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My phone doesn’t have a pin on it, the only app anyone can access and do damage is the banking app which has 2 step security anyway.
You mean that 2FA that sends a message to your phone to prove who you are and then gives access to your bank account!!? 🤦♂️
pin number
My teeth are itching
My mate who passed away had it all written down, which was great, apart from it was across 3 reporters note books in amongst all sorts of scribbled notes, to do lists, shopping lists, various different passwords, false dates of birth, using his cat name as an alias, game passwords and user names etc Eventually managed to get into one of his email accounts & his cats Facebook account 🤔
But would you really want to give a grieving widow access to every intimate conversation you ever had with previous partners from decades ago?
Yes, don't want them thinking when I'm dead they were anything special 😂
Yes, don’t want them thinking when I’m dead they were anything special 😂
You're telling me you never had a row with your partner and then went to the pub with a mate, let off steam and said a load of crap you didn't mean? I don't believe you.
Now imagine that, only she can read it and you're not there to explain because you're dead.
And again, it's not just about you. What if your mate had done that and your widow is his partner's bestie? What if he'd confessed an affair? Does "confidence" mean that little to you? Regardless of how clean my ticket is or isn't, I'm carrying around all manner of friends' dirty little secrets.
It's all manner of wrong, don't do it.
My teeth are itching
That would be RAS Syndrome.
My daughter knows all of my account passwords, which is odd because I never told her.
She probably knows yours too.
I’ve no problem with my wife looking through all my correspondence – there’s nothing juicy to see.
You never bought her a surprise present, or planned a surprise trip? Not all secrets have to be bad 🙂
You’re telling me you never had a row with your partner and then went to the pub with a mate, let off steam and said a load of crap you didn’t mean? I don’t believe you.
Can’t say I have, no.
You never bought her a surprise present, or planned a surprise trip? Not all secrets have to be bad 🙂
...errr - nope!!! 🤣🤣
Stopped doing those many, many years ago now. Was our 33rd wedding anniversary last Friday.
You know what the standards in this place have gone to shit.
*Engage pedant mode*
It's PIN
Or
It's PI Number
It's never PIN Number
Unless you have a number that identifies the number that identifies you THAT would be a Personal Identification Number Number
Thank you Josh.
Although
It’s PI Number
...while correct, that's just weird.
Yeah I agree it's weird or was more illustrate the issue rather than a usable version.
Mrs and I use the same passcode (which the kids also know).
Nope. No need for it as everything they’d need access to they would legally have on my death.
you may be unusually organised, or unusually nonchalant about what happens when you are dead. I’ve unpicked the mess of a sudden and unexpected death. It’s not a fun process, but was a damn site easier with his phone to go through and call people. Many of them his wife would have been able to produce contact details for but she wasn’t really in a fit state to do that. Others, even when I produced a list of names she wasn’t sure exactly who “Dave (Manchester)” and “Mr T” were. (Mr T was a close enough friend to fly 800 miles to go to the funeral - Dave was a taxi driver who picked him up a few weeks before he died - he didn’t make the same effort 😉 but I like to think that me calling these people saved his wife the hassle of deciding if she should call them and repeating the story for 50 times.)
I have no secrets from my partner. But would you really want to give a grieving widow access to every intimate conversation you ever had with previous partners from decades ago? Those times where you had heart-to-hearts with your bestest friends? Those chats where they confided their problems or darkest secrets to you? That one time where mutual friend Mike rolled in pissed from the pub and texted you to say that he’d always thought you could do better? Aside from anything else it’s a catastrophically gross betrayal of everyone else’s trust and privacy.
Your phone content must be way more exciting than mine. There’s no ex partners, I’m not 15 so don’t do heart to hearts by text, and none of my friends think I could do better!
it may well not be your widow who picks through ten yrs of “where r u?” “I’m outside” “when will you be back” … she may well ask a friend or other relative to help work out which banks need contacted, how to make social media stop messages about you appearing in her phone upsetting her, how to get hold of your boss, how to get hold of the mate you had in a previous job three years ago who you car shared with for 5 years, how to get hold of the guys you go mountain biking with. Some of that stuff you might be organised enough to write down (and perhaps keep with a will) but there will be other stuff you probably don’t.
perhaps the most useful thing was actually to be able to get into emails, but with 2FA that could be a problem without the phone or some forward thinking. There are no doubt ways to get around these things but if they need a death certificate you could well be giving your loved ones a week or more of delay just at the wrong moment.
You never bought her a surprise present, or planned a surprise trip? Not all secrets have to be bad 🙂<br /><br />
just because my wife’s phone is sitting four feet away from me and I know the pin doesn’t mean I have any temptation to go and see what presents she is plotting for me. Partly, because it kind of ruins the surprise which is half the point of the gift, but more importantly because the trust we have after spending more than half our lives together means we both know we could go look at that shit but won’t. If I have bought her a surprise round the world trip and die before I give it to her - I’d quite like her to find out and use the tickets!
You’re telling me you never had a row with your partner and then went to the pub with a mate, let off steam and said a load of crap you didn’t mean? I don’t believe you.
don’t think I have, and none of my mates have done that to me either.
It’s never PIN Number
As we've already discussed before you waded in without reading.
Redundant Comment Syndrome comment?
I’ve unpicked the mess of a sudden and unexpected death.
I'm currently dealing with my mother's departure. Everything in on paper. Her phone is a Nokia something from 20 years ago.
Your phone content must be way more exciting than mine. There’s no ex partners, I’m not 15 so don’t do heart to hearts by text, and none of my friends think I could do better!
By SMS, no. By any other account imaginable which is accessible via your phone though... really?
she may well ask a friend or other relative to help work out
blah blah so document all those things. What's better, leaving an unlocked phone to your widow with an "off you go then love" and expecting them to do detective work, or just setting up a folder with everything they need to know?
don’t think I have, and none of my mates have done that to me either.
Well. Maybe they can't trust you because you're going to hand it all over to your partner.
Mrs F knows my PIN; I know her's. My only real issue is she'd have access to the emails for the bike/bike related receipts in my inbox. Now, if I wasn't already dead, that might cause some consternation as I may have been economical with the accuracy of the amount admitted to, rather than economical with the actual spend. However, as I'm dead, it matters little 😂
This reminds me that I need to update my spreadsheet on my usb stick that lives somewhere in the house.
My good lady has my phone details but most of my contacts are guys Ive worked with, a name (often miss spelt) with some notes about their appearance to jog my memory and their company name / job title.
you may be unusually organised, or unusually nonchalant about what happens when you are dead. I’ve unpicked the mess of a sudden and unexpected death. It’s not a fun process, but was a damn site easier with his phone to go through and call people.
Certainly not organised, no. But I have been through the process.
I'm mildly curious as to how many wading in on this thread haven't yet bothered to write a will.