able to physically get there. Then there are people who will have asked for a mail in ballot then end up missing the deadline or otherwise deciding to vote in person - this ends up being a provisional ballot and this may not be counted (I think anyway).
Lots of shit can still happen.
The provisional ballot thing is a concern. Especially with those who requested postal votes and then decide to go in person. As I understand it each state can decide how they respond, for instance they could cancel the postal and issue them with an in-person. Or make it provisional in which case they only come into play if it's close. Guess which option most Republican controlled states are going for..
Which in turn could lead to some interesting court cases..
However, after months thinking and worrying about all of this I'm going to come off the fence and say that Biden (aka The Prince of Darkness) will win and win big. Enough so that it will be done and dusted on the day
(I touched wood after writing this. Just like Rudi..)
Quote from Philly DA...
“We’ve never really had to be concerned that a bunch of knuckleheads were going to show up to the polls with guns,” Krasner said. “If they do it this time, they’re going to have a problem.”
Meanwhile, the supreme court is continuing to rule that they shouldn't change any invervene with regards to state electoral rules, meaning that among other things, postal votes received after 8pm on election day won't count in Wisconsin. Not that the count ends at 8pm on election day, or anything, it's just their arbitrary limitation that probably isn't that big of a deal normally, but is a bit more of a big deal when there's a pandemic on and people aren't receiving their ballots in time, and the mailing of ballots is likely to be delayed.
So, it seems like all decisions of this sort, unless they're actually unlawful/constitutional, are in the hands of local courts.
I love the mental gymnastics that allow people to simultenously believe in Sleepy Joe and the Do Nothing Democrats, and Joe Biden The Prince Of Darkness, and the Democrats Who Will Kill God.
It's Doublethink straight out of the 1984 playbook:
If you want to keep a secret, you must also hide it from yourself. Doublethink means the power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one's mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them. Until they became conscious they will never rebel, and until after they have rebelled they cannot become conscious.
I love the mental gymnastics that allow people to simultenously believe in Sleepy Joe and the Do Nothing Democrats, and Joe Biden The Prince Of Darkness, and the Democrats Who Will Kill God.
https://www.faena.com/aleph/articles/umberto-eco-a-practical-list-for-identifying-fascists/
8. The enemy is both weak and strong. “[…] the followers must be convinced that they can overwhelm the enemies. Thus, by a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”
I love the mental gymnastics that allow people to simultenously believe in Sleepy Joe and the Do Nothing Democrats, and Joe Biden The Prince Of Darkness, and the Democrats Who Will Kill God.
See also the people who passionately believe the government is tyrannical and its power should be massively curtailed, but then cheers the police for murdering black people and beating up protestors they disagree with, and cheers a president who won't say if he will accept the results of an election.
Any suggestions for the donald j trump presidential library?
First up, a McDonalds menu.
Any suggestions for the donald j trump presidential library?
I think there's fairly genuine concern that the Trump administration will try to shred and burn as much of the incriminating evidence as they can before the Biden administration takes over. There may not be much left to actually put in a library. Maybe whatever prison he ends up in can let them use a supplies closet for his library.
Not sure if this is the most *ed up thing of the day, let alone the week, but it's pretty *ed up.
https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/1322383381003468800
Any suggestions for the donald j trump presidential library?
The Washington Post have already built it and its fully stocked ; The Fact Checker Database

That former president is still making him look bad.
https://twitter.com/OliviaRaisner/status/1322664700052705283
That's just brilliant.
All Trump would do with that basketball is tell his spray tanner that he wants to be the same colour as it
If Joe Biden wins then it will truly be God Save America. i.e. God has to save America.
If you think President Trump is worst then looking at smiley smiley Joe I think he is mentally incapable. This guy (Biden) gives me the feeling that something is wrong.
Yes, President Trump might grab your cat but at least he is sound albeit a bit un-presidential.
Mentally sound. He ticks the boxes for about half the dsm
Yes, President Trump might grab your cat but at least he is sound albeit a bit un-presidential.
Wow. So your argument is that he’s unpresidential (strongly agree) and he’ll sexually assault you/your sister/child/wife but that’s all ok because he’s “sound”?
I mean he’s obviously a failure and completely unsound, but the fact that you’re willing to overlook all the terrible and criminal stuff is really telling. I appreciate your honesty, I suppose.
Troll keeps trolling, killfile is your friend.
Yes, President Trump might grab your cat but at least he is sound
LMAO. Trump can't walk down a ramp unaided, he thought a mental acuity test was super difficult. He's totally not sound, that's the problem.
https://twitter.com/Brwnidgl333/status/1321642602387525632
Wow. So your argument is that he’s unpresidential (strongly agree) and he’ll sexually assault you/your sister/child/wife but that’s all ok because he’s “sound”?
There is no argument to be found, only trolling.
Troll keeps trolling, killfile is your friend.
So much this. Killfile, ignore and move on, if no-one responds there will be a non-sequitur along in a minute.
Yes, President Trump might grab your cat but at least he is sound
I have no idea what the basis for that is.
I think it's established that he's not morally, financially or politically sound.
It’s absolutely provable that The Donald is anything but sound! He is a malignant narcissist, which is a personality disorder and completely untreatable; he is not mentally ill, chewkw, do yourself a favour, son, and read this article, then come back and admit you’re hopelessly wrong.
https://www.upworthy.com/psychologist-explains-trumps-lack-of-conscience-and-why-his-base-loves-it#toggle-gdpr
It’s absolutely provable that The Donald is anything but sound!
Unfortunately, our pet troll is going to troll. Move on, nothing to see here.
In other news (from May) Apprentice producer Noel Casler on Trump.
That former president is still making him look bad.
Obama getting buckets! Lefty too. My favourite thing about him is how he played ball before election results.
Some scary folks have guns in 'merica.
From what I know about Texas (from films/TV) and Trump supporters, I’d be very surprised if they weren’t all armed. That’s not to say they’re not awful people but pushing the fact that they were armed in America’s Deep South isn’t going to surprise many people, and it certainly isn’t going to sway any ‘moderate’ Texans towards a dem vote.
Looks like the FBI are involved now, because the local police apparently seemed to be unable to help - perhaps they’re on Team Trump. The wheels are coming off the US’s democracy.
I have no idea what the basis for that is

And so to more stuff looking at the probabilities around Trump or Biden winning. The article below looks at how the polling is (or isn't) getting it right and how this year compares to 2016. Spoiler - if the polls (nationally and by state) are wrong to the same extent as they were in 2016, Biden wins. The tension is killing me..
