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Rather than posting my view in the other thread, I thought it best ask what is the general consensus.
So, over-ruling higher body or crock of......?


 
Posted : 11/09/2011 10:27 pm
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I don't believe [i]in[/i] him.


 
Posted : 11/09/2011 10:27 pm
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Which one?


 
Posted : 11/09/2011 10:28 pm
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WTF are you on about?

I AM GOD.


 
Posted : 11/09/2011 10:29 pm
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No, but that doesn't mean he doesn't exist.


 
Posted : 11/09/2011 10:30 pm
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I believe your spelling is letting you down.


 
Posted : 11/09/2011 10:30 pm
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Yeah,

there are higher powers at play.


 
Posted : 11/09/2011 10:32 pm
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Creator God ... errmm ... delusional.

Gods - Yes & perhaps Vulcan (the one in Star Trek) too. :mrgreen:


 
Posted : 11/09/2011 10:34 pm
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Roughly what RichPenny says. To believe in one means you've got to deny the existence of lots of others, which is just a bit disrespectful of the others really.


 
Posted : 11/09/2011 10:34 pm
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Yes I really do.


 
Posted : 11/09/2011 10:35 pm
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Don't believe, too much evidence against. I find it quite annoying how someone can preach religion on the street and people say oh well everyone's entitled to their opinion (which they are), but if then if someone was on the street preaching about atheism then people generally say it's disrespectful or offensive...


 
Posted : 11/09/2011 10:35 pm
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How can you believe in God when Its just Dog spelt backwards. 🙄


 
Posted : 11/09/2011 10:36 pm
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I don't believe in god... but where all of this 'stuff' came from to make the Universe and to allow for evolution is somewhat of a mystery.


 
Posted : 11/09/2011 10:36 pm
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Personally, I think naming something [i]beyond our comprehension[/i] is a tad arrogant, but I certainly don't believe all this came from *nothing*.

I spose the simplest answer I can honestly give is 'yes', although my own beliefs are a lot more complex than that really.

too much evidence against

Interesting. Care to provide said 'evidence'?

Where's Woppit?


 
Posted : 11/09/2011 10:39 pm
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Dunno really, maybe sometimes, other times not so sure


 
Posted : 11/09/2011 10:40 pm
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Yep


 
Posted : 11/09/2011 10:42 pm
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How can you believe in God when Its just Dog spelt backwards.

I guess he must be alright then, unless he/she/it takes the occasional crap on trail centre paths. 👿


 
Posted : 11/09/2011 10:43 pm
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I quite like the idea of pandeism.
[url] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pandeism [/url]


 
Posted : 11/09/2011 10:46 pm
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My 'evidence' being evolution and common ancestors, thus destroying the argument of intelligent design. I agree the big bang is a singularity but even that doesn't conform to the story of the bible so therefore I cant believe in God as the rest doesn't hold up...


 
Posted : 11/09/2011 10:47 pm
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No.


 
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No


 
Posted : 11/09/2011 10:48 pm
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Personally, I think naming something beyond our comprehension is a tad arrogant, but I certainly don't believe all this came from *nothing*.

One creator or many gods?

Even my Jewish mate said if there was one creator god then s/he must be rather cruel.

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I agree the big bang is a singularity but even that doesn't conform to the story of the bible so therefore incant believe in God as the rest doesn't hold up...

Big bang is a singularity? I think we are jumping to the conclusion too soon. Doubt our tiny minds are really that good to know that ...


 
Posted : 11/09/2011 10:48 pm
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Chicken or Egg?


 
Posted : 11/09/2011 10:50 pm
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It does not answer the unfathomable. If god made me/us/it who/what made god. Something came from nothing and at least we are here and have fairly good understanding of how that came to be that is far more credible than religious accounts.
Obviously you cant prove a negative.


 
Posted : 11/09/2011 10:52 pm
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Chicken or Egg?

Is that important?

Free range or organic? I don't mind either 😆


 
Posted : 11/09/2011 10:52 pm
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No


 
Posted : 11/09/2011 10:55 pm
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Definitely no god(s), but definitely stuff we don't (yet) understand.

So, best get on with making the most of the time you've got (or at the very least, try not to complain about it too much without good reason).

Stuff happens.

Of course, as an atheist I DO understand that what I think is still as much just a BELIEF system as is Christianity or Islam or Hinduism or Physics or etc.

slainte 😀 rob


 
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Chicken or Egg?

Is that important?

Free range or organic? I don't mind either

It is very important... as Science can't tell us which came first... therefore where did the first 'common ancestor' come from...?

(I am a man of science, and I do not believe in god).


 
Posted : 11/09/2011 10:56 pm
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No. However, accepting that the big bang theory etc is right (and in an infinite universe, no way could be singular) the only question I have is how does anything exist? Not just humans, but the universe itself, and all it's component parts. That's a humdinger of a question for me


 
Posted : 11/09/2011 10:59 pm
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Pretending that we are in some way special is hugely arrogant. We're annoying, evil monkeys taking up a snapshot of existance on a bright little rock orbiting a small star at the edge of a small galaxy in a universe of infinate size.

SO I'd say no.

Plus, if there is a god, he's really messed things up. Not just 'oops I burned the lasagne' mess up but 'JESUS H CHRIST! - You created humans' sized cock up. What a knob!

If I met him I'd kick him in the chuff. And if Peter started, I'd chin him too.

Finally. If you do believe in god, how can you not spend your entire day grovelling around in the dirt worshipping him? I don't get it.

Either you believe in an almighty deity who can read your every thought and know your every feeling or you don't. The former could only have you prostrate for your entire life beating yourself silly with a cat O'nine tails for even looking sideways at a pretty girl. Unless of course you're choosing which bits you believe in. God can see that. And he will judge you, probably worse than the non-believers.


 
Posted : 11/09/2011 11:00 pm
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[b][i]I[/i][/b] believe that there was something more significant work in the creation of the universe than simply a vaguely explained explosion of sorts.

and I find that the suggestion that all life as we know it came from amoeba or other single-celled organisms via the rather 'random' process of evolution is somewhat demeaning and quite frankly ludicrous...

I [i]cannot[/i] believe in something so 'incidental'...

I have plenty of time and patience to discuss this matter so feel free to contratict me 8)


 
Posted : 11/09/2011 11:01 pm
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I couldn't care less if there's a god or not tbh. I'll just go on living my life as I've only got a finite amount of time to use, and sitting on my arse in a cold church seems an awful waste.

Or, to put it more succinctly... No.


 
Posted : 11/09/2011 11:03 pm
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My 'evidence' being evolution and common ancestors, thus destroying the argument of intelligent design.

I'm not a Christian. Intelligent Design is therefore irrelevant to me, although I do find it interesting, as I do all sorts of theories as to How and Why.

And evolutionary theory is just one tiny part of Humanity's attempts to understand stuff. Not the be all and end all.

In fact you jolly well have not actually disproved the existence of God at all, just postulated your own ideas rather than actual hard evidence.

So, have you actually got any real solid irrefutable evidence that God does not exist then?


 
Posted : 11/09/2011 11:03 pm
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Any evidence that s/he (God) does exist......?


 
Posted : 11/09/2011 11:05 pm
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It is very important... as Science can't tell us which came first... therefore where did the first 'common ancestor' come from...?

(I am a man of science, and I do not believe in god).

How does knowing the 'common ancestor' of chicken important to our life?

Man of science ... hmmm ... to answer your question ... even until your turn carbon you will never find that answer of Chicken or Egg.


 
Posted : 11/09/2011 11:06 pm
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yes


 
Posted : 11/09/2011 11:07 pm
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I'm agnostic, I don't think the existence (or otherwise) of god is knowable. Atheism is just another belief system, whatever your view on the probability of god.


 
Posted : 11/09/2011 11:08 pm
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I believe in God.

Like a lot of things - conscience, guilt, love, fear etc. They all clearly exist - but only inside your head.


 
Posted : 11/09/2011 11:09 pm
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You can't easily prove a negative. You can usually prove a positive though, which we as the human race have singularly failed to do in th case of god(s). So for me, it's a no.


 
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It is very important... as Science can't tell us which came first... therefore where did the first 'common ancestor' come from...?

(I am a man of science, and I do not believe in god).

How does knowing the 'common ancestor' of chicken important to our life?

Man of science ... hmmm ... to answer your question ... even until your turn carbon you will never find that answer of Chicken or Egg.

I think you may* be missing my point.

I was not trying to prove or disprove the existence of god, quite the contrary in fact... I was implying that science does not have all the answers, and it is unlikely it ever will... humans will kill each other well before then.

Religion and/or greed will see to my latter point.

Why is the chicken important? If you go far enough back... to the 'primordial soup' - the synthesised amino acids (from water, carbon dioxide, methane, hydrogen and ammonia) by the suns ultraviolet radiation, which created the first replicating chains of molecules... which would have been the 'common ancestors' to both the chicken and the human.

*if I am wrong I apologise


 
Posted : 11/09/2011 11:17 pm
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I believe, Don Simon got fed up with him sh1tting all over the trail at trail centres. [possibly already been done]


 
Posted : 11/09/2011 11:19 pm
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No, I don't believe in any God or Gods. The idea of a higher power sounds entirely ridiculous to me and beyond stating my belief I have no interest in entering into a pointless discussion with people who believe in anything based purely on faith.

P.S. My disbelief in God(s) does not automatically make me morally bankrupt and an agent of Satan as has been previously suggested by a two believers that arrived on my doorstep with the intention of spreading the word.


 
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yes

You called that music?

This is music ... and yes they can dance and are brilliant unlike those techno shite.


 
Posted : 11/09/2011 11:19 pm
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No. Its ridiculous to think otherwise.


 
Posted : 11/09/2011 11:20 pm
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Any evidence that s/he (God) does exist......?

Tum tee tum tee tum....in your own time. Anybody ?


 
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